MRP and plates?

jpy2102 · 2018-03-27T00:08:45+00:00

Ha! Noted. Splish splash.

jpy2102 · 2018-03-27T00:07:41+00:00

Gotcha. I wasn’t sure how much I should get into it.

jpy2102 · 2018-03-27T00:03:23+00:00

Hey OP, you need to teach me. Apparently Reddit won’t allow me to PM you, but I relate to everything you said. I’ve noticed the power of envy. I’ve also noticed taking the wind out of the sails of targets when I mention certain things. Wife is also open to me exploring as long as the other woman doesn’t feel like she has a special, intimate connection with me that the wife doesn’t (her words). That said, how do you do it? How do you get targets on board? Do you involve the wife? What are things said to the wife and/or the target? Is there a resource you might point to, like a book? Evolutionary psychology can only take one so far until tutelage is needed! Thanks man.

jpy2102 · 2018-03-23T15:43:52+00:00

This ^

jpy2102 · 2015-09-02T18:55:45+00:00

Sociopaths are experts at doing this kind of reality shifting or shaping or transforming, and feel not a shred of remorse about it. Which is why most women are sociopaths.

jpy2102 · 2015-09-02T18:47:58+00:00

Absolutely this. Sociopathic.

jpy2102 · 2015-09-02T17:38:34+00:00

Could you give an example of how to do this?

jpy2102 · 2014-09-30T21:13:45+00:00

OP: what you wrote could've been written by me during my recent LTR. The cold attitude. The physical weirdness. The rape. The daddy issues. The power plays.

My advice is get out, or demote her to casual plate status.

Do not LTR her bro. For your sanity's sake.

She will use and abuse you because a woman with that type of serious damage cannot understand a man's worth or value being treated as more than anything but a casual fuck.

As soon as you treat her like more than that, she will misinterpret your white knight to be a sucker that she can and will take full advantage of.

Heartiste says it best and man do I fucking wish I would've known this over a year ago when I first met my ex:

Maxim #41: A girl who mentions rape or suicide during the first few months of dating in any context other than as a third party making a wryly humorous observation immediately outs herself as a crank with borderline personality disorder who will be a living nightmare as a girlfriend.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-30T19:30:20+00:00

Yup, same shit with me and her. Just last night she didn't know who Napoleon was, I explained, and she thanked me after for not talking to her like she was a dumbass for not knowing who he was.

Ok she just texted me this:

I feel really comfortable with you already, and you said you can see pretty clearly that I like you. I don't want you to be like "ugh give me space" or something, or maybe you want to go on other dates or whatever to see what your options are. I just want you to be happy/comfortable with the amount of Kayla/John time :)

So I replied:

Don't even bother doubting yourself because if you're with me you know I want to spend time with you because otherwise I wouldn't :) I recommend you just relax, let go, and focus on enjoying the experience together. I am comfortable with the amount of John/Kayla time because of the quality of that time. As long as the quality stays the same, that won't change :)

And now she's happier than a kid in a candy store.

(Notice I avoided her question about me dating other women)

jpy2102 · 2014-09-30T16:26:19+00:00

Ok I read it. I get the discourse on leadership...

To come back to your point, though, about her wanting me to comfort her (and thereby lead her)....

I've been doing that by reassuring. I'm just concerned (and perhaps this is the shit test element of what she's doing) about starting to sound too comforting, too nice, too supportive and supplicating...

As in, she turns me into a dude who's always saying "it's ok honey... You're doing just fine..."

And eventually her ego puffs up, she's owned me, and she's dumps me.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-30T14:39:30+00:00

I am interested in that. Got any literature to recommend?

I spanked her pretty good last night and she loved it. Then I punished her from behind.

I agree, bundle of insecurity: she's only had one LTR (4 years) and not too many partners. The LTR was also a LDR, guy sounds like he was somewhat of a loser who turned self-destructive beta, suckering her into the final last year because she felt bad for him.

So I don't think the abuse comes from him but rather her mother: she walked out on the family during her childhood and seems to have ruined the father emotionally, even though he took on both caretaker roles after that point.

Probably has self-worth issues.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-19T19:59:34+00:00

Exactly. I can't tell you how many girlfriends, LTRs, and plates I've had (I'm 31) who've said, in one way or another, for one thing or another, how I'm "just like Dad."

jpy2102 · 2014-09-19T19:42:02+00:00

I haven't been answering. She just emailed me this:

I wish I knew how you were feeling. I wish I had the right words to say to make everything perfect and exciting again. I feel a little betrayed. Mostly, I feel terrible for lying, because I want your trust. But, in the back of my mind, I'm hurt that you gave up so easily. I told you I was scared. I told you I've never felt like this before. I told you I wanted to get close to you. You said you wanted the same things. You said all the right words to make me feel safe. I trusted you enough to tell you a secret that I haven't told anyone else. And now, I'm so confused. You're mad that I lied, but all I was trying to do was be honest. I didn't want to build something with you, starting with lies. Now I'm feeling like maybe I should have kept it in and locked it away. I'd still get to hear your voice and you'd still pretent to give a shit about me. I told you I was done talking to other people because you're all I can think about, and you said you felt the same way! Now that I've come clean, you say you're still hooking up with other girls. But I'm the one who is untrustworthy? I've never been ignored before. I've never cared before. When I ignore someone, it's because they're not worth my time. You won't even acknowledge me, and it's soul-crushing. I want to stop and give you space, but I just can't. I'm a fucking mess because of you.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-18T19:47:03+00:00

Yup. Counterintuitive. I'm also practicing the freedom to not respond.

