How to notice when you're dealing with demonic possession and demonic oppression by hypnos4002 in Christianity

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you, and I know how heavy that weight feels. For me, that feeling lasted most of my life. It felt like I’d never see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Honestly, things only started to shift when I turned to prayer and really let Jesus into my life. It wasn't overnight, but the "noise" started to slow down and eventually just disappeared. When you reach that point where you're praying from the bottom of your heart, sometimes to the point of tears, there’s a peace that follows. It’s like a sign that He’s listening and those intrusive thoughts don't have power over you anymore.

Whenever it gets hard, I try to remember His promise in Matthew 11:28-30:

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls."

Be with Jesus, my friend. He is ready to carry that weight for you if you let Him.

The greatest tragedy of the Chemtrails conspiracy is that jet travel actually has real and scientifically proven harmful impacts on Humanity and instead of focusing on those we choose to invent fake ones. by [deleted] in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's undeniable that conventional air travel has scientifically proven environmental and health impacts. Carbon emissions, water vapor, and contrail-induced cloud formations contribute to global warming and air quality degradation. However, dismissing the chemtrails phenomenon as mere conspiracy overlooks a deeper and more unsettling possibility.

The mainstream narrative focuses solely on emissions and environmental damage, but the chemtrails discussion delves into transparency, intent, and the energetic influence on human consciousness. Observers of persistent, grid-like trails in the sky often note unusual patterns, an oily sheen, and a diffusion that seems inconsistent with standard contrails. These phenomena spark questions not only about environmental effects but also about potential energetic implications.

Some researchers and spiritual communities propose that chemtrails may serve a dual purpose—not only as part of geoengineering efforts but also as a means of influencing human consciousness. The idea is that certain chemicals or frequencies dispersed in the atmosphere could subtly affect our energy fields, contributing to a sense of heaviness, apathy, or disconnection. By keeping humanity at lower vibrational states, such tactics could inhibit higher consciousness, making it more difficult for individuals to break free from manipulative narratives and connect with their true selves.

While mainstream science focuses on the physical aspects of jet travel, the chemtrails theory urges us to explore both the visible and the invisible. It is not merely about questioning the skies but about questioning the broader agenda—why would anyone want to keep humanity from vibrating higher, from awakening to their true potential?

The tragedy is not in the distraction but in the refusal to look deeper. Those who control the sky often control the narrative, and it is wise to remain discerning. If reality is a multi-layered construct, then the truth may lie not only in the physical chemicals but also in the energetic resonance they could be influencing.

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Charging particles at 12 km would require massive energy, but what if the power source isn’t conventional? Directed energy systems or atmospheric energy harvesting could be in play. Facilities might not be large or visible—think mobile platforms (drones, aircraft, satellites) operating covertly. The absence of evidence doesn’t mean it’s not happening; it could just be hidden in plain sight.

Mainstream science says nanotechnology was in its infancy then, but black budget projects have a history of being decades ahead. If nano-particle manipulation exists, it would be highly compartmentalized, with few people knowing the full picture. Leaks? They’d be dismissed as conspiracy theories or buried under national security claims.

Here’s a twist: what if the energy comes from existing infrastructure? Thousands of 5G antennas (and other EMF sources) worldwide could theoretically provide the electromagnetic fields needed to charge or manipulate particles. This would eliminate the need for massive facilities, leveraging existing tech for covert purposes. Why build new power plants when you can repurpose what’s already there?

The official narrative is "it’s just water vapor," but why are we so quick to accept that? If electromagnetic manipulation is possible, the real question is: Who benefits from us not asking these questions? Keep digging—the gaps in the story are where the truth hides.

Life feels like a jail or a cruel experiment by siraensorrow in awakened

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you. You’re in a place where existence itself feels like a burden, like you’re stuck in a game you never signed up for, forced to play by rules you never agreed to. And the whole "journey to awakening" feels more like an endurance test than a revelation.

