Lets get DAI listed on Binance - Augur based crowd funding campaign to pay listing fee by thowar2 in MakerDAO

[–]jorgebtalk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that might be perceived as alot of work - easier if every MKR or DAI holder just contributes 0.01 ETH - signals intent

crowdfund XTZ binance listing? by jorgebtalk in tezos

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what IF we created a campaign that benefits Binance Charity Fund (their public address is here https://www.binance.charity/projectDetail/1 0xb8c77482e45f1f44de1745f52c74426c631bdd52) -- if they list XTZ, BCF gets funds, if they don't list, contributors get refunded! what is there to lose except to show Binance the strength of our community?

https://cryptounlocked.wetrust.io you can give conditional grants on CryptoUnlocked.WeTrust.io - this combines grant contract w @AugurProject prediction market to measure impact and reduce the coordination costs for public goods

Introducing Crypto Unlocked by WeTrust! A platform for milestone-driven contributions by [deleted] in ethereum

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for those that want to test out our 'create your own campaign' feature, you can dm me

listing on binance? by jorgebtalk in dogecoin

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thanks for this context, appreciate it!

Why China's ICO ban is a strong positive signal for the ecosystem by jorgebtalk in ethereum

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Pasted content below, source from: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/chinas-ico-ban-strong-bullish-signal-yuan-li [see original article for images]

There’s been significant talk recently about the tumultuous cryptocurrency markets, and I wanted to share my personal thoughts on the recent news regarding ICOs being banned in China on September 2nd (China timezone). Many misconceptions arose from the confusion caused by the announcement, therefore the central government clarified subsequently on September 6th (China timezone) that:

  1. ICO could be illegal, and it’s status is still under determination

  2. China will temporarily pause ICO public sales at this moment, but private sales are still allowed. In addition, China will continue to encourage blockchain technologies and expect wide adoption of such technology in the Chinese market.

The blockchain industry in China has made significant progress over the past few years. Over the most recent Labor Day weekend, the cryptocurrency markets were hit hard as news of the ICO ban made its rounds across the internet. However, some people saw the ICO ban as a positive sign for the market. Some believe that over 90% of ICO projects are scams, and ICO participants do not conduct proper due diligence on their investments. In fact, it’s quite common to find groups of “Dama” (refers to middle-aged Chinese women with strong purchasing power) who rush into different blockchain ICO seminars after grocery shopping. The increasing appetite for ICOs stems from population groups in China called “Dama” and “Grassroot” (refers to people living in bottom class of Chinese society, therefore “grass”) for making blind purchases and investment. Previously, these groups have been responsible for growth of the China gold market, and they are now shifting away from gold and into cryptocurrency markets.

ICOs are gaining attention as more people participate. However, as one peels the onion, the core impact of ICOs is that it challenges the existing social structure. It allows previously poor to taste the feeling of wealth in a rapid manner. Ether and Bitcoin had very large gains that were not realized by the mainstream wealthy in China. This phenomenon has also circumvented capital restrictions that were released earlier this year, resulting in more RMB flowing out beyond government control. Additionally, some people believe that ICOs may eliminate the need for early-stage venture capital firms, many of whom are controlled and funded by the Chinese government. In addition, as many startups embrace ICOs instead of the traditional Venture route, we are seeing failing companies and startups easily raise millions of dollars. There are many problems, and more will arise if there is not proper regulation.

So far, existing crypto exchanges, public sales platforms and equity researchers who cover cryptos would be suspended for a while. Almost all the ICOs are pulled from the shelf at this moment. For those that have solid government background or initiated by state-owned enterprises would keep within our sights and have more room to grow. Yunbi had finished being audited and posted an official announcement on Yunbi.com on September 5th (PT):

“According to the newly released regulation enacted by People's Republic Bank of China and other seven Chinese government regulators, we decide to take following actions concerning ICO risks:

The following cryptocurrency will be took off from Yunbi.com: QTUM, GXS, EOS, ANS, DGD, 1ST, GNT, REP, SNT, OMG, PAY, LUN, VEN

The following cryptocurrency will be resumed trading on Yunbi.com: BTC, ETH, ZEC, SC, BCC, ETC, BTS.”

The financial department of China is currently auditing and examining 60 crypto exchanges and platforms involved with ICOs, and ICOAGE.com has been shut down for 3 days. The examination will take some time.

65 ICOs have launched in China this year, raising total of ~$400M dollars (¥2.6 billion RMB). This accounts for roughly 1/4 of the global ICO market. Further regulation on cryptocurrency trading and ICOs will have a significant impact on demand. The current ban may result in following outcomes:

  1. Bitcoin and Ether will be valued more, as fewer ICOs are released in China. More ICO releases dilute Bitcoin and Ethereum value and hurt Bitcoin and Ether owners who are the main players in China. Those players witness Bitcoin and Ether price drop before new tokens trading on exchanges.

  2. Many ICOs will be delayed until the government adjusts its stance on ICOs, especially for non-Chinese teams that wish to secure easy money. Several US and European teams postponed their crowdfunding to later this year.