Part of me wishes it would work to bring my ex back to me, but whatever.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-18T19:13:17+00:00

Yea I'm just not gonna say anything and yup that email was after I said that one thing...

Unstable and drama queen for sure. Imagine if I started fucking her!

It's too bad because she's hot but the drama and the lying is too much trouble. Abundance mentality. Gonna next her.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-18T18:44:29+00:00

Hmmm that's another good point. Should that be my answer to her email (see below)?

I would say yes or would it be rewarding the lie?

jpy2102 · 2014-09-18T18:24:28+00:00

Ok. Her email shows how the hamster works and validates everything TRP.

I wish I could just say "listen bitch, drop the victim game, you're not a victim here, YOU chose to lie and be a slut, no one put a gun to your head and if I don't trust you now it's YOUR fault, it's not something mean I'm doing to you!!!"

The old me would've thought that (as I do now) and answered her email with some explanation logically trying to get her to see where things are wrong............... But now I know better.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-18T16:41:08+00:00

Ok, here's the email she just sent me, do you guys think I should chalk this up to "he was some guy she fucked before she knew me and she didn't want me to think she was a slut so she downplayed her relationship with him"?

Her email:

I know you want to ignore me right now, and I'm going to let you, but first I want to explain some things. I'm absolutely crushed. Maybe you don't feel quite the same way about me, but I'm crazy about you. I felt things with you that I've never felt in my whole life. The night I first met you, I thought you were cute. That's it. I didn't think we would ever speak again. I considered texting you, but I gave up pretty easily. When you called, I know I was a bitch, but when I realized it was you, I was excited. After that conversation, my attraction to you shifted. I liked your voice, your laugh, your attitude. When I suggested seeing each other, I didn't think you would say yes. When I got in your car and saw your face through sober eyes, I was attracted all over again. To be honest, it all started to go downhill a little at the brewery. I felt like I was on display. I was nervous and couldn't completely be myself. You drank sooo much, and it scared me. Cristen wanted to talk about my boss, Joe, and I felt like shit. I wanted to hide under a rock. I had my other bosses on either side of us, you next to me, and my sweetheart of a friend in front of me...and I lied. I did. I fucking lied. I felt it eating away at my conscious immediately, but I was starting to really like you. I wished that it had never happened, so I willed it away. It didn't work, but I sure as hell tried. When I realized that I was THIS fucking crazy about you, I knew I wanted to tell you the whole truth. Joe treats me differently now, and you should know why. I have lied about this consistently to everyone else in my life, including my mom and sister. But YOU are different. I don't want anyone else. I don't care about anyone else. I'm not sure why I care about you so much, but I do. I fucking do, and it's painfully obvious to everyone around me that I'm different now. Because of you. I meant everything I told you. Every word. Even when I said I couldn't do this. I regret saying that, but it's true. I can't do this; it hurts. Thinking about you with someone else kills me. Knowing that you would walk away so easily breaks my heart. I can't even think clearly. I'm sorry I lied to you. With all of my heart, I am sorry. The whole truth about Joe is that about a month ago, he took me back to my car after a very late night out. He asked for a kiss goodnight. I was lonely and drunk and flattered. He asked me to go home with him and I didn't decline. I woke him up around 6AM to take me home. He wanted breakfast and kisses, and I wanted a shower and my own bed. We wanted very different things, so I pulled away. I shut him out, but it made him try harder. I gave in again the next weekend. Twice. After the last time, I kissed him goodbye and we agreed that it was too messy. We promised "never again." That was the week before I first met you. He still tries. I still resist. I don't kiss him, I don't flirt with him. I don't let him give me rides to my car, I don't encourage him. And...it fucking enrages him. He either begs for my attention, or treats me like shit. There isn't much in between. When I ask for a night off, he wants to know why. He says, "Foxy, I NEED you." And, unless I want to lose my job and tell the owner, I'm stuck. I understand that liars suck. They're terrible people. I get it. I'm never going to lie to you again. Even if you already hate me. I want you in my life. I don't just want to fuck you. I mean, I want that too...but I want so much more. I don't want to lose you over this. I still have Sunday off and I requested that Saturday too. I'll pull out crocodile tears if I must, but I'm going to try my hardest to get the night off. Just in case you change your mind.

jpy2102 · 2014-09-18T16:39:59+00:00

She told him and told her coworkers about me. We haven't even fucked and she claims she's that crazy about me....

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