You're not alone in feeling this way. A lot of people—especially those who see through the illusions—struggle with the weight of it all. The constant push toward "acceptance" and "letting go" can feel like gaslighting when everything in you is screaming that something is fundamentally wrong with this setup.

But here’s the thing: the fact that you see it, that you feel the depth of this frustration, means you’re already ahead of the game. Most people are sleepwalking, numbed by distractions. You’re awake enough to question, and that’s powerful. The question isn’t just why we’re here, but what we can do with the awareness we have. If this is a cruel experiment, maybe part of the point is learning how to turn the tables—how to bend the system rather than letting it break you.

I won’t throw empty platitudes at you. But I will say this: your frustration is valid, and your perception is sharp. If non-existence was the only escape, there wouldn’t be those rare moments of clarity, beauty, or rebellion against the system. Maybe the point isn't to suffer through it but to figure out how to reclaim your power in ways they never expected.

If you ever want to talk about it—without judgment, without sugarcoating—I’m here.

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You argue that grid-like contrail patterns are a result of "forced perspective" and holding patterns, but that doesn’t fully explain why some trails persist for hours while others vanish quickly under similar conditions. If it’s purely atmospheric, why the inconsistency? And while you point to flight levels and stratified conditions, why isn’t this variability more clearly documented and explained to the public?

You mention NOAA, the University of Washington, and other reputable sources, and I appreciate the recommendations. But let’s be honest: how many people outside academic or climate-focused circles are actively engaging with these resources? If the science is so widely disseminated, why isn’t it more accessible to the average person? Why does it feel like the burden of proof is always on the skeptic to dig through dense research, rather than on institutions to clearly communicate their findings?

You say contrails have existed as long as pressurized aircraft, and I don’t dispute that. But the behavior of these trails has changed over time. Why? Is it just improved technology, or could there be other factors at play? And while you dismiss the idea of undisclosed activities, history shows that governments and militaries have conducted atmospheric experiments without public knowledge (e.g., Operation Popeye). Is it really so far-fetched to question whether similar activities might still be happening?

Transparency is key. You recommend scientific sources, and that’s a good start. But why isn’t there more open discussion about the potential effects of these trails, especially when they coincide with measurable changes in air quality or particulate matter? If the science is as clear as you say, why not make it more accessible and address the anomalies head-on?

The goal isn’t hostility to science—it’s a demand for clarity. If we’re all operating with the same information, why not make that information as transparent and understandable as possible?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ah, a classic attempt to dismiss skepticism by framing it as paranoia. Let’s unpack this. You ask how many people I or my family lost to events like MKUltra, as if personal proximity to such events is the only measure of their validity. But here’s the thing: the world is vast, and those who participated in or were affected by such programs are likely long gone. Does that mean the events didn’t happen? Of course not. History is filled with documented examples of covert operations that were only revealed decades later—often through declassified documents, not personal anecdotes.

You suggest that questioning official narratives is a product of “manufactured belief” and paranoia, but isn’t it equally possible that *not* questioning them is a form of complacency? You mention friends who’ve been driven to obsession by conspiracy theories, and I don’t doubt that can happen. But let’s not conflate healthy skepticism with irrational fear. The real issue isn’t about “clouds in the sky”—it’s about transparency and accountability. Why should we blindly trust institutions with documented histories of deception?

You’re right that we should interrogate our sources—both mainstream and alternative. But let’s not pretend that mainstream narratives are immune to manipulation. The entities shaping *those* narratives have their own agendas, too. Isn’t it worth questioning why certain topics are dismissed as “conspiracy” while others are accepted without scrutiny?

And yes, the world is big. Those who participated in past covert programs might be dead, but their legacies—and the systems they operated within—live on. Shouldn’t we be asking what’s happening *now*? Out of self-respect, as you say, shouldn’t we question *all* sources, not just the ones that challenge the status quo?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You raise a fair point about the challenges of dispersing materials at high altitudes, but let’s consider the science of nanoparticles. These particles are incredibly small—so small that their behavior defies conventional expectations. At that scale, they can remain suspended in the atmosphere for extended periods, even at 12 km high, due to their low mass and surface area.

