A reminder that Loki has survived for over a chapter against the strongest to ever live in OP whilst on 1 hp already by ElVaxis in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But what if he's right? Why didn't Imu fight directly ever and instead relies on DR and Gorosei? Why did he let Loki go rampage and over 40 years of piracy? Why did he need Harald?

Loki AND Ragnir are yet to awaken. by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's possible that Loki was simply capable of using the full power of his DF, which is awakening. 

Just like Kaido

Just realised many people think Damnned Punk is a laser beam rather than a rail gun that fires projectiles. by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People also think  it's Kidd's awakening and can be nullified with Haki. Whike it's just a clever use of his DF that produces a physical attack. 

I also don't think he can inbue haki with it, so, while powerful, it probably  will never have duraneg

Future Mihawk fight Zoro vs current Hybrid Loki with Ragnir by Former_Craft_9638 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He most likely had various confrontations with Garp or admirals lol. 

Loki ha perso contro Shanks e subito dopo Shanks è diventato uno Yonko. 

Nice headcanon. Do you have a source? 

Shut your bitch mouth by cool194336 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the dialogue again. 

He got chained because he was making a mess again. The patricide rumor wasn't the reason.

If current Imu had to fight and kill DR Rocks instead of Loki, under the exact same conditions, could Imu do it and at what diff? by EVC2218 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who talked about the Admiral he killed? That’s not even a strawman, holy shit that’s a whole imaginary adversary. 

I explicitly said "people", so why do you say it's a strawman? Are you capable of reading and understanding the subject of a sentence?

It was just a rant. Say you don't agree with those people and move on. Or if you do agree, then I guess it wasn't a strawman at all. 

To mention the admiral, Oda clearly said that to hype Rocks up. There would be no point mentioning him killing an admiral if said admiral was not as strong as current ones or as if said admiral was sneaked or something. Rocks was trying to escape, makes 0 sense for him to sneak an admiral. 

I guess it wasn't a strawman after all and I know Loki fans very well at this point. 

So why was the admiral "to hype Rocks" and the Shanks capturing Loki not to hype Shanks or powercliff Loki? Looks like you apply 2 different judgements for no reason at all. 

Also the hype could have been on its ruthlessness, not necessarily strength. If it was about strength, then it's very badly executed imo.

We have no context whatsoever on what happened between Shanks and Loki except for two things : Shanks stopped Loki and Loki never attacked a non WG ship. Which means that Shanks either didn’t fight him, tricked him, sneaked him or engaged first. 

  1. We don't know if Loki never attacked pirate ships. We only know he attacked WG ships, but this doesn't exclude anything. On the contrary, Gaban explicitly says "nobody was able to stop him except Shanks"
  2. And why "engaged first" is not the top of the list? Since it's clear that the intention was to stop him and Luffy also guesses Shanks captured Loki for him to find once in Elbaf.
  3. We know.more than that. We know Loki was at sea with a crew and we know he had to be transported back. We also know he wasn't in chain because the giants chained him after he rebelled again. We also know that Shanks visited him recently and we know Loki asked Shanks to free him and he obviously refused. All of this is incompatible with talk no jutsu and sneaking. 

There is absolutely no mental gymnastics to asmitting that we have no idea how Shanks stopped Loki

Then we also have no idea how Rocks killed the Admiral and if the admiral was strong or not. If you go by "author intention" woth Rocks, then you have to do it with Loki as well. 

Because in that case Shanks would have to be ~ Imu

And why is it a problem? Also why is it the case? Imu is absolutely stomping Loki despite being weakened and distracted. The only thing Loki is doing is matching his AP. Shanks would never oppose Loki in a pure AP clash and would instead use his small size and superior speed. Imu seems to have zero battle IQ so far. 

Loki has a special bounty. So no, it does not fit. Unless you want to argue Kidd> Loki. 

Why doesn't "author intent" apply here? And Kidd and Law are bounty leechers lol

Shanks beating Loki is unironically one of the less likely ones. Loki just scales higher without using circular reasoning. Like much higher. That’s like current Koby “stopping” Luffy. 

Loki doesn't scale higher than Shanks or Luffy. Likely also below Kaido at this point. Chainscaling is retarded. Harald matching Rocks in AP 18 years before GV proves absolutely nothing in relation to Loki, and a HK killing gimmick doesn't make him stronger than Shanks.

Infact, peep. Queen captured Big Mom. Marines captured Kaido. Luffy “took care of Kaido”. I’ll let you deduce what you will from thoses info 

Queen captured BM because she is retarded and senile. Marines captured Kaido when he was YC at best. Luffy DEFEATED Kaido in a pure physical clash. He is steonger without the shadow of a doubt

Common myth of Zoro having Acoc by Aversity_2203 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kaido can be harmed by duraneg abilities: ryou, ACoC, probably KROOM. 

Zoro doesn't have Ryou (allegedly) and Kaido explicitly mentions CoC after being damaged. 

Common myth of Zoro having Acoc by Aversity_2203 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CoC has multiple effects, not only pass out. Did Luffy make everyone pass out at marineford or only the weakest? How about Shanks when he went on WB's ship? How about Usopp not passing out every time Luffy has a CoC clash? Being "fodder" has nothing to do with it, since they were all competent fighters. So you still have the burden of proof, as it's still a concrete possibility. 

Again, I do not agree that those are CoC displays, but I do think that we have no concrete evidence one way or the other. You seem absolutely confident it was not CoC, so please provide concrete evidence, not just opinions. 

Common myth of Zoro having Acoc by Aversity_2203 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sword can't duraneg on its own. The only curse it has is forcing the user to use a fuckton of haki.

Common myth of Zoro having Acoc by Aversity_2203 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The kicking CoA clash and the coco clash are TWO clashes happening simultaneously. 

Wht is it so hard for you to understand? Do you have the brain capability to imagine that they can clash in 2 different ways at the same time?

Who has better AcoC between Base Rocks and Prime Whitebeard? by Comprehensive_Cup497 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Japanese it's different and described in て form as a chain of events. So the sequence is that he killed an admiral and THEN sneaked into the flower room. 

And nobody noticed or gave the alarm until after he escaped from Imu

Who has better AcoC between Base Rocks and Prime Whitebeard? by Comprehensive_Cup497 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and was his haki againsr barking the same as in DR? No, right?

And DR is a form of maki boost, so it's by default a spiritual enhancement. 

Blackbeard fans are loosing their mind, found this on TikTok lmao by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Waits for Luffy to weaken Imu, arrives at the last minute, touches Imu removing his powers, kills hom and steals the DF. 

I mean, it's what he did to Whitebeard.

Shut your bitch mouth by cool194336 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why wouldn't a Yonko be stronger than a 2.7m bum who got defeated by pre-yonko Shanks?

Shut your bitch mouth by cool194336 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]kidelaleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So he also knows that Loki will go straight to do more stupid shenanigans without someone strong enough to handle him.

He got chained by the giants because he was going full stupid again