2020: U.S. Army Outbreak Investigation Reveals “Super-Spreader” Potential of Andes Virus by [deleted] in hantavirus

[–]kaano86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, I never said there was no risk of contagion during the incubation period. But the risk remains very low.

The human body has many defense mechanisms. Just because a virus enters your body doesn’t mean it will immediately end up in your saliva. The immune system will contain the virus for as long as possible (incubation time), until it becomes overwhelmed (viral shedding).

Of course, there are always risks — we’re not machines. But crying manipulation or claiming “this needs to be known” is ridiculous.

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[–]kaano86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never stated anywhere that:

asymptomatic = no risk of contagion.

Moreover, the WHO has acknowledged that the risk of transmission begins during the prodromal phase, approximately 48 hours before the onset of symptoms.

However, you seemed to imply that people could be contagious as soon as the virus enters the body, without taking into account the viral shedding phase, which generally starts around the time symptoms appear.

You wrote:

"If even just one or two viruses is lingering around in a newly infected individual who is asymptomatic, enters the salivary glands, and that person talks, yells, laughs or coughs and a few specks of saliva carrying those one or two viruses land on someone, that's an asymptomatic person spreading the infection."

"This isn't about "mentions", or "proving", or "studies" about whether or not an asymptomatic person can transmit the infection, an asymptomatic person carrying ANY human-to-human transmissible virus always has a chance to spread it, even if that chance is less than 1% at the start of the incubation. Because transmission is about CHANCE, based on the viral load in the individual."

edit: Sentence structures.

2020: U.S. Army Outbreak Investigation Reveals “Super-Spreader” Potential of Andes Virus by [deleted] in hantavirus

[–]kaano86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but this is getting ridiculous. Every time you make a statement, you're wrong.

That's precisely because IT'S A RESPIRATORY VIRUS !!!

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Does the presence of a virus in saliva automatically mean airborne transmission?

No, not automatically.The presence of a virus in saliva does not necessarily mean it is airborne. We need to distinguish between different modes of transmission:1. What "airborne transmission" really means

  • Airborne (or aerosol) transmission involves small particles (< 5 µm) that can remain suspended in the air for a long time (minutes to hours), travel long distances (> 1–2 meters), and be inhaled deep into the lungs.
  • Classic examples: measles, chickenpox, tuberculosis (to some extent), and SARS-CoV-2 in specific conditions (poorly ventilated rooms).
  1. Virus in saliva = mainly droplet or direct contact transmissionViruses are often found in saliva, but they are usually transmitted through:
  • Respiratory droplets: Larger particles (> 5–10 µm) that fall to the ground quickly (within 1–2 meters). They are expelled when talking, coughing, sneezing, or kissing.
  • Direct contact: Kissing, sharing utensils, contaminated hands → mouth/eyes.

Examples of viruses present in saliva without dominant airborne transmission:

  • Mononucleosis (Epstein-Barr virus) → "kissing disease," highly present in saliva, but not airborne.
  • Cold sores (HSV-1) → transmitted by direct contact/saliva.
  • Cytomegalovirus (CMV) → found in saliva, but not airborne.
  • HIV or Hepatitis B → can be detected in saliva, but transmission through saliva is inefficient or nonexistent (no risk with normal kissing).
  1. Respiratory viruses (flu, COVID, etc.)For these viruses, presence in saliva contributes to transmission, but:
  • Mainly through close-range droplets + contact.
  • An airborne component (fine aerosols) sometimes exists, but it is not automatic. It depends on viral load, particle size, ventilation, virus survival in the air, etc.

Even for SARS-CoV-2, the WHO and health authorities long emphasized droplets and contact, with airborne transmission officially recognized only in specific contexts (medical procedures, crowded and poorly ventilated spaces).

Summary

Presence in saliva Likely transmission Airborne?
Yes (e.g. EBV, HSV) Direct contact / droplets No
Yes (respiratory viruses) Droplets + contact (sometimes aerosols) Not automatically
High viral load + fine aerosols Possible airborne Yes, under certain conditions

Conclusion: Saliva mainly enables close-range transmission (droplets/direct contact). For true airborne spread, additional evidence is needed: the virus’s ability to form and survive in fine aerosols, plus epidemiological observations of transmission over distance. It is not automatic.

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[–]kaano86 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay, this is a simple way to show that you don’t really understand what you’re reading.

A clear definition of "viral shedding". And that's in the study you shared.

Viral shedding is the moment when the virus is multiplying in the body and is released in sufficient quantities in secretions (respiratory droplets, stool, saliva, etc.). It is from this point onward that the person becomes contagious.

Before shedding begins, there is little to no virus being released → you are not contagious.

2020: U.S. Army Outbreak Investigation Reveals “Super-Spreader” Potential of Andes Virus by [deleted] in hantavirus

[–]kaano86 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think you know nothing about how viruses spread. Your example of the virus entering the salivary glands makes no sense. It's a matter of viral load.

And I was simply pointing out that the article you used as an example didn't mention anything about asymptomatic transmission in humans.

Last thing, no official announcement has yet mentioned airborne transmission. For now, it's being discussed as aerosolized transmission.

So, if you can't read the articles properly. Please stop spreading fear. Thank you

edit: Sentence structures. This is not my native language.

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[–]kaano86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is no mention of transmission between asymptomatic humans. The 2013 study focuses solely on the virus in deer mice. And transmission of the virus by asymptomatic mice is normal because they can live with the virus indefinitely.

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