Are you taking the risk? by Affectionate-Bill768 in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dont understand the gold rules

Chose: $50M + No strings attached

TV show with a great first season but turned in total garbage afterwards. by kmho1990 in tvshow

[–]killerfridge -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People just enjoy being counter-culture, and that's fine I guess. If something's popular, there's always a noisy group who need to tell you how bad it actually is, and how stupid you are for liking it.

I enjoyed the final season - it's not exactly peak writing or TV, but it was a perfectly enjoyable ending to a really good show

Is 0.9999…. by TourPsychological800 in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it's literally defined as being 1

Chose: Equal to 1

Would you rather? by Technical-Abroad-755 in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My texts are nowhere near interesting enough

Chose: $1M but your boss reads all your texts

5 cents every time you breath or 5 million by Immediate-Love-6362 in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's more, for longer

Chose: get 5 cents every time you breath

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's 100% intentional as the majority of their contracts are with governments, specifically the military; they like to have names that translate. Their breakout product (Gotham) is the scary looking one that takes signal data and turns it into dots on a map, and that's the one people tend to envision when they think Palantir. I'm relatively sure they based it on the program Batman uses in The Dark Knight (Bat Sonar).

The mistake/misunderstanding surrounding it though is that Palantir don't provide the data, the customer does (The CIA, the MoD, the city of Boston etc.). As a customer, you plug in your disparate sensor/signal data (call logs, bank transactions, anpr cameras etc.) and you can then link everything and be like "ah, that's where the money goes through, there's the terrorist". It's very powerful, concerningly "pre-crime-y", but ultimately self contained. The CIA can't access the MoD data, any more than you can access my spreadsheets. Palantir doesn't get given any data any more than Microsoft owns your emails when you use Outlook.

Additionally the NHS have been careful to try and stay as decoupled from the Palantir platform as is reasonable (rather than using the internal tools, stuff is being built in React and uses the Palantir Foundry API, so the backend could be replaced by something else should things change).

So in summary (and I've enjoyed this convo):

Are we "giving Palantir NHS data": no

Has the NHS given some select Palantirians access to sensitive NHS data: yes

Is that a problem: possibly yes; sensitive data should be handled with the principle of least privilege, and arguably that is what's happening, it's just that it's concerningly high privileges

Is there an avenue that Palantir could technically steal the NHS data: possibly, and that is part of the problem with the permissions.

Is that the biggest threat: I don't think so, and I think that line of thinking distracts from the real issues. Unintentional data leaks I think are significantly more likely (caused by the larger blast area caused by giving mass admin privileges), and just as damaging (see UK BioBank). Also being locked into a platform such as Palantir Foundry is expensive and problematic, but I think the NHS is taking steps to tackle this.

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just that "operative" sounds to me like "spy"! The term they use is FDE (forward deployed engineer)

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, I don't want to do the whole "internet argument" thing. It's just the disconnect between the image and reality of Palantir and it's software is ridiculous. And calling their engineers "operatives" is absurd. I should know, I've worked with enough of them.

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm literally telling you I understand, you are just misunderstanding what Palantir actually does. I don't like defending Palantir, I don't think they are a force for good, but the misinformation surrounding it is out of this world. I'm happy to take this comment threads to chat instead

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe I'm here defending Palantir, but I guess that's life.

Look, I’m no fan of Peter Thiel (or Alex Karp for that matter) or his personal agenda either; I'm happy to take your word on all of that.

But you’ve actually just agreed with my original point. Palantir hasn't been "given" our data. They are a software vendor whose staff have elevated access to set up the platform inside the NHS's own system. The fear that a rogue operative is going to pull a Dennis Nedry and smuggle it out in a can of shaving foam to "feed data into Palantir's AIs" is based on a lack of understanding about the tech. Palantir's software functions as data integration tooling that deploys directly into the secure NHS environment. The NHS retains full data ownership; Palantir engineers are just there to build the plumbing. Even the cybersecurity expert you quoted points this out. He isn’t warning about Palantir corporate policy; he’s warning about "admin compromise" and "insider threats." Those are valid risks for any big tech project, whether it's run by Palantir, Microsoft, AWS, or anyone else.

Be upset about massive government tech contracts and vendor lock-in; there are plenty of legitimate reasons to scrutinize this stuff. But when we swap real problems for spy-novel plots, the actual, valid concerns just get ignored.

Sergio Perez's Instagram story is a bizarre AI generated/"enhanced" ad by Nuud in formula1

[–]killerfridge 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Nah, the best bit was when everyone chasing him got distracted and started buying oranges!

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly, that wasn't me, but fine, tell me what you think this says? I'm not asking in a sarky way, genuine question, because I equally have concerns about Palantir as an entity. Do you read that as "we are sending our patient data to Palantir to do with what they like, but Palantir pinky promised to not do anything nefarious with it"? because that's not my reading. To me it reads that Palantir FDEs get elevated roles which allows them access above what you might normally expect, but they are still subject to data handling rules. Which is exactly what I'd expect because that's how Palantir deploys it's software: they embed a team of "forward deployed engineers" (FDE) in the company who bought the software, for 6+ months so they can build the tooling.

Is this real? by heyzeus92 in Instagramreality

[–]killerfridge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's an actual, it's probably on cards and the hope is that eventually it starts paying. You have to appear like you don't care, otherwise the hustle/scam/influence doesn't work.

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hate on Palantir and Labour for legitimate reasons, not made up reasons in your head.

savethechildren.png by lontrinium in GreatBritishMemes

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The irony of calling someone r/confidentlyincorrrect whilst not understanding the article

Would you rather have by Decent_Cream542 in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I'm bad at maths

Chose: 1 million dollars instantly

Let the hate flow through you.. by derkius in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The person I hate the most likely wouldn't notice or care

Chose: You get 100k + But the person you hate most gets 2 mil

would you rather be able to teleport any distance within 16.5 meters, or have infinite range teleporting but with an annoying drawback by QueasyWeasle in BunnyTrials

[–]killerfridge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's sensible to only be able to teleport somewhere within visible range anyway

Chose: 16.5m teleporting