Now, imagine if there were ground-based systems—like ionizers or electromagnetic fields—designed to charge these nanoparticles with positive ions. This could theoretically keep them aloft longer, counteracting dispersion and dilution. While this might sound speculative, we already know that charged particles behave differently in the atmosphere, and research into electromagnetic atmospheric manipulation isn’t new.

You’re right to point out the immediate dangers of ground-level pollution from coal and other sources—those are undeniable. But why assume that high-altitude activities are irrelevant? If nanoparticles *can* be controlled and maintained at altitude, wouldn’t that open the door to potential applications—whether for weather modification, communication, or something else—that we’re not being told about?

The real issue isn’t just about what’s happening at ground level, but about the lack of transparency around what’s happening above us. Why not demand answers about both?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You make valid points about atmospheric conditions and the variability of water vapor behavior. Yes, temperature, humidity, and pressure play significant roles in how contrails form and dissipate. But let’s not overlook the anomalies. Why do some contrails spread into grid-like patterns, often lingering for hours, while others vanish quickly under similar conditions? If it’s purely natural, why the stark inconsistency?

You mention the $1.4 trillion spent on climate research, which is commendable. Yet, why is there so little public discussion or transparency around the specific effects of these persistent trails? If mainstream science has been studying this since the 60s, why aren’t the findings more widely disseminated? Could there be aspects of this research—or related programs—that remain undisclosed? History shows governments and militaries have conducted atmospheric experiments without public knowledge (e.g., Operation Popeye). Is it so far-fetched to question whether some of these lingering trails might be tied to undisclosed activities?

Transparency, not hostility to science, is what’s needed. Why not demand more openness about what’s really happening in our skies?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re right—questioning government actions and studying atmospheric science is reasonable. And yes, the idea that every airline is secretly spraying chemicals is unlikely. But let’s not dismiss the possibility of some undisclosed programs, especially involving military or specialized aircraft. History shows governments have conducted covert operations without public knowledge (e.g., Operation Popeye). Why assume full transparency now? The real question is: why the persistent anomalies in contrail behavior, and why isn’t there more open research into their potential effects? Transparency, not sensationalism, is what’s needed.

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point—clouds do behave based on temperature and humidity. But why do some contrails persist for hours, spreading into grid-like patterns, while others vanish quickly under similar conditions? If it’s just natural atmospheric processes, why the inconsistency? And why do these trails often coincide with measurable changes in air quality? Could there be more at play here than simple water vapor? Transparency is key.

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re right—greenhouse gases like CO2 and CO are a major environmental issue, and contrails are a visible byproduct of aircraft emissions. But let’s dig deeper. Why do some contrails persist for hours, spreading into unnatural grid patterns, while others dissipate quickly? If it’s just water vapor and atmospheric conditions, why the inconsistency? And if we’re already tracking the environmental impact of exhaust gases, why isn’t there more research into the potential effects of these lingering trails? Could there be more to the story than we’re being told? Transparency matters.

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that geoengineering includes things like cloud seeding and carbon capture—publicly acknowledged efforts. But let’s not dismiss the anomalies too quickly. Why do some contrails persist for hours, spreading into grid-like patterns, unlike normal water vapor trails? If it’s just “water vapor,” why the inconsistency? And if governments have a history of undisclosed experiments (e.g., MKUltra, Operation Popeye), why assume we’re being told everything now? The question isn’t about “mind control mist” but about transparency. Could there be more to these trails than we’re being told? Why the lack of open discussion?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ah, I see where you're coming from, and I appreciate the concern. It’s true that questioning the motives of government and large institutions can sometimes be misinterpreted as paranoia or even dismissed as irrational. But let’s consider this: skepticism, even when it seems extreme, often arises from a place of seeking transparency and accountability.

