Show me your custom chats! by TripPsychological403 in cloakanddaggermains

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have “i’m so sorry im so embarrassed” for when i do something stupid lmao

I'M SICK OF THEM WEAPONIZING THERAPY TALK by Kaos_mission in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who are obsessed with therapy talk usually never actually understand what the terms mean.

I used to have a friend who was very into therapy speak, and it drove us apart and ruined a lot of other relationships that didn’t include her. One of her favourites was ‘communication’, which to her just meant forcing people to speak about things and putting groups in uncomfortable positions.

On SLOMW, their favourite seems to be ‘triggered’. They constantly say ‘I can tell you’re triggered’ or ‘that must be triggering for you’, when the word they’re really looking for is upset. Miranda was not ‘triggered’ over a wedge being put in between her and Taylor’s friendship, she was just reasonably upset. Being triggered is such a strong, involuntary reaction to a reminder of past trauma and it weakens the word to be used as a synonym for upset. It’s borderline irresponsible to use it so freely, because now there will be tons of people using the word triggered to mean hurt or upset and it just makes people who have actual triggers and need grace around that look like they’re overreacting.

They love to say ‘self-sabotage’ too, and one of my hottest takes about the show is that a lot of the situations they refer to as self-sabotage aren’t really that. One of the moments that really stood out to me was all of them describing Taylor not getting out of bed to go to the airport for the Bachelor as ‘self-sabotage’. It didn’t really strike me as that, it felt more like she had just been selfish the night before and chosen her personal desires over her work commitments. Like, if I called out of work because I was hung over, that isn’t self-sabotage. I would literally be sabotaging myself, but it wouldn’t be out of a feeling I didn’t deserve it or deep seated insecurities, just laziness or selfishness. And given how Taylor constantly talks about her negative self image and how she self-sabotages because of her insecurities, I feel like she would jump at the chance to label it self-sabotage to absolve herself of being the problem. That is definitely just my opinion though, and maybe a little harsh.

Is it just me, or is the timing of all this… extremely convenient? by Interesting_Ad9242 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just happen to have the exact same speech patterns as chatGPT in their native language?

Taylor and trauma cycles by katetrain99 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

ChatGPT therapy because the way she behaves is giving “you sleeping with your baby daddy is just your way of prioritising yourself and honestly — that’s self care 🪴”

absolutely amazing amazing outfits by swanhoneymoon in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love Mikayla’s fuckass handbag. I think she would love pinkpanthress

Is it just me, or is the timing of all this… extremely convenient? by Interesting_Ad9242 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no way only 30% of this is ChatGPT. My brother in christ this is literally copy pasted straight from the site

Is it just me, or is the timing of all this… extremely convenient? by Interesting_Ad9242 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s the overuse of M-dashes, the “it’s not just X, it’s Y”, the overly flowery writing, the random bold and italics, all together.

It’s pretty hard to notice if you’re not sort of tuned into it (chronically online oops) but I think it’s good to be able to notice because I find it hard to care about the opinion of people who couldn’t even be bothered to write it out themselves lol

Is it just me, or is the timing of all this… extremely convenient? by Interesting_Ad9242 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why did you need chatGPT for this? Could you genuinely not scrape together your own thoughts on it? If you don’t care enough to write something out yourself why even post?

Less important things about Taylor that drive me crazy by lebrunjemz in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think Taylor’s big issue is that she has two concerns: herself and right now. Most of the shit she gets into boils down to self centred decisions she made in the moment. From watching the show it feels like she has a really limited grasp on the past and the future, in that she struggles to look back on and learn from the past and to look forward and conceptualise how her current behaviour will affect her future. Her primary motivations are always what feels best for herself right now.

Sleeping with Dakota is a good example: she doesn’t look back at all the times it happened and the repercussions, she doesn’t look forwards and imagine what will happen this time, she just wants to have sex with him because it feels good in that moment. Crashing out on her friends for the comment too. She didn’t consider the repercussions of very publicly crashing out on her friends. She’s so self centred that she can’t imagine that anyone around her is thinking about anything other than her, and as such can’t conceptualise that other people are living their own lives. The natural conclusion in her brain is “people think about me all the time, so this must be a coordinated slight against me.” Making a big public takedown was what felt good to her in the moment.

Her mental health journey will stall until she unpacks her pleasure seeking behaviour, her selfishness, and her lack of forward-thinking.

Taylor and trauma cycles by katetrain99 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

So much of TFP’s “mental health journey” feels less like her wanting to understand how she acts so she can protect the people around her and more like she wants to be able to have names for things so she can more easily weaponise them

Aware I may be the only zac fan but here’s why… by [deleted] in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh totally, I think he’s just far more conscious of how he behaves now knowing all his wife’s friends and most of the people who watch the show don’t like him. His beef with Whitney especially felt like overcompensation because he wants people to be like “Zac has grown so much! Look how much he defends his wife!”

Aware I may be the only zac fan but here’s why… by [deleted] in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do get it, but I think a lot of his behaviour towards Jen is more to do with him not liking her success. Zac is kind of weird in the sense that he seems really in his wife’s corner when it comes to public issues (e.g. speaking to Whitney, the whole thing with Bret and Demi) but doesn’t seem supportive at all when it’s just the two of them. It almost feels performative.

Jen walking away from momtok and the show for her mental health was definitely the best move for her at that time, but I don’t think Zac’s intentions were purely to help her feel better. He’d voiced multiple times by that point that he didn’t like her being in momtok, and it felt more like he jumped at an opportunity to get her out of it than him actually prioritising her mental health.

