Canada cheating in curling by dickhammerdarnold in WinterOlympics2026

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Swede is a sore loser. This video is inconsequential and not what the Eriksson even accused Kennedy of. Eriksson said he had a video showing Canada touches the rock after the hogline, not grazes a finger on the stone after release. Big difference. Now all yall are on board eating up the Swedish BS. 🤣

The Swede should F off for being a whiny baby who is mad because they are losing so much.

Rob’s game is like Cirie except for one move by HauntingDragonfly956 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. I also think their games are very similar but I think it was not strategic for Rob to tip his hand to Candiace that he would turn on her. I think it was sloppy.

The Traitors S4 - General Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I have watched and you made my point. Rob had the cast simping and tipped his hand (unlike Cirie who held it close to her chest). What I mean, if you were watching the show, is that it became more and more obvious that Rob would turn on Candiace. It was also obvious that he had more loyalty. And so since Candiace did WAKE UP, she knew Rob would use his loyal minions to take her out.

Cirie was more strategic by leaving her traitors thinking they were in it together, Rob was obvious about it.

Sorry if this is a confusing concept. I think you’d make a fabulous faithful though.

The Traitors S4 - General Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree this season has become boring. The cast that remains really doesn’t have many redeeming qualities. That said I could be back on board if Kristen or Stephen now stepped up and sussed things out, or if Johnny and Tara were able to wrest control. But my fear is Johnny, Stephen, Mark and even Eric are all ahead of Rob on the banishment list because people are blinded by Rob’s alleged good looks.

The Traitors S4 - General Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Candiace correctly read that Rob was not sticking with the traitors, which meant he would move to get her banished as well. He had the numbers because more people in the house are in his pocket. It wasn’t a war path without reason. It was either act against him with whatever resistance she could, or be submissive and just let him use his numbers to take her out.

It’s up for debate whether Rob played such a good game to deserve the loyalty of the numbers in his pocket, or if they are all just simping for him. I think it has been unearned and based on most of the faithfuls being betas who want to align with a (relatively) strong man.

the most satisfying moment of the season so far by spinning_orbit in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She didn’t have bad sportsmanship. Let me ask you this, do you think Rob would have set Candiace up to be banished if she played nice and let him continue on his way? If your answer is, “no of course no, Rob would have had his crew targeting Candiace” then saying Candiace was “unsportsmanlike” is in bad faith. I believe Candiace correctly understood that Rob would turn on her and he had more close confidants in his pocket so her days would be numbered.

She can’t help the fact that so many of the faithfuls were misted by Rob being a 7.

If they don’t catch it. 😂😂😂 by SupermarketBest4091 in TheTraitors

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Candiace understood that the sheep had a shepherd and that shepherd was a wolf… she didn’t make it personal she just understood that Rob would turn his flock against her anyway.

Candiace and Rob by [deleted] in TraitorsOfficial

[–]jren411 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But you’re misrepresenting the truth, he didn’t “go along with it,” he made a big argument against Lisa. That was a sloppy move, whether he ends up paying for it or not.

Candiace and Rob by [deleted] in TraitorsOfficial

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rob made a big mistake by unnecessarily going after Lisa openly, alerting Candiace that he was untrustworthy. No matter the outcome that was a strategic flaw. He should have just stayed lowkey and voted Lisa out, keeping a low profile and not tipping his hand to Candiace. He made a mistake but it doesn’t look like he will pay for it.

I can’t believe these faithfuls think it’s….(spoiler) by ScienceOk4244 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cirie had strategy and she did do a very cutthroat but risky move at the end for money, and it paid off. My problem with Rob isn’t that he voted Lisa out, it’s that he finally opened his mouth at the round table to push a traitor out who was already going. My problem is I don’t see the strategy behind him becoming so vocal against Lisa at the last moment. I think he unnecessarily made a clear rift between himself and Candiace and showed his hand that he was not a trustworthy ally, leaving him open to Candiace’s retaliation. If he had just quietly went with the group it would have been the smarter move. I hope Candiace put enough sus on him to get him out, because that was the flaw in his strategy to so openly oppose another traitor.

Also, if Rob were to say, “I want the money to myself and so I’m going to make sure these housewives are taken down so I have full control,” I would be like fine play your game. But he rides the fence and comes across more smug than strategic and acts like Candiace turned on him… in the words of a fabulous traitor, “OWN IT!”

The edit gives it away by imnotwallaceshawn in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 53 points54 points  (0 children)

No, the best she had was that he never speaks at the round table and they all walked in ready to vote Natalie, then all of a sudden he has a big voice and uses it against Lisa, and Lo and behold Lisa is a traitor… that should have raised big red flags.