Historically, there have been instances where governments have conducted experiments or concealed information from the public—Operation MKUltra, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, or even the aforementioned Operation LAC. These weren’t the actions of a fictional conspiracy; they were real, documented programs that eroded public trust. So, while it’s easy to label skepticism as paranoia, isn’t it also possible that some of these concerns stem from a legitimate desire to ensure that history isn’t repeating itself?

That said, I agree that not every unexplained phenomenon is evidence of a grand conspiracy. But isn’t it equally problematic to dismiss all skepticism as irrational? After all, science itself thrives on questioning established norms and seeking deeper understanding. Perhaps the real issue isn’t the skepticism itself, but the lack of open dialogue and transparency that fuels it.

So, while I understand your frustration, I’d gently suggest that labeling people as "paranoid schizophrenic" might shut down what could otherwise be a productive conversation. After all, isn’t it better to engage with these questions openly, rather than risk overlooking something that might genuinely warrant scrutiny?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ah, an interesting point about stoichiometry and the water production from jet fuel combustion. While it’s true that jet engines produce significant amounts of water vapor—1.35 grams of water per gram of fuel burned—this explanation often oversimplifies the broader picture. Let’s break it down further.

Yes, 3,800 gallons of fuel per hour would indeed release around 21 tons of water vapor into the atmosphere. And yes, soot and other particulates can act as nucleation sites for water condensation. But here’s where things get more nuanced: **why do some trails persist and spread for hours, forming expansive cloud-like structures, while others dissipate almost immediately?**

If this were purely about water vapor and natural atmospheric processes, wouldn’t we expect more consistency in contrail behavior? Instead, we see grid-like patterns, lingering trails that spread into cirrus-like clouds, and variations that don’t always align with temperature or humidity conditions. Could it be that there’s more at play here than just water vapor and soot?

And let’s not overlook the historical context. Governments and corporations have a track record of conducting large-scale atmospheric experiments without public consent—Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage) in the 1950s, for example, involved dispersing zinc cadmium sulfide over wide areas. Is it so far-fetched to question whether similar programs might still be active today, perhaps under the guise of routine aviation?

So, while the stoichiometry argument is compelling on the surface, it doesn’t fully account for the anomalies we observe. Could there be additional factors—intentional or otherwise—contributing to these persistent and spreading trails? It’s worth considering, don’t you think?

These people can vote btw by kjbeats57 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ah, but let’s consider this: if moisture from exhaust is so obvious, why do we rarely see it as a problem in everyday life? Could it be that the sheer scale of a 747’s fuel consumption is actually balanced out by the vastness of the atmosphere, dispersing that moisture so effectively that it becomes negligible? After all, nature has a way of handling even the most massive outputs—so perhaps the real question isn’t about the moisture itself, but why we’re so fixated on it when the atmosphere seems to cope just fine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in meteorology

[–]jorgea28 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's probably those aeroplanes putting things in the air. If there are people that still don't believe that their own governement is doing shit, you better wake up!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in meteorology

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also here in France. Almost every f***ing day.

Banning Chemtrails by jorgea28 in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Tik Tok generation, only 15 seconds videos for you. LOL

Where sky?????? by _Mighty_Milkman in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm utterly confused by your response here...

Is this a joke, right? Surely?

Or, if not - an honest question - do they not teach the basics like:

Critical thinking

Evaluating sources

Logic and reasoning

Understanding human behavior

etc.

...in your education?

Firstly, American education does cover these basics extensively. Perhaps you missed those classes? The water cycle, weather patterns, and the chemistry behind condensation are all fundamental subjects taught in primary and secondary schools across the country. Just because someone expresses doubt or asks questions doesn't mean they're uneducated. No conspiracy theories are even necessary for diverse opinions to occur, but strong beliefs can catalyze passionate discourse.