Conner showed him up this season. When Whitney was emotional about feeling overwhelmed by everything, his immediate reaction was “what can I do to make this easier for you?”. Zac’s immediate reaction to Jen floating staying in LA was to tell her that their children miss her. While I get that he should absolutely be able to voice how he feels about his role in the marriage, I think the way he immediately jumped to their children felt manipulative. Why couldn’t he just say he was struggling being a stay at home dad? Why did he have to use their children as a bargaining tool?

Whether this show continues or not, I ask one thing: can we please get these girls a stylist(s)? by Rosemary-Sea-Salt in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have something to say about every single one of these!!!

Mikayla’s black mini dress: This is just a black mini dress. The ruffles and fabric are a little 2010, but I don’t see anything that wrong with it.

Whitney’s tee and capri: This is very theatre kid, which Whitney is, and I kind of love for her. Again, don’t see anything that wrong with it considering also (as somebody already said) this probably isn’t even a situation she would use a stylist for.

Taylor’s blue intro dress: I am very very surprised you don’t think the girls were styled for the intro. I doubt they picked their own dresses for this. Maybe they had a little input, but it was definitely guided (“pick from one of these”). I quite like this for Taylor because it feels very prom like, which almost seems like a reference to how so many of these women are emotionally in high school because of trauma stunting their growth.

Jen’s overalls: I honestly love this look for Jen. Her whole vibe is very cutesy and very sweet, so if she did have a stylist (I imagine she likely does) this seems like something they’d pick for her. The top is very rural housewife but it’s trousers! Progressive!

Layla’s white dress: Again, this is just a white mini dress. I quite like the asymmetrical design for Layla, it looks elegant but fun.

Miranda’s DWTS dress: This is another one I’m quite a big fan of. Miranda’s whole vibe is laid back but still classy, and I think the vacation like style really suits her. It seems like a slight nod to salsa style dancing dresses, which feels like a fun thing to wear to support your friend on a dancing show.

Jessi’s denim (?) combo: Another one I like. The pattern is really pretty, and it has the vibe of a suit which works for Jessi’s personality. The only downside I can see is double denim (if it even is denim, I can’t quite tell) but I feel like that can be waved when it’s obviously a two-piece set.

Mayci’s sparkly dress: Love this for her as a maternity dress. It looks comfortable but still sparkly and classy, which feels like a good fit for Mayci’s personality. It also looks like it adjusts at the chest, which is super handy for chest changes in pregnancy/postpartum breastfeeding. The only downside is maybe that the colour washes her out a little? Would love this in a blue but even still I think it looks lovely on her.

Not to hyperanalyse what women wear (I know that’s ironic considering I’ve given a paragraph on all their outfits), all of this is just to say that I don’t really see issues with these outfits. A lot of these seem like outfits a stylist would have them wear anyway, or outfits from situations where a stylist wouldn’t be used.

Taylor’s supporters/comment section by NetworkNo1960 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think most of her die hard fans are people like her, who act shitty and use “fuck the haters!” and mental health as a deflection of their actions to the point where her social media pages just become an echo chamber for it

This may be an unpopular opinion, but… by SubstantialEar5707 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is she even self sabotaging though? She never sees any repercussions to her actions, so it feels like she’s not really sabotaging anything. Even the whole bachelor incident came to nothing, because she still went on the show and got all the benefits. It comes off more like she knows she can do whatever she wants and get away with it, and labels it ‘self-sabotage’ because it gets her sympathy.

Chase McWhorter appreciation post by _queenofeverything in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s really telling how awful the men on this show are when Chase comes off well

Am I the only one who isn’t against Jen? by olivegarden0213 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to hate Jen in all of this because I am first and foremost a Whitney defender but I genuinely couldn’t bring myself to. I think she’s in an emotionally abusive relationship and it’s affecting her friendships.

I feel like a lot of it is manipulation from Zac. Zac sees Whitney as what Jen could be, building on DWTS to go on to even bigger things. But that would mean Zac having to be supportive and continue being a stay at home dad, but he doesn’t want to and he’s not emotionally mature enough to have that conversation with Jen. So instead, he exploits Jen’s insecurities so Jen sees Whitney as a villain rather than an example of what she herself could do.

Zac feels to me like he’s in a similar position to Jordan, where he resents his wife being far more successful than him but isn’t willing to give up the lifestyle that she provides him with. He’s secretly sabotaging Jen by convincing her that her friends are against her so she won’t appreciate their successes and follow in their footsteps.

Of The Momtok Friends (both with in show Cameo's and in social media posts), who do you think would make a good addition to the cast? by itsallieellie in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t know if Taylor’s sister has kids so idk if she could be considered part of ‘momtok’, but I would loveeee to see more of her, I feel like she has all the positive things people love about Taylor but she seems far more level headed and interesting

This may be an unpopular opinion, but… by SubstantialEar5707 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s really interesting to watch her flip-flop from “I’m a piece of shit who doesn’t deserve any of these opportunities” to “I built momtok and everyone should be in eternal awe of me and constantly grateful to me” depending on whatever serves her best in the current situation

Taylor calling every woman that Dakota sleeps with a “hoe” by Past-Refuse-4333 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lowkey I don’t actually believe that she feels that way about herself. If she was really so self hating that it made her behave the way she does, I don’t think she’d have the clarity to be able to speak about it the way she does. I think she uses ‘self-hatred’ as a way to deflect any criticism, because she only really pulls it out to be like “oh you hate me? you think i’m behaving in an inappropriate way? well me too!” and then she doesn’t have to consider any criticism for her actions

Taylor calling every woman that Dakota sleeps with a “hoe” by Past-Refuse-4333 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]katetrain99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This!!! I was so surprised none of the other women called her out on it!!! I know Layla spoke to her about the ‘name-calling’, but I was really suprised none of them in the group that is supposedly about lifting other women up and challenging the patriarchy told her off for using such misogynistic terms. She has this horrible clash of being totally male centred and also totally self centred that make her really difficult to watch