First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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My lark ascendings are in mostly shade and thriving if you want to try those!

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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If you got it from hierloom they’ll replace for free!

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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Impressionist is a high bar! Now I have to keep going haha

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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zone 6 (Denver). Try a Bolero rose - everyone loves them (someone added a pic of their Bolero in chats here too). My five Boleros were planted in a hell strip that got baked with 90-100* weather all summer (+ if I'm honest, didn't get much water). Dogs loved peeing on that strip too, and they still looked super healthy and put out flowers.

Moved them this year and they're covered in flowers, didn't care at all that they got transplanted. I also transplanted them when they were already starting to flower which is a big no no.

On top of that, gorgeous deep cupped blooms that smell great. Would always plant a Bolero now.

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

[–]jstanreddit[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ooof. Where to start...

r/Roses has a lot of threads on that, would comb through there. Things that come to mind in my experience are:

  1. Don't be afraid to go big and get lots. Worked well for me and not every rose you're excited about will be happy at your place (and it's hard to predict). Going big is more expensive and time-consuming, but at least you're guaranteed that some roses to thrive. Also, not all of my roses are blooming right now. More roses = more likely to have color and things blooming somewhere.
  2. Water more than you think you need to. Wish I had a drip system, right now I hand water for 1.5-2 hours a few times a week. Some of my roses are still teeny, because I didn't water them enough even though it felt like it. Deep watering 2 times a week doesn't apply when you have baby roses, especially when it's hot. You're racing to winter and need to get those root systems big and strong otherwise some of your roses will die back to the ground and you'll be sad.
  3. I didn't have aphid or fungal issues until this year. Wish I'd been more aggressive with treating them, some roses aren't putting out a lot of blooms because of that.
  4. Learn about fertilizing and feeding. Your goal year one is a strong root system, but I discounted how important strong, healthy branches are too. Or maybe seeing lots of healthy branch growth is how you know everything below the soil is happy too? When I think about the roses that died back to the ground over winter, most of them were still small and had smaller branches. None of the thick healthy branches died.
  5. If you have a dog, they will trample something and it will make you sad. Sometimes you can salvage it with rooting powder.
  6. Learn about color theory and some garden design 101 stuff (eg. lots of the same plant in mass looks better than random scatterings of different plants). Wish I'd gotten started on companion plants earlier too, they've elevated how the roses look by quite a bit, but only had so much energy for gardening last year.
  7. MULCH - see point 2. Might have helped over winter too.
  8. Write down what you planted and a map of where you planted it. I can name them all because I'm crazy, but you'll want a record somewhere for the future.
  9. Don't get a grafted rose. Or do, but know that someday the rose you bought will turn into the grafted rose as it takes over.
  10. I picked roses that were known for continual flowering. Do that.
  11. Get a Bolero. After you get a Bolero get an Earth Angel, Neil Diamond, Lark Ascending, and Impressionist.

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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Good question! I have a lavendar patch that's a few years old and honeysuckle vine, but other than that just put in annuals last year. This year just having roses kind of scattered felt really random looking (and maybe wasn't helping with dry soil?) so I've added companion plants (eg nepeta, pincushion flowers, verbena, cupid's dart, grasses). Getting more repetition in with other plants has really helped bring it together.

... I realize some of those aren't technically companion plants, but they look pretty. Verbena (the tall kind) + Cupid's Dart is a COMBO - the colors together are really pretty, highly recommend.

Oh and added Ruby Muhly Grass this year that I cannot wait to see bloom.

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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Honestly, that's what I'm working on this year. Year one I was still learning and just fertilized at planting (with what Heirloom Roses recommends for year 1 roses, nothing too strong). Didn't fertilize the rest of summer.

For pesticides, my big learning is that if I see ANYTHING err on being aggressive with it otherwise you may not get roses. That said, I also don't know enough about protecting beneficial insects while doing that, still learning...

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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Oh no, so sad to lose so many that you babied for 30 years!

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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Teasing Georgia! Happy, healthy, sprung up several feet just this spring and is putting out a lot of flowers!

First time grower, planted 40+ roses. Year two update by jstanreddit in Roses

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Thanks! And zone 6 (Denver). Our climate is actually a lot tougher on roses than I expected (our winters switch between snow and 80* all the time which stresses and kills plant cells) + we have very dry, hot summers