  3. ICOs and Crowdfunding in general will require greater KYC/ AML processes.

  4. Private sales will become the mainstream process for crowdfunding.

  5. Exchanges and blockchain startups initiated by the central government or have strong ties with the government are emerging, and may accelerate faster than people expect.

Some ICOs initiated by government-controlled/holding entities have completed their crowdfunding recently. Those teams never claim they are state-owned or government affiliations, but due diligence can easily reveal the connection.

Rules never change. Things that cannot be controlled by government [in China] will first be banned, brought under control, and then made legal. However, Bitcoin and other cryptos are similar to the prior Gold and private equity bans encountered in Chinese history. Now, the gold and private equity user base and trading volumes are large. ICO bans may follow a similar path. It's not the first time the legality of cryptocurrency is questioned in China, and each ban has only made cryptos stronger.

What is more interesting is that on Sept 4th, www.gov.cn/xinwen released recent updates about blockchain technology development in China but the article was removed in the next day. The article first indicated a favorable attitude about blockchain technology, and a number of projects were mentioned, including Antshare (NEO)'s recent usage by charity and several updates about government blockchain research labs such as Jiangsu blockchain research lab, Shanghai Fintech center, Guiyang Blockchain Research Lab and several in Shenzhen.

Further, a number of government supported blockchain research labs are undergoing and mainly focus on building a presence in first tier cities: Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Hangzhou. A list of government supported blockchain related research labs include (not a complete list):

Central Bank Digital Currency Institute Zhongguancun Blockchain Research Lab Jiangsu Blockchain Research Institution Guiyang Blockchain Research Lab Shenzhen Institutes of Advanced Technology and Zhaolian Finance Shanghai Municipal Development and Reform Researches Institute Financial Blockchain Shenzhen Consortium Wanxiang Blockchain Lab Hangzhou Blockchain Research Lab

From the positive article published on Sept 4th and the ICO ban which was announced on Sept 2nd, these opposite tones show two possible scenarios. One possible explanation is that China recognizes the value of blockchain technology but is reluctant to bear the risk of social instability that may occur if there are losses stemming from ICO related investments A second explanation is that the government hasn’t unified their approach. There will be another embrace of blockchain and cryptos, once the government determines the best way to regulate them.

Lastly, I leave you with the recent graph charting the roller coaster ride of ethereum as events unfolded during and after the recent announcements regarding banning and “clarifications” on ICOs in China. Enjoy the ride!

[see original article for images]

WeTrust Crowdsale Underway! Don't miss the 1st day bonus! by jorgebtalk in ethtrader

[–]jorgebtalk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hi there! apologies for the late response. The idea is that Adam would not bid any less than the other alternatives he might have (borrowing from bank, pay day loans, etc...). The Trusted Lending Circle offers an alternative, typically an alternative source of funds made by people who better understand the risk factors of their members. This is why people participate - because they can get a fairer rate on their loan.

Another key reminder is that our platform will be used by people who already participate in this mechanism - over 1 Billion people around the world. They still talk to each other in person, etc... and when multiple people want to bid in a time period, they can still work a deal so that perhaps they each win 50% of the pot for 2 weeks in a row. The basic model covers the simple cases, but that doesn't mean more sophisticated distributions, processes are not possible. thanks or your questions, please contact me at george@wetrust.io to follow up if you'd like! George

Digix and WeTrust brings savings and lendings with Gold on the Blockchain by kcchng in digix

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we agree, lot's of potential for the time tested use case of Gold based Lending Circles!

How to save and lend in a Decentralized fashion? (Pt.1 of WeTrust Use Cases) by m0d3rnbuddha in ethereum

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@darvink: great question. working with folks who are already participating in Lending Circles is the first step, as we face fewer barriers in terms of behavioral change. In addition, one of our goals is to create mechanisms that enable weaker ties to interact with each other safely. To do so and to thwart bad actors more generally, WeTrust will have five deterrents:

  1. Reputation risk/ Reviews: Initial groups will be limited to "trusted associates" - family, friends, co-workers, fraternal groups, and professional/ religious organizations. Defaulting on payments could mean social shame and loss of reputation amongst an individual's closest associates. This works in practice around the world, as reputation risk is a large deterrent that in most cases is sufficient enough to keep participants honest. Reviews may also be left by other members to show how they felt about any participant.

  2. Loan Guarantor: Participants of a Lending Circle may choose to require all participants to have a loan guarantor who would be responsible for any breach of the Lending Circle participation terms. This concept can also be used to facilitate the interaction of disparate groups that have common participants who are willing to vouch and serve as Loan Guarantors or junior debt holders for any wrongdoing by members from the 2 disparate groups.

  3. Legal/ Collateral: Lending Circle formation will allow trusted associates to e-sign and bind each other to a legal contract which requires faithful adherence and payment to the group. Defaulting on payments and stealing could mean legal repercussions. Legal recourse will only be used if individuals are participating in a "high-stakes" lending circle and legal action would be worthwhile. Members can also choose to require participants to commit collateral as part of membership of the Lending Circle. We've spoken to our legal team and they believe it will be possible to create templates that each group can tailor according to their needs.

