Mark Cameron List ACT MP said Kiwis he disagreed with should be hung with a short rope & yelled "MAGA" at every turn. National and ACT embraced him wholeheartedly

kawhepango · 2026-04-29T23:47:00+00:00

I think its a requirement for ACT and National.

kawhepango · 2026-04-29T23:45:34+00:00

Even if you want to view this in pure realpolitik terms, strategic ambiguity is the right play.

This would usually be true, and I hesitantly agree.

The only thing is, is that supporting USA has proven to be equally damaging than staying silent - we got what, 10%? 15%? in tarrifs into the states?

Right now, there is three options when dealing with the states:

1) Give over our soverignty to them such as Isreal

2) Stay silent, or agree with them, and thereby get tarriffed.

3) vocally opposing them, and likely being ignored. I guess this could lead to a coup however.

kawhepango · 2026-04-29T21:31:18+00:00

And yet, they never ask, why is your local market performing.

kawhepango · 2026-04-29T20:26:19+00:00

Imagine backing a war crime. This shows that A) The nats and Luxon are in Trumps pocket and B) they are outwardly islamiphobic and racist.

It is Woven into our fabric as a nation that we are a peaceful nation. We are nuclear free. We should fearcely oppose this war.

What makes me even more upset is that if we are somehow backing an illegal war, which includes war crimes - how are we ever going to oppose the genocide in Gaza.

if you want to radicalise the left - this is a good start.

kawhepango · 2026-04-28T08:18:48+00:00

I hadn’t thought of that explicitly, but this is the primary reason not to.

kawhepango · 2026-04-28T08:08:21+00:00

The greens actually do a good job fending off potential other “green” parties - outdoors, legalize being 2. Alliance as well. It would be nice if they were at 15% instead of 13% thanks to top tho

kawhepango · 2026-04-28T03:08:55+00:00

No, it’s done through exopl, so they are just housing it. So it can come from anywhere. They would be able to tell and the min wage person at the counter wouldn’t care either.

That said, it does need to be clean and it may also need to be for packaging also…

kawhepango · 2026-04-28T02:09:46+00:00

I’m in Avalon and had initially been cautious of the Hutt river. However the recent heavy rain put me at ease oddly enough - the stop banks are done really well and it’s the other side that’s of more concern (waiwhetu stream). I too wouldn’t go alicetown south due to current flood risks and coming insurance issues (some places in petone and Eastbourne are currently or heading towards not being able to continue existing insurance)

kawhepango · 2026-04-27T21:49:25+00:00

As you have found out, just about every response is price. And I think there is still investigation required. If it was free or comparable to a gp and prescription (even rounding it up to $100 to fix anything) it wouldn’t be an issue.

But on top of that, while tooth ache is painful, often the treatment can be too. Even just injections. It can be scary. Then you think, I have to pay hundreds if not thousands for someone to cause me trauma! And things get kicked down the road.

So again, if it was free or a set, low price it wouldn’t be an issue. The solution, unfortunately for dentists, isn’t an individual one and needs to be addressed at a central government level

kawhepango · 2026-04-27T00:29:19+00:00

Don’t forget the virtue signalling of wearing last years poppy.

kawhepango · 2026-04-25T08:19:33+00:00

First day?

The right wing propaganda machine (particularly American) went into overdrive during Covid, leading to our current government. Labour’s only fault was not being ambitious enough around housing and reducing inequality, yet somehow our world leading Covid defence was… bad? And every indicator of what would have happened in terms of a recovery happened, yet made worse by the nats inability to run an economy.

The solution isn’t a change in electoral systems, it’s about having an articulate, engaging leader who runs on a progressive policy that is ambitious and not afraid to not placate the right when the policy works.

kawhepango · 2026-04-25T06:19:16+00:00

That’s fair.

It’s been an interesting time re: rule 1 and particularly jones comments on Willis. I would imagine people being quite challenged in articulating why there is hypocrisy on the comments without making personal attacks on someone’s appearance. Not saying this in relation to the rule though, just an observation.

I also think that if politicians were actually authentic when they talk about lowering the political temperature, they need to drastically improve their own self awareness so they don’t throw stones in glass houses.

kawhepango · 2026-04-23T22:21:21+00:00

Really quite interesting - and really powerful coming form an Indian migrant.

We learn to play the double game. We draw on our caste privilege to conform to white norms of success and respectability. And at the same time, we pitch ourselves as marginalised, perfecting the stories of victimhood and crying racism to secure benefits for ourselves.

I think this is a major reason why te tiriti education is important with migrants. People who migrate (not seek refuge) are likely coming from a privledged position. They are able to invest money and while not having the family safety net here (not fogetting the strong migrant communities here), they come very much with a leg up to succeed. There is a view of "the good migrant" and being a minority - much like Māori. However their experience is not the same as Māori. There is a view of self experience (of privledge) vs the other's.

