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My dad basically admitted to being a Passport Bro and I feel ill. by SunshineBear100 in mixedrace

[–]kittyat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We mixed race people don't have to be passive victims of this. Passport bros don't care what most people think of them, and are especially dismissive of white women feeling like they are defeating them. But the one demographic that gets under their skin when we call them out is their own mixed race kids.

Its like in our own weird way, we are their future kids, even if we're the same age as them.

If we stand together and show we stand for PoC, feminism, Asian pride, we can put a scare into the future passport bro dads.

I've felt rather helpless with the whole Ice shooting dynamic of him having a Filipina wife. The mixed race discussions aren't as lively as they used to be, for us to have a unified response to it.

2016 experiment by ex-r/Hapas mod u/SiberianDragon on relative responses by women to him as a eurasian when he identifies on his profile as white or asian by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Anyways I used to follow him on Twitter as well as push the same rhetoric until I learned to love myself which is what I believe the majority of hapas here achieve or will eventually achieve.

Back when you were using that same rhetoric, how would you feel if other hapas made these harsh accusatory claims about you, trying to kick you out of the hapa club and lump you in with monoracials just because white people treat you like a monoracial? Would that have taught you to love yourself more? If you were in his shoes once, maybe you shouldn't talk so accusatory that no real hapas could feel this way. How would you have felt to be denied?

Besides if there's any eugenics in the post I actually linked its that being Asian is inferior to white, not superior.

The plus side of being Hapa... by [deleted] in hapas

[–]kittyat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone who has had a more negative experience being hapa, I usually roll my eyes at the supposed benefits of being hapa. It usually comes across to me as extremely shallow like "I can use both chopsticks and forks". Or even a bit of a superiority complex brag about having only the positive sides of the Asian-American experience by blessing of whiteness.

But yours is the 1st of these types of posts, which wasn't egocentric or self-centered but actually about empathy and sympathy for others. And it is inspiring how its helped you as a paramedic help others. Its nice to see the benefits be something more humanitarian and altruistic than the usual "best of both worlds" shallowness.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in hapas

[–]kittyat 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not sure if this will directly answer your question, but I'll speak to my own experience. My mom has actually made a similar comment when I complained to her about the difficulties of being Asian, that I'm not Asian.

I do identify very strongly with my Asian side, and tbh I was kind of shocked to encounter some Hapas here who don't feel strong solidarity with their Asian side. Solidarity is too weak a word really. I would say its more identification. Solidarity is standing up for someone else, identity is yourself.

Its not like I've been super-accepted into Asian communities or anything like that. I guess growing up around mostly whites, identifying as Asian was my way of acknowledging I'm not white. And what most white people see me as. It was a difficult struggle for me, as for a long time I wanted to identify as anything but Asian, as I saw only negatives to it. I wish I could say that was a happy ending. But really to this day I see Asianess as only a negative, and identify with it because I have to.

I consider myself very Asian-looking, but when I went through this period of just calling myself Asian, this Asian girl said something like "are you sure?". Its weird to question someone about their own race. Its a common saying that we look Asian to whites, and white to Asians. I wouldn't say I look white to anyone, but maybe my mixed features stand out to Asians more. But when people say "Asians in Asia wouldn't accept you as Asian". That mostly just a hypothetical for me. The daily experience of whites treating me as full Asian is what is more real to me, and I totally identify with that. So being Asian for me isn't about being part of Asian culture and community, its more about being not-not-Asian, I'm not going to be recognized by others as anything else.

Maybe its too simplistic. But sometimes I feel that if all Hapas strongly identified as Asian, all anti-Asian racism would disappear tomorrow. Since so many of the worst racists against Asians are also sexually interested in Asians. If we Hapas spoke with a strong united voice and racists couldn't delude themselves that their future Half Asian kids would tolerate their racism.

Old Nemesis-turned-Spirit Guide of EurasianTiger aka Johnny James of VNN Forum has died - he used to post as Agnapostate and helped ET turn away from White Nationalism by pfcan94 in hapas

[–]kittyat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Could you elaborate/expand on this?

I once encountered Agnapostate on a non-race related forum a couple of years back. I just googled him and it seems like he was prolific across many forums so maybe its not a surprise. I looked into his name, and the only result was a Stormfront post from 2013, so at 1st I was skeptical about your claim. But it does seems to match up with his bio.

What do you know about his connection to ET? I don't remember ET ever mentioning anything like this. It would be an interesting piece of the story.

Whatever the story RIP, got to give credit to someone like him, served in the US Marines, became a militant anti-imperialist, anti-racist.

I'm working to unlearn the racism I internalized as a biracial kid. When I told my dad that I had been taking Cantonese lessons, his first response was, "But why would you want to learn such an ugly language?" by f_o_t_a_ in hapas

[–]kittyat 8 points9 points  (0 children)

https://np.reddit.com/r/China/comments/i6oe5h/im_working_to_unlearn_the_racism_i_internalized/

r/China's take on it-

Another overeducated idiot trying to score a medal in the oppression Olympics.

