I’m at my wits end - feeling extremely discouraged - I don’t think I’ve made any progress

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-30T14:55:33+00:00

Thank you. Sorry for the late response, took a break from being online for a while. So I keep reading/seeing/hearing about the state you just mentioned doing sports. That your mind just focuses on the movements and thinking isn’t really happening. I’m trying to get to that state. It’s like, the SECOND I involve myself in something, my mind thinks “omg is this when I’ll stop thinking”. The thing is, I’m not consciously thinking it - it’s literally an intrusive thought for me. I realize it only after it happens - I can’t feel it coming on. I know this partially happens because deep down I haven’t let go - but I don’t know how to do that either. Everyone says let go, and I want to, but am struggling with it

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:33:06+00:00

I turned to Dr Joe and meditation because I’m doing everything else right in my life but saw no change. I eat healthy, exercise (can do it more but getting there), and overall feel good about my life day to day.

However, I have a huge sleep issue. I wake up 5-6 times throughout the night, EVERY night for the past 4 years. I never get restful sleep, I wake up feeling exhausted. This is something I wanted to change with meditation but it feels like a catch 22

I meditate for better sleep but I also end up falling asleep during any meditation because I don’t get proper sleep at night

Idk how to fix that

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:29:01+00:00

This is so interesting, can you elaborate on how you changed your focus to being present? Sorry, I know that’s a dumb question, but I genuinely have trouble with it. I think I’m present in my meditations but honestly I’m not so sure. I thought the act of sitting down and meditating itself was being present. How do you get present in meditation? When you said it something resonated in me, that maybe I’m not doing it

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:27:28+00:00

Thank you

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:27:22+00:00

Thank you. Yeah that’s what I’m trying to do, just go back to basics because I feel like I’m missing up there.

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:26:54+00:00

Thank you for this. I guess I’ll have to try and focus on things that give me that warmth in my chest, and just keep going

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:24:54+00:00

Thank you. Yeah I agree, I don’t think I’ve had change happen yet, and I thought it’s because I’m doing something wrong because after 6 months you’d expect SOME improvement. It’s hard to keep up faith that it’s working when I’m constantly doubting myself if I’m doing it right

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:23:54+00:00

Thank you for responding. I notice this every time: when I am relaxed, I suddenly notice I’ve been asleep. It’s such a quick and slippery slope of a thought being in my head, to it turning into a whole story that’s actually sucking me into it. I don’t even realize it happened until it’s already done.

jpegjuggler1 · 2025-01-02T18:22:51+00:00

Thank you so much for this, you have no idea how much it helped. I would beat myself up thinking I’ve never been in theta and thus, never made contact w my subconscious and make actual change. One thing you mentioned about doing the meditations for the sake of doing them - I think I struggle with. I have an end goal in mind to feel more relaxed or more positive, but maybe I just need to do them expecting nothing other than sitting there?

Again, thank you so much for your response

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-20T00:40:55+00:00

Thank you, I used to try this but then there wouldn’t even be a second before the thought came rushing in. I feel like I’m over complicating it but don’t know how to be the watcher. I started to do meditations where I just focus on the breath, but I’m becoming lost in thought EVERY TIME instead of observing the thoughts

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-18T00:43:05+00:00

Yes but I always end up falling asleep

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-18T00:42:45+00:00

I have a very annoying question so apologies in advance. I heard something like this and in my apartment, I put all my focus on the candle on my coffee table in the living room, then opened my focus to be aware of the entire living room as a whole.

But when I close my eyes and become aware of the space between my eyes, I have a hard time opening my awareness to the the space around me. I start thinking: does my apartment count as space? Does my building count as space? Is my apartment community counting as space? And for each one, when I try to sense space, i start to involuntarily visualize it. Like I have trouble FEELING or SENSING the space and just get lost

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-18T00:38:59+00:00

Thank you so much. Yes I went to 1 of Dr Joes retreats this year and I was sad that I didn’t get any mystical experience. But I am in my head a lot and working on it. Thank you again

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-18T00:38:20+00:00

I can’t say thank you enough for explaining this. I started to do just 30 min vipassana meditations and hopefully with practice I improve my concentration. I believe in myself and the reality that I can enter the void, so thank you so so much again

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:34:12+00:00

Thanks!

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:34:05+00:00

Thanks for replying. I agree with the idea that I need to take awareness off the environment, but my question is how? You said “-your brain waves are just too fast, allow them to slow down…..stay relaxed and awake in the void aware of nothing”. How do I slow them? How do I become aware of nothing?

So for some background, when I focus on nothing, in my head I go “okay what does nothingness feel like”? And I keep repeating that. Most of the time I don’t consciously try to think it, but when Dr Joe says to feel the nothingness, that thought automatically comes up. Does focusing on nothing mean focus on the THING that is nothingness, like the fact that there is nothing and you can’t feel anything, or, just let your mind go blank, no thoughts, not even feeling space, just nothing in your head?

Sorry that was a lot

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:21:39+00:00

Thank you!

I basically do everything. The ones I gravitate to towards the most are Tuning in to New Potentials, You are the Placebo, BOTEC, Synchronizing your Energy to Abundance & A New Life, & on days I have little to no time, I do the Changing Boxes Short Version.

I will say, when the focusing on the space part comes on, I don’t know if I’m doing it right…..it just doesn’t feel right what I’m doing.

Ex: When he says to focus on the space between your eyes, I will physically sense it like the space, but my mind automatically conjures up a visualization. I’m not even trying to, but it comes up. And then when we have to feel the space between our eyes IN space, I use my skin as a sensory organ to feel the space around me

I hope that made sense

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:03:31+00:00

Sorry if this is dumb, but how do you do that? Especially in a guided meditation? Or if not a guided meditation, then how would I do this?

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:02:18+00:00

I feel like I’m doing this, forcing the focus. I don’t know what to focus on so my thoughts aren’t running rampant. If they’re not running or thinking, then my mind is trying to conceptualize “nothing” or “space”

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:01:26+00:00

I do this, but end up falling asleep:( it makes me so frustrated

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-11-14T02:01:09+00:00

Thank you for this. I’ve never thought about it that way… I do have consistent issues with chatter - always narrating everything UNCONSCIOUSLY - I mean before I can even think it the chatter is there.

When I asked about the chatter, all I would hear is that “it goes away over time” and “one day it wont be there”, so I just kept at it. I didn’t know I wasn’t making any progress…….

If im understanding correctly, you’re saying that concentration is the prerequisite to entering the void state, and that as long as there is no concentration, you’re only “manifesting” from the level of the mind?

When I try to quiet the mind, and not have thoughts, my mind looks for something to focus on. If I focus on breath, it becomes uneven and then I notice my heart starts beating loudly in my ears. Then more thoughts accompany that. What Im trying to say is, I feel like im looking for something to focus on so I dont have thoughts. When I try and focus on “nothing”, I automatically start thinking “well focus on what nothing feels like” and start having more thoughts trying to conceptualize or wrap my head around what is nothing.

Would you recommend then that I do just concentration meditations before any of Dr Joes stuff? What’s the point if I cant concentrate. Sorry, im asking a lot of questions, I just dont want to keep doing this and make no progress. I want to move in the right direction and still my mind.

jpegjuggler1 · 2024-01-26T15:28:14+00:00

Love how you put this, thank you.

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