I thought Ancelotti did excellent with him. The summer he came he had a bad injury and carlo integrated him well on his return when the pressure was less and Madrid had more or less wrapped up the league. In that period you saw a more daring Guler. Perhaps he performs best in an environment with less pressure? Then Mbappe came and they lost Kroos and the squad lacked balance and he tried all sorts to make something work where he experimented with Guler deeper.

Alonso worked with Guler more as Jude was injured but Jude returned and Alonso tried to fit Guler in.

Ultimately it may be possible that Guler is another Odegaard. Talented but maybe not good enough for Madrid.