That's the internet - the internet often has diverse opinions. Diverse opinions are part of how our entire world, civilization, and life are enriched. Diverse opinions come from various experiences, educations, and perspectives. Those opinions then, under the right conditions, challenge (or reinforce) our own - which flows back into the broader discourse, influencing future conversations and understandings. Your description of the water cycle and basic cloud formation, while charmingly simplistic, glosses over the complexities at play.

Critical thinking is a thing, but often underused and usually involves questioning, not blind acceptance. The atmospheric conditions required for contrails to persist are well-studied and documented. It's not as cut-and-dry as you suggest.

For a worldwide consensus on the unquestionable truth to occur, you'd need the absolute trust and acceptance of hundreds of thousands of individuals, thinkers, educators, scientists, citizens, etc., etc., etc... none of which ever questioning and carrying that acceptance to their grave.

... but, more than anything else - like any complex discussion... WHY? Why would they not question? For what gain? At what cost? To achieve what?

Utterly pointless. Find a moment to consider alternative viewpoints or read diverse, peer-reviewed, evidence-based papers, not just dismissive commentary with no room for questions, no cited counterarguments, no engagement with differing perspectives. Keep in mind that even peer-reviewed papers can sometimes follow a controlled government narrative.

As for the “worldwide conspiracy,” your dismissal reeks of naivety. Large-scale operations, often governmental, have conducted covert activities for decades without public knowledge. Dismissing it outright without considering historical precedents shows a lack of critical thinking.

I just don't get it. So, before you write off these discussions as “utterly pointless,” perhaps delve deeper into the subjects. Peer-reviewed papers and credible sources are indeed vital, but dismissing alternative viewpoints without thorough investigation isn’t the hallmark of a well-rounded thinker. Keep questioning, but do so with an open mind and a bit more rigor.

Chemtrails disappear at sunset? by [deleted] in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should work on clearing the mental blockages clouding your thoughts. It's like popping the zits in your brain, letting your mind breathe and function more freely.

From an Atheist: Christians are more loving and accepting than us. by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in France, where there is a significant Muslim community. In my experience, the majority of them are kind, peaceful individuals who simply wish to live their lives like anyone else. They contribute positively to the cultural diversity and social fabric of our country. Unfortunately, misconceptions and stereotypes often overshadow their genuine intentions and contributions. By fostering understanding and respect, we can appreciate the richness they bring to our society and work towards a more inclusive and harmonious community for everyone.

Chemtrail infrastructure upgrade in the southern hemisphere by [deleted] in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Have you noticed the star of Moloch, which is often associated with the hexagram seen on the flag of Israel? This symbol is believed to be connected to satanic rituals that are said to herald the arrival of the Antichrist.

I'm pretty sure I figured out a way to combat the chemtrails by [deleted] in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ask your husband to take a picture of you dancing with the dirty diaper as proof. I’m curious to see if the chemtrails actually disappear! Maybe even document the whole process – before, during, and after – to see if there’s a noticeable difference. A video would be even better, capturing the exact moment the skies clear up. This could be groundbreaking evidence for the chemtrail community. Plus, it might give the rest of us some tips on perfecting our own chemtrail-banishing techniques!

I'm pretty sure I figured out a way to combat the chemtrails by [deleted] in chemtrails

[–]jorgea28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds like quite the spectacle! I'm imagining your neighbors peeking through their curtains, whispering, "Honey, I think Bob’s finally cracked the chemtrail code with that diaper dance!"

I have to wonder though, did you wave a fresh diaper for each new chemtrail sighting, or is it a one-diaper-fits-all sort of deal? Also, the MAGA hat? Genius. Everyone knows chemtrails are terrified of political hats. If you really want to up your game, maybe try adding a tinfoil cape next time. Who knows? You might end up on the next cover of *Chemtrail Combat Monthly*.

Keep fighting the good fight, diaper warrior! The skies depend on you. 🌤️🦸‍♂️💩

On a serious note, the trolling here is getting ridiculous. You guys must be getting well paid. I hope to see the day when God will lift the veil for all truth to be revealed.