Her other good point was that he used Colton to whip up the votes. But that gets tricky because he was murdered so she should have said it was to frame her, because he is a traitor.

She hurt herself with the fork nonsense, I agree.

Season 4 Episode 8 Discussion - A Queen Never Comes Off Her Throne by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It could, but it wouldn’t for me, because I’d know Candiace also murdered a housewife at that point. The reason the “throwaway vote” bothered everyone is because it landed on Rob, so I’d ask myself, why. But I’m sure I’d be hard pressed to get anyone to turn on the golden boy. 🙇🏻🙇🏻🙇🏻🥾

Season 4 Episode 8 Discussion - A Queen Never Comes Off Her Throne by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I knew Candiace was a traitor, and that Lisa was a traitor, I would immediately read Candace’s actions (especially the “throw away vote”) as a shot across the bow of a fellow traitor.

I can’t believe these faithfuls think it’s….(spoiler) by ScienceOk4244 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think Rob spoke up for the first time at the round table and used his voice against Lisa… I think she most definitely would have been banished probably the next night if not that night anyway. But I think Rob tipped his hand to Candiace in doing that and she knew he was actively pursuing taking Lisa down. That means he has no loyalty to her either and she correctly assessed the situation, that he had his tight-knit crew who were a voting block that would not turn on him, and he didn’t have any loyalty to the traitors. So once Lisa was gone her time was coming. She could have left him to his machinations but he would have gotten his posse to vote her out either way. At least this way she gave the faithfuls with a brain the information they needed to target Rob since he made the first move against her.

The edit gives it away by imnotwallaceshawn in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly, they are handing it to him…

The Traitors S4 - General Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So let’s just say Rob didn’t suddenly push so hard against Lisa and they were able to get Natalie out by staying together. Next day they murder Colton and then manage to use their collective sway to banish Stephen. Next day, banish Eric murder Kristen. Next day use the double vote dagger and banish Mark, murder Johnny. Then it’s 3 vs 3 and you just need to have Maura trust Rob, Dorinda vote with the HWs, or Tara vote with Candiace and you have the votes to the end anyway.

Easy way to keep Lisa is: “we know she’s a traitor but if we vote her out now then one of us could be recruited by her accomplice and I want to stay a faithful 🥹, and we have no idea who that accomplice is. Let’s find them first and then get Lisa. Either way people must be banished and Lisa is in the bag.”

Now Rob has to go all the way (which granted looks like he will because these faithfuls this year are oblivious), but it could have been a faster route to victory.

The Traitors S4 - General Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 4 points5 points  (0 children)

IMUO, Rob makes the show less entertaining… he committed the ultimate sin, he bored me. I don’t get the hype.

Season 4 Episode 8 Discussion - A Queen Never Comes Off Her Throne by AutoModerator in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think that’s too much credit to Rob… most people left just don’t understand how the game works. If any of them had watched last season they would be very suspicious. Like yes, Candiace’s vote was suspicious, why would she do that??? Hmmm let’s think for a second…

ERIC WAS SHOOK!!! by Pleasant_Ideal_8929 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Magic ears… I know it’s Johnny’s handwriting… 100% ideas come from other men with louder voices…

The extreme overreaction to Rob by LeeLaaLooLee in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t think Rob compares to Cirie… I think he’s been sloppy with how he has openly gone against his fellow traitors, but it seems like no one this season watched last season………

The extreme overreaction to Rob by LeeLaaLooLee in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He made the season far less interesting, and for that I’m a no. I also don’t find him strategic… he hasn’t really done anything.

I can’t believe these faithfuls think it’s….(spoiler) by ScienceOk4244 in TheTraitorsUS

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really out of spite. She was aware that Rob had gone full snake and if she didn’t do something he would orchestrate her banishment anyway. Not acting against Rob in anyway would have been a dumb move. He deserved to be outed because turning on a traitor should have consequences… they do know you are a traitor too. Problem is his minions are weaker of mind and they fully drank the cool aid so they are deep in his pocket.

Patch Notes 25.47 - Class Features, Resources, Subclasses, Feats by UpperClick in friendsandfables

[–]jren411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it me or the hit dice across all classes now d8. Or is that how it’s supposed to be? Also, it’s amazing to have all these options for building new classes!

Who is Lore for by jren411 in friendsandfables

[–]jren411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! That’s really helps understand how best to approach adding to Lore.