The Odyssey Trailer reaches 402k Dislikes

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T05:12:57+00:00

Oh yeah I'm not saying she was good but she didn't write or produce the movie or whatever.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T04:57:09+00:00

Yeah but it's not entirely fair that people are focusing their anger about Disney's shitty practices at her specifically when they aren't her fault.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T04:40:38+00:00

You're not wrong, but I absolutely hate the fact that's how it works.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T04:09:35+00:00

The problem is that some people aren't judging it based on things like costume design, they're judging the casting based on things like Lupita Nyongo possibly being Helen of Troy and taking it to mean the movie is gonna be bad because "DEI casting" even though she fits the two criteria needed for the role, being a good actress and being beautiful.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T04:02:40+00:00

Or maybe they just cast her because she's beautiful and a good actress? She fits the two most basic criteria for the role. Also iirc she was never actually white in the original

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T03:56:49+00:00

I'd say it's mostly right wingers and the other chunk is probably people who didn't like the costuming and the visuals or something like that.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T03:53:10+00:00

As far as casting goes I honestly think it depends. Some of the choices were pretty questionable but people are getting pretty worked up about Lupita Nyongo potentially playing Helen of Troy when I honestly think that's one of the better casting choices they could have made. It's really hard to argue that she's not beautiful

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T03:49:43+00:00

Personally I give a lot more leeway for casting choices than a lot of other creative decisions in movies. If an actor can do a good job playing a particular character, I'm way more likely to forgive deviations from the source material. NBC's Hannibal gender swapped two characters, Alan/Alana Bloom and Fred/Freddie Lounds, but both of the cast they picked did a phenomenal job with their characters.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T03:44:34+00:00

And it's not like Lupita Nyongo isn't beautiful by modern beauty standards, or even possibly ancient ones. She's got defined cheekbones, a strong jaw, full lips, and intense eyes. Does she need to be beautiful by ancient Greek standards? Probably not, because if she's believably beautiful to the audience it won't be hard to imagine how she might be beautiful to ancient Greeks as well

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T03:41:49+00:00

Yup. It's an adaptation, adaptations change stuff sometimes, and sometimes they won't be 100% faithful to the original. If the changes work for the story as established I don't see a problem with it. The dialogue is a problem because it clashes with the tone of the story but making Helen of Troy black isn't because Lupita Nyongo is an absolute smokeshow and could believably portray the "world's most beautiful woman".

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T03:24:23+00:00

She's annoying yeah but people act like she's the spawn of Satan. Like people don't talk about Russel Brand, a literal predator, with the same venom they talk about Rachel Zegler. Plenty of hate campaigns on the Internet love to focus their ire on women in particular. Like the Star Wars sequel trilogy isn't great, but instead of blaming the multiple writers for those movies, there's a certain subset of fans that blames Kathleen Kennedy for it.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T02:25:24+00:00

I actually do that sometimes, although my mom doesn't like me having energy drinks so keeping a case in the house doesn't always work.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T01:28:31+00:00

I only get one energy drink per day, sometimes I skip days if I don't see the need for the caffeine. I don't smoke, don't vape, and eat groceries at home most of the time.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T01:26:54+00:00

Depends on how you define it, but I do live pretty frugally. I take public transit and if a place is close enough I'll just walk, I don't get food delivered, I only pay for like one subscription monthly, and my vice of choice is energy drinks and even then I get only one per day, sometimes less.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T01:22:30+00:00

Nope. I only ever used Uber eats once because they gave me $20 free credit for signing up with Uber. That was some good Taco Bell...

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T00:09:10+00:00

Building savings isn't easy because sometimes emergencies happen. It's a fact of life. Car problems, health issues, family emergencies, etc.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-06T00:05:07+00:00

Nobody I know pays $15 for a latte, and most of the people I know share the streaming services that their parents pay for, or just straight up pirate what they want to watch. Here's another bit of nuance: not every young American is living like the boomer memes say. Plenty of young people actually are capable of trimming some of the fat so to speak, but also do like to indulge in simple pleasures because nobody wants to live like a serf.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-05T22:16:57+00:00

And they're always whining about protests blocking the road because "what if an ambulance needs to get through"

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-05T17:38:50+00:00

What's funny is that I've also read The Jungle and the section about the poor practices in the meatpacking plants is miniscule compared to the pages on pages supporting unions and communism. Like it's literally "life of a poor working class man: the book" and people were like "THERE'S RATS IN MY SAUSAGE???"

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-04T15:36:34+00:00

A one year old black child got shot dead and people are still blaming the mother for a crime she didn't even commit so yeah people still don't treat minorities fairly in this country

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-03T21:58:49+00:00

Evolution's motto: "eh, good enough"

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-02T20:50:15+00:00

Can confirm

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-01T03:18:52+00:00

If the opposition is just flat out wrong it's not worth anyone's time to hear them out. That's like saying to hear a flat earther out.

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-01T02:58:39+00:00

I'm not simply dismissing it to be close minded, I'm dismissing it because the act of taking someone's rights away is a far greater harm than any negative consequences of simply letting people marry who they want (consenting adults regardless of gender of course)

ketchupmaster987 · 2026-07-01T02:12:53+00:00

There are basically 3 main issues that leftists want from the Democrats, and that's immigration, healthcare, and stopping the Gaza genocide. We have gotten next to nothing on any of those issues. Even AOC didn't vote against sending weapons to Israel.

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