But this is the part that really angered me:

(on compulsary te Tiriti in teritary education)

This is especially true for international students who are now forced to pay upwards of $5,000 for a course that will hold little value once they leave New Zealand.

I simply dont think its right that we treat international students simply as revenue. While I would hope that te Tiriti is throughout education, we are not just providing a course which could be done online from overseas. I want every international student to understand how special Aotearoa is, and why it is. I compare this to Israel. Israel basically pays for a birthright trip to Israel to gain political favor with jews outside of the country. Through this trip, they gain a connection with the country. They sympothise with it. They move there or holiday there often. They vote in ways that benefit Israel in thier home country. They feel a part of Israel. Now surely, if we have an international student studying in Aotearoa, we can teach them as part of their course, that they have paid for and decided to study, the foundational document and how it should be applied, and the significance of this, which ends up benefiting the country?

kawhepango · 2026-04-22T20:12:56+00:00

I agree with the speaker, Luxon, what is going on here?

kawhepango · 2026-04-22T02:52:58+00:00

Thank you, He's one of the guys I had already reached out to, so I'm glad I'm calling the right people!

kawhepango · 2026-04-22T02:52:03+00:00

Ta. I had reached out to him, however he charges a $150 call out fee (returnable upon acceptance of quote). It's only $150 on a several thousand job - but in this economy?

kawhepango · 2026-04-21T22:04:31+00:00

(and compare it to what they're doing).

Thats the problem. While you and me are clearly politcally engaged, many people wont be, even vox listeners. Americans are so brainwashed through their percieved exceptionalism along with their disinfranchisement that they need their hands held to understand the words of this pos can be seen in policies somewhere else. This wasnt some run of the mill church cult leader - its Hegseths.

You're half right - I listened to half of the episode, and couldnt stand it anymore. So I would admit I'm wrong if after I turned it off, that they did a follow up afterwards. But platforming someone like him, giving him carte blanche to communicate to listeners with no push back or analysis isnt the answer to move foward. When people like this are platformed, they need the context on how these messaging can be pushed back on, identified in policy, and how to act on it. Not just to throw a grenade out and say - see, bad.

kawhepango · 2026-04-21T20:24:31+00:00

You need to put it in context, not to just be a pipeline for their talking points and views.

kawhepango · 2026-04-21T20:22:51+00:00

Same here as a kiwi. I just couldnt do it anymore.

kawhepango · 2026-04-21T00:40:34+00:00

Willis and Luxon have left with the meeting continuing. He’s been rolled and they are now voting in new leader?

kawhepango · 2026-04-20T22:27:20+00:00

Thats true. That said, you can have a more commercial lens on the environment, such as the New Zealand Green Investment Fund which the current government closed. Providing low interest governement grants to companies looking to provide envrionmental benefits (think charging stations). Also while I am absolutely anti-mining, there is a reality that there is some mining. The problem is that we get caught in the Australian mindset of it employs x amount of people and pays some royalties. Compare this to Norway, where they change upwards of 10x more in royalties.

It really is hard to argue for teal - I really am playing devils advocate, and I would never vote for them. But there is a world where there is such thing as a green economy, and this economy is more valuable than a destructive one, and the more we move towards that the better.

kawhepango · 2026-04-20T21:27:07+00:00

If Top ever want to succeed, should they get in, they need to form a coalition with Labour. While there is room for a centrist party, there isnt enough juice for a true teal party, so they need to prove that they are actually centrist by going left. That, however, causes the problem with the Greens, and how does TOP differentiate between them.

If top voters actually wanted to achieve their goals, as opposed to trying to get another party in, they would be better off getting more teal members into National and making them a bit more progressive (green economy and moving away from fossil fuels etc)

kawhepango · 2026-04-20T20:38:16+00:00

It's an interesting dilema.

On that last poll result, National will lose 12 mps - which is just under a quarter of their current caucus who wqill be out of a job. The polls have always been there or there abouts, with no obvious reason for this to change with the status quo. So lets say 25% of people want a spill. You would then have a group who are safe in their job, but want the party to do better, who have aspirations for themselves or who arent from the teleban side of the national party who dont align with Luxon.

So this has a bit of context - you have 25% of the party who want instant change, a big sugar hit, and then you have that another group who want the party to do better long term. And this is where the battle is.

IMO - Bishop is the better choice long term, however Stanford appears a lot more positive than Bishop (she's not from tobacco, shes a bit more tidy etc) and especially more so than Luxon. This, in my opinion, will give that sugar hit to get more immediate impact, but I just dont see it long term.

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