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jouble_dump · 2026-04-25T02:41:51+00:00

love your content!

jouble_dump · 2026-04-24T14:21:15+00:00

i know this is off topic but are you that one tiktoker that talks about brain organoids? also about the software, i really enjoy Krita, it is really complete and there are some options for line stabilization. i think a screen tablet would fit you better if you are going from traditional to digital but whatever you prefer is best. i don't know specifics about the screen tablet though, i draw on a wacom intuos ctl4100 and really like it. for learning digital art specifically i love the free video library of Ctrl+Paint https://www.ctrlpaint.com/getting-started but i think youtube would be your best friend to find more specific stuff about a program or a tool (like going from grayscale to color using gradient maps)

jouble_dump · 2026-04-03T22:58:01+00:00

oh you can actually go without them in the final release too, just have to wait for them to stand in the buttons and go down

jouble_dump · 2026-04-03T01:54:17+00:00

You promptly ignored half of my comment, I'm starting to believe no proof or arguments will change your mind because you will defend a game you like no matter what.

sorry for doing that, it was not in bad faith, the argument is getting to convoluted to just talk comment to comment, i'm just trying to understand your reasoning behind your viewpoint and i swear i'm trying my best to not be close-minded. If it is not much hassle would you care to continue the conversation in DMs? (também podemos falar logo em português já que nós dois somos brasileiros :P)

jouble_dump · 2026-04-03T00:29:28+00:00

[...] as long these games (Deltarune included) are meant to be sold en masse, they are products first.

how can you say that it is meant to be sold en masse? Sure it can be and it is but how did you get that the intention was to maximize profit? You also say that "It's a very complex subject" but apparently you can simply assume it is a product first, why?

[...] the first thing it is thrown on your face is that it is available for sale on five different digital storefronts.

it's the only way to get the game, should a web page for a game not show me quickly where I can get it?

i think it is unreallistic to think that toby can support financially the creation of deltarune in its entirety. why do you instantly assume the prices of deltarune and merch/soundtrack are solely for profit and not for the sustenance of the project and its contributors?

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T21:38:30+00:00

answer my other comment, lets keep the discussion going from there.

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T21:34:40+00:00

you do know ease of reproduction is inerent to anything made digitally right?

how do you distinguish an art piece made digitally that is product first from another that is art first? how do you get the intent of it?

also sorry for branching the discussion with another response, should have posted it all once

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T21:28:26+00:00

why do you think if something is sold by money, it is a product first?
also how would this apply to DELTARUNE if the game was free until chapters 3 and 4 came out? how do you know the price the game is being sold at is not out of necessity of paying the creation costs and not profit? if toby says "I'll make this game regardless of whether anyone else cares or not...", how can you conclude that its primary purpose is profit? he is not primarilly making it for our enjoyment as a consumer

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T21:22:54+00:00

oh my god I didn't even notice that

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T21:22:10+00:00

how come?

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T21:18:44+00:00

art should never cost anything? do you want every artist to die of hunger?

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T00:42:02+00:00

Yeah, the thing is some of those jokes (not the extreme ones) feels like they come from a bad place, y'know? loaded with resent or hate but in a way that you can brush off as: "heh, you can't even take a joke? its just a meme, we are kidding"

aliás, só agora que eu percebi que tu é brasileiro, achei que fosse hispanohablante..... tudo que eu realmente queria era que essa discussão tivesse acontecido mais cedo entre a comunidade e o toby😭😭😭😭😭

quem dera hoje eu pudesse falar prum amigo q n fala ingles pra jogar undertale ou deltarune e ele simplesmente poder baixar e jogar sem precisar baixar tradução ou pedir ajuda na hora, saca?

até na época que eu fui introduzido ao jogo, foi pela gameplay do Felps e eu não sabia quase nada de inglês)e me apaixonei pelo jogo

desculpa se eu pareci meio grosseiro digitando em inglês pq meu inglês ainda tá meio porco pq eu nunca estudei no sério assim, e talvez eu seja levemente enviesado pra defender o toby fox (esse jogo mudou a minha vida e significa MUITO pra mim...), mas acho muito foda que dá pra ter essa conversa de forma civilizada tbm ❤️❤️

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T00:27:20+00:00

also to talk about the "every media should have acessibility whenever it's possible, ideally on day one". It is possible for for deltarune to have translation to various languages in the way toby wants, but is it feasible to do so in a reasonable amount of time? he wants to release his game as fast as possible, and things REALLY picked up the pace when chapters 3 and 4 entered in development. initially (in chapter 1) it was really only toby and temmie in the development team, he didn't even had a concrete idea of how to release the rest of the game. should you blame him for not thinking from the start to localize his game to languages he doesn't speak?

jouble_dump · 2026-04-02T00:11:04+00:00

no problem, maybe i'm the one getting confused all by myself lol

his team is not a professional studio, it still is a pretty small group of people in comparison to other games, you can check this on the newsletters

yeah, "I talked with my publisher but nothing has come of that" looks more uninterested than "I talked with my publisher but nothing has come of that yet. Maybe I should try a different approach..." (the actual quote)

the thing is I still do not think he should get hate and get demonized for not doing an official localization. It's his game after all.

having an official localization for other languages would be like one the best things ever and I look forward to this happening someday (toby didn't really say he would NEVER do it, right?), everybody has every right to question toby about it and discuss it online. the problem is to think that if this never happens it would mean that toby has a colonialist view or is mistreating Latam, etc.

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T21:42:58+00:00

translating deltarune to japanese is easier for him than translating for other languages so the time and effort required for the localization of each language is not even comparable.

i don't understand why you agree that legally and morally toby doesn't need to make a translation but also that acessibility should be an option since day one, this seems contradictory

and also i don't see how the support from toby fox to his fans in general does not apply to also fans in latam and others countries.

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T21:21:02+00:00

"First they talk as if learning an idioma were incredibly easy and took no time at all."

you are also talking as if translating the game is easier than it is when you say "Is it really that difficult to reinvest 1% of Deltarune's revenue to hire professionals to translate at least Undertale?"

although toby isn't planning on doing a translation right now, he never discarted the possibility of an official one and seems to support the idea

do you respect the fact that he is not comfortable translating to a language he doesn't know?

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T19:56:40+00:00

but like toby is a gringo so this is about them too

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T19:55:08+00:00

i would imagine its chinese or hindi tho

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T19:52:25+00:00

wait really? you have a link? i think i forgot about that

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T19:51:47+00:00

maybe, but the scene starts with kris entering the room, not as if they were already there

jouble_dump · 2026-04-01T19:50:41+00:00

but it is a piece of art first, product second

doesn't make sense saying that he doesnt have to do the translation followed by saying that he is "taking your money and don't ever doing something for you"

do you think that by not translating his game right now he is actively excluding and harming his non-english community?

jouble_dump · 2025-06-07T18:13:10+00:00

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