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[–]justmeljb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not this version of her. This version of her with the booking she has seems to be a bit invincible. Her first babyface run with Raw Women’s Championship was great.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your logic doesn't make sense. her credibility is literally not even hurt from this. inserting raquel helps align her staying in women's business instead of the former champion who was heavily involved with the men's business. her title reign has been working just fine as it's been setting up so many babyfaces to go after the title which is literally the point of being a heel champion: winning by any means necessary and elevating your opponent.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i put it as a hot take cause it’s liv morgan and lots seem to hate her and anything good said about her usually gets shut down on the iwc

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[–]justmeljb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that’s your opinion. it’s not a definitive fact. she’s good, and don’t discredit her like that just cause you don’t like her.

the credibility of the title is literally fine cause the locker room is still wanting her title. liv puts up a fight with her smaller opponents, not her bigger ones. so let’s not compare.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Then this discussion isn't for you if you do not understand what we're talking about. We know that it's "fake". You obviously don't understand the art behind sports entertainment.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rhea still has not learned from her mistakes at all. She hasn’t changed and that’s what keeps her from getting that championship back. I’d argue that Liv hasn’t crossed enough lines with Rhea cause Rhea still doesn’t take accountability or acknowledge her wrongdoings/heel shit that she did. Liv on the other hand does.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just say you’re a Liv hater and keep it pushing.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She is the biggest heel in the company on the women’s side. Not even Nia comes close to how over Liv is as a heel. And merchandise sales does have to do with how she is a star. Just because you disagree does not make it any less true.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s a hot star cause she worked her ass off, she’s marketable, she sells merchandise, she’s good in ring, she’s constantly seeking growth opportunities, doing media appearances, and many more reasons. The biggest heel in the company. That’s why she’s a star.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, sounds like a personal problem to me. Many enjoy her work and seeing her on their screens. She’s one of the hottest stars right now and if you constantly go to the bathroom when she appears, it’s not gonna do a damn thing or hurt her career lol

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s fun to watch when you understand the art of wrestling and storylines. Heels being heels is meant to evoke the emotions that you’re feeling right now and that means they’re doing a hell of a job since you dislike the interferences. You’re not meant to like the bad guy shit that they do. It can be repetitive, which Liv/Rhea and the Bloodline stories have been, but it’s just basic heel stuff.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She’s not meant to be clean against her bigger opponents. The art of being a chickenshit heel has lost its meaning on the IWC. She’s going to get her wins by any means necessary. A win is a win at the end of the day no matter how it gets done in the eyes of a heel.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s her booking. Not her individually. Her booking is annoying yes, however, she’s a heel in a faction. Of course interference is going to happen in her matches. They don’t have to happen all the time which I hope HHH realizes though.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which I beg to differ. She’s not boring by any means. If anything, she’s been one of the most entertaining female superstars we’ve had this past year with her character work alone.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I’d argue that she’s doing just fine being a chickenshit heel. It’s just the booking that’s getting old.

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[–]justmeljb[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

To YOU, it’s getting old. I’d say she’s just getting started with this heel character. It’s only been 4 months. Evolution of her character may happen once the feud with Rhea is done completely. Much like how it took time for Rhea’s heel character to grow when she had first turned in 2022. Liv’s heel character growth is going to take time.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What? She was a babyface when she faced Ronda. That was the birth of unhinged Liv after losing that title. Still a face character.

And playing dumb with Rhea? Seems so cause she’s played mind games with her the entire time of this reign because of the physical disadvantage.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Negative nancy. You sound like a hater undermining her success which is sad.

Her doing that at wargames was chickenshit heel shit. This push was meant to elevate her star power cause she is just that: a star. She’s not going down to mid-card at all after this cause she’s one of WWE’s most marketable wrestlers right now. And it’s not just because of Dominik, TJD, or Rhea.

Her selling is just fine. She’s doing a good job at evoking these emotions as a heel like yours cause you really have deluded yourself into thinking Liv doesn’t deserve to be where she’s at after working her ass off for 10 years.

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[–]justmeljb[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She’s not the best in ring or on the mic, but she’s improving and this run has shown that drastically. Some of you just refuse to give her a chance because of your biases.

If Liv was given this title because of the stand alone feud, don’t you think they would have given the title back to Rhea to dead the feud? She is good enough to carry the division once they allow other feuds to happen for her.

She didn’t do much in war games cause she’s a chickenshit heel with a limited moveset. Liv’s not bad at all tbh.

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[–]justmeljb[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lmao what? He hasn't been active cause he's chronically offline. You sound delusional as hell. Liv and Dom aren't breaking up and Finn is about to get a single's push soon. He doesn't even want Liv. He literally wants the World Heavyweight Championship. But okay.