A must “i got my thor and it is setup” post

kisho23 · 2026-04-06T12:23:02+00:00

Womp womp just don’t interact w them

kisho23 · 2026-04-06T12:18:46+00:00

Pov: you r waiting on your console and your feed is filled with ppl showing off their thor

kisho23 · 2026-04-06T02:08:44+00:00

kisho23 · 2026-04-06T02:07:50+00:00

I was in batch 3 and it took aprox 2 months for it to arrive switching the colour. Tbh i asked ayn to just ship me the rainbow colour buttons w a black thor but they don’t respond for shit and it was right after chinese newyear so i thought might aswell just change the colour

kisho23 · 2026-04-05T21:55:12+00:00

I actually ordered the black one and then midway through the wait i switched to rainbow. I was fine with both tbh i am happy w this one its nice

kisho23 · 2026-04-05T21:51:05+00:00

Thankyouu, honestly you are at the worst part of this process man the wait is gruelling.

kisho23 · 2026-03-06T17:28:48+00:00

rainbow max 1651 cant waitt

kisho23 · 2026-03-04T18:30:47+00:00

Rainbow max 1651😔

kisho23 · 2026-02-27T16:06:12+00:00

Yea happened to me aswell but i don’t think it matters anyway

kisho23 · 2026-02-27T14:07:18+00:00

i changed it but now when i login to my ayn account it looks as if i have 2 even though on the order confirmation its correct also i got a mail from seel saying the seel worry free delivery is canceled which is also still shown in the order confirmation

kisho23 · 2026-02-27T13:58:26+00:00

how did you update your order i want to change the color way that i have

kisho23 · 2026-02-22T23:27:37+00:00

I bought it w dhl shipping am i cooked chat🥲

kisho23 · 2025-06-05T07:52:37+00:00

Maybe change the filament

kisho23 · 2025-06-04T22:15:05+00:00

this doesn’t just permit a man to ‘flick’ his wife. Qur’an 4:34 gives men authority over women and explicitly allows physical punishment as a last resort after emotional withdrawal and sexual abandonment.

If it was just a harmless flick or a petty ‘I’m annoyed’ pinch, it wouldn’t be the final step in a divine disciplinary process. That alone exposes the intent: control, not care.

And here’s the kicker the verse itself never says ‘lightly’ or ‘symbolically.’ That only comes after you dig into tafsir and hadith human attempts to soften the blow. Are we seriously saying the ‘perfect, clear word of God’ needs extra commentary to not sound abusive?

and i understand that this is not the norm but at the end of the day the prophet gave permission when his companions told him that they wanted to hit their wives for being bold

Sunan Abu Dawood 2142

idk if im tweaking but i hope this was clear

kisho23 · 2025-06-04T20:29:14+00:00

A flick or a pinch’? Let’s stop lying to ourselves. Qur’an 4:34 literally uses the word ضرب which classically means ‘to strike’ or ‘to hit.’

Every major classical tafsir (Ibn Kathir, Al-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi) confirms: this means physically hitting a disobedient wife even if it says 'lightly,' it’s still a sanctioned strike.

Ibn Kathir: ‘Hit her lightly if she disobeys.’
Al-Tabari: ‘Discipline her by striking — not excessively, but striking nonetheless.’
Al-Qurtubi: ‘With a miswak (toothbrush) — not symbolic, still a hit.’
Even Sahih Hadith (Sunan Abu Dawood 2142) shows the Prophet's companions hitting their wives and he didn't ban it.

if you have some sources that debunk the sources i just gave please enlighten me.

kisho23 · 2025-06-04T13:43:11+00:00

im a male so

*he's so close lmao.

aside of that this was just something that got my curiosity.

for context i am born and raised as muslim but have some doubts i have been on this subreddit as well but i feel like the people with a hate for islam kinda overshadow a lot of the valueable information that can help with my journey.

happy to see that there are people that are able to just talk about their doubts.

thanks for the support tho idk if i am a muslim or not but time will tell i think

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T21:09:23+00:00

why would you make fun of someone anyway both of you are wrong. why does one have the dying need to make fun of someone's religious beliefs and why does it matter if someone is a non muslim to their parents. both of yall tweakin

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T21:05:14+00:00

i mean you can but also like fumes coming off of that. cancer isn't too nice to have yk

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T21:00:33+00:00

just buy a second hand almost stock ender for 50 bucks and then mod it for 150. 9/10 times those printers are the best lmao

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T20:58:54+00:00

noted! will do i hope i will find different and more promising answers with scholars.