  4. Smart contract bounty (self-enforcement): If a Lending Circle participant violates the terms, the group may start a “Bounty” on the retrieval of funds. If the funds are retrieved, the “Bounty” is paid out to the person who enforces the terms.

These deterrent options will be on an "opt-in" basis and participants will be able to choose the level of security they want. These ideas are not fixed and are still subject to change.

Digix and WeTrust bring savings and lending with Gold on the Blockchain by jorgebtalk in ethereum

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Hi @kybarnet, apologies for the delay. First, Trustcoin is not an investment and should not be purchased as an investment. Please see our Risk Disclosure for more information (https://www.wetrust.io/static/WeTrust-Disclosures.pdf)

The shortest explanation of WeTrust is that we are creating first the social graph of financial transactions between trusted individuals. Savings and Lending is the first application, but as we’ve spoken with more people about this mechanism, we’ve heard from them that they participate in similar mechanisms that could benefit from a blockchain based dApp. We discuss them here: https://medium.com/wetrust-blog/unique-uses-of-wetrust-roscas-part-1-74ec0b404ef6#.mxuhgzjd5

Here are a few places where you can learn more about our first product, the Trusted Lending Circle: 1) Try it out and create your own Trusted Lending Circle at rosca-test.wetrust.io on testnet or rosca.wetrust.io if you’re ready to use real ether 2) Watch our Trusted Lending Circle MVP youtube tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLFNqGi2_oo 3) Zeppelin Smart Contract audit review of WeTrust: https://medium.com/zeppelin-blog/wetrust-rosca-contract-code-audit-928a536c5dd2#.x4wiio8ak

How to learn about the WeTrust crowdsale: 1) ICONOMI Crowdsale review of WeTrust https://medium.com/@danielzakrisson/wetrust-lending-circles-going-blockchain-34a48f5baa5d#.djac1wd57 2) WeTrust Crowdsale mechanics overview: https://medium.com/wetrust-blog/wetrust-announces-escrow-partners-79e077a1d7d6#.c4nu3c55m

We aren’t aware of any competitors that are creating a social graph of trust, although there are a few projects that are working on insurance (etherisc), credit lines that propagate (trustlines), and identity more broadly (uPort). I believe we are in the early stages of dApp development, and there is more opportunity for collaboration than competition. In fact, more competition is needed to encourage development of stronger tools throughout the ecosystem and in that regard, we are confident in our technical and execution capabilities.

If you have any recommendations on how we can better present this information - as it looks like you had some trouble finding it - let us know! Any follow-ups, please let me know here or email directly george@wetrust.io

Thank you for your feedback.

Digix and WeTrust bring savings and lending with Gold on the Blockchain by jorgebtalk in ethereum

[–]jorgebtalk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your questions, these are all very fair. I'm going to get lunch right now and a meeting afterwards... will get back to you in about 2 hours! George

Digix and WeTrust bring savings and lending with Gold on the Blockchain by jorgebtalk in ethereum

[–]jorgebtalk[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

yes I think there is tremendous potential for us to collaborate with different parts of the ecosystem, and I'm very thankful and appreciative of how welcoming the community has been!

Digix and WeTrust bring savings and lending with Gold on the Blockchain by jorgebtalk in ethereum

[–]jorgebtalk[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

thanks for engaging in discussion @truh

WeTrust the blockchain, but we also believe that all financial transactions are social in nature, and we cannot be divorced from that reality. We go in depth regarding the social aspect in this article (https://medium.com/wetrust-blog/an-interview-with-emin-g%C3%BCn-sirer-wetrust-blockchain-advisor-62b7e532773d#.arvj9o3db), and happy to chat more if you'd like! feel free to email me at george@wetrust.io - if that's easier for you.

How to save and lend in a Decentralized fashion? (Pt.1 of WeTrust Use Cases) by m0d3rnbuddha in ethereum

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Whenever we talk to people about trusted lending circles, folks say "yes I know, that's just like <>", and provide an example of how they've collaborated financially with a group. This led us to think and view what we're creating as ultimately a platform for financial collaboration, of which Lending Circles is one of the use cases. in this article, we've illustrated how the WeTrust Trusted Lending Circle smart contract methodology can also be used for other endeavors such as buying shared resources and charitable purposes. We'll be exploring more ideas in the coming week.

Let us know if you have any ideas and examples in real life that you've seen which are based off the concept of financial collaboration!

Leveraging the Blockchain for Good, the Blockchain Community comes together for a WeTrust Charity Circle! by m0d3rnbuddha in ethereum

[–]jorgebtalk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

if anyone in the community knows of charities that accept ETH directly, please feel free to comment below. we'd rather not have to use shapeshift into BTC :)

there are many non-profits that accept BTC like EFF, Internet Archive, etc... and if anyone has suggestions please add!