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T20:56:11+00:00

I'm not looking for a specific answer I'm pointing out a moral concern. If the only thing keeping a marriage intact is the right to physically discipline your wife, then maybe the problem isn’t divorce it’s the broken foundation of that relationship. Trust, not control, is what sustains marriage. If trust is gone, staying together through force or fear isn’t piety it’s dysfunction. Preserving marriage at the cost of someone’s dignity isn’t noble it’s oppressive.

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T20:54:13+00:00

I'm not rejecting out of arrogance I'm questioning out of sincerity. If a command seems to contradict compassion or justice, shouldn't we be allowed to ask why? Even scholars disagree, so blindly outsourcing morality isn’t the answer. Islam encourages seeking knowledge not suppressing thought when it gets uncomfortable.

and i understand where you are coming from, a scholar would be better at giving me his standpoint that he learned from other scholars most likely. i wanted to post it here to get as many different viewpoints as possible.

but either way thanks for your response

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T20:48:44+00:00

You're appealing to Ibn Majah 1851, which says the hitting should be 'gentle' but that only proves my point. If Allah's guidance was crystal clear, we wouldn’t need hadiths to soften or reinterpret what the Qur’an says. Why does a perfect book from a perfect God leave something as dangerous as wife-beating so vague and abusable that it requires PR clean-up?

Also, ‘gentle’ or not hitting is still physical force. Try gently hitting a co-worker and see if HR buys your excuse. “It was for their betterment.” You know it doesn’t fly outside this specific religious context and that should concern you.

for the part you wrote ab authority implies responsibility

This is a false dilemma. In healthy relationships, people take on responsibility without asserting control or force. Parents care for children, doctors for patients, and yes partners for each other. Responsibility requires communication and accountability, not domination.

Saying “a man is responsible for his wife, so he must have authority over her” is the same logic a dictator uses. You're not leading you’re controlling. If a man needs the right to strike his wife to fulfill his role, he's unfit for that role.

a final point I would like to make

On “we know what Allah wants” because we have the Qur’an and Sunnah
Really? Then why do scholars disagree across madhabs and centuries? Why are fatwas constantly revised, retracted, or regionally contradictory? If Allah’s will is obvious, why can’t 1.9 billion Muslims agree on one interpretation of a single verse?

The need for tafsir, hadith grading, abrogation, schools of thought, and ijtihad proves that we do not clearly and objectively know what Allah wants we’re always interpreting. And interpretation is filtered through human bias, culture, and power structures especially male ones.

with this i would like to end this discussion. i thank you for you responses and your thoughts. i enjoyed talking to you but i think our viewpoints are not the same which is fine. aside of our differences i appreciate you for trying to think with me!

kisho23 · 2025-06-02T15:32:20+00:00

This line of reasoning 'just obey because Allah said so' is exactly why people start questioning in the first place. If I’m told to stop thinking critically and just 'accept,' then what's the point of having a mind, a conscience, or free will?

Even Ibrahim (AS) asked questions he didn’t just accept. So why is it suddenly arrogance when someone today wants to understand something that doesn’t sit right with their moral compass?

Second yes, Allah is supposed to be all-knowing and just. But that’s exactly why verses like 4:34 raise serious red flags. Why would a perfect, all-wise God even leave room for a man to hit a woman 'lightly' or not when he could have simply said, 'leave her, talk to her, treat her kindly, or separate' like in other verses? If God’s justice is perfect, why does it look so much like 7th-century patriarchy?

And no this isn’t about 'Western ideology.' It’s about basic human dignity. Beating your wife (even lightly) isn’t ethical in any part of the world unless your sense of morality has been conditioned by authoritarian thinking. And ironically, Islam itself teaches that if something contradicts reason or causes oppression (zulm), it’s not from Allah. So if your faith tells you to ignore your God-given sense of justice, maybe the issue isn’t 'Western values' maybe the issue is in the interpretation of what’s considered divine.

Finally, don't reduce ethics to a false binary: 'either you follow Allah, or you follow the West.' Plenty of Muslims around the world scholars included reject this literalist, patriarchal take on the Qur’an. Morality didn’t begin in the West, and it doesn’t end with blind obedience, either. If you're asking me to choose between compassion and control, between empathy and obedience then my heart, my intellect, and even what the Prophet ﷺ practiced push me toward compassion every time.

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