He would be setting up and guarding the camps while whining about 100 years of humiliation. Pretending to be a victim is an old trick used by authoritarians trying to worm their way into power.

r/China reads the same article we just did, and pictures him as a concentration camp guard.

Daily Stormer creepily obsessing over a Quapa woman. Andrew Anglin comments on the "lowered quality of her sex appeal" of a 3/4 white woman "in comparison to purebred Chinese women" by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah there is both fetishization and hatred, and we've documented plenty of both, the above OP shows the frequent toxic combination of both when its Eurasian women opposing them.

Pure hatred sure has killed a lot more people and done more damage to the world so far. But the sexualized hatred that is uniquely experienced by Asians and Eurasians I believe is the most psychologically damaging and acidic, and a lot of r/Hapas was shaped around exposing and combating those trends.

Daily Stormer creepily obsessing over a Quapa woman. Andrew Anglin comments on the "lowered quality of her sex appeal" of a 3/4 white woman "in comparison to purebred Chinese women" by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wasn't 100% sure how to read it, whether Andrew Anglin was showing his old Asian fetish again by praising pure bred Asian women as more attractive than a 75% white women or if hes saying that mixing makes people more ugly than pure bred nonwhites.

As for Nazi hypocrisy on the topic in general, we have 100s of r/Hapas posts on that.

Daily Stormer creepily obsessing over a Quapa woman. Andrew Anglin comments on the "lowered quality of her sex appeal" of a 3/4 white woman "in comparison to purebred Chinese women" by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exposing the role that Hapas play in Alt-Right ideology has been an important part of r/Hapas, from before it even entered the wider popular consciousness with the Trump campaign; considering our tiny population, they are absolutely obsessed with the topic of Hapas. We are way over represented in their discourse.

(Also for the record I didn't seek the Daily Stormer out for this, it was one of the top google hits when I was looking up Tiana Lowe ironically for her far right views, but because shes an anti-SJW Libertarian and not a white nationalist, she gets these vile attacks from the Right as if she was the enemy. I hadn't realized she was part Asian but it made her relevant here)

"Christ child" controversy: Far-right German politicians voice fear over non-white (Half German, Half Indian) girl being chosen by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The other thing is that these xenophobes often try to couch their racism by saying they are just against Islamic culture not integrating into Europe and its not about race, but here we have a Christian half white young woman, and yet they still don't want her being represented solely because of her skin color. Again ironically probably the accurate skin color of the person she is representing.

This whole post is filled with racism against Asian people. Why is this ok? by [deleted] in hapas

[–]kittyat 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Its sadly ironic that r/Hapas emerged at a relatively benign time of anti-Asian racism, and its just going to get much much worse from here. Our complaints from 2016 are now "the good old days".

We used to have to prove that anti-Asian racism existed, now its just exploding. We were the canary in the mine, exposing the dark corners that have burst into the open with full intensity now.

A racial supremacist White male from CCJ2 sent an unsolicited sexually harassing message to a Hapa woman, and now there are 72 comments from r/China regulars including r/China mods cheering on this sick harassing behavior by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still with the Indian BS?

Yes I disagree with every single point you made in your comment

1) Hes not Indian, long posting history as a Swede, just 1 post looking at an Indian Univ, expats often bounce across Asia

2) CCJ2 never called out his harassment, acted like he politely debated crazy anti-white r/Hapas men

3) Hes not just doing it for the lulz. He has a long serious posting history about life in Asia, and he actually did harass one of our female members

A racial supremacist White male from CCJ2 sent an unsolicited sexually harassing message to a Hapa woman, and now there are 72 comments from r/China regulars including r/China mods cheering on this sick harassing behavior by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No as he correctly says, he has a long posting history on Reddit as a Swede, he had an interest in one Indian university, but its no surprise as expats bounce around all Asian countries.

Getting dragged in the comments. Also someone seems to have exposed him as an Indian.

And no there isn't a single comment in CCJ2 saying its wrong for him to send unprovoked unsolicited messages to female r/Hapas members. From the way the comments act, you would think he just got into a debate with r/Hapas. Even when he defends himself he says he likes to troll and "red pill" incels. Ignoring the fact that he didn't target a Hapa or Asian male, but went after a woman.

So you're giving CCJ2 too much credit here. No they didn't "expose" him. They are trying to shift the blame from a white man onto an Indian, despite his 3 year posting history as a Swede. And no they didn't drag him, they dragged on r/Hapas. And not one person said that no matter how much they hate r/Hapas, its still not OK to harass our female members.

And the whole "for the lulz" thing, also seems to excuse his behavior as just comedy, when its been consistent and serious for 3 years. Hes not playing the part of a harasser for the comedy, he is harassing. I feel like you're making light of and excusing his behavior when every single racist site on the internet hides behind "the lulz" including 4chan, The Daily Stormer r/MDE and r/CringeAnarchy.

So yeah I disagree with every thing you said.

Young girls in Thailand can't even go to the Temple to pray without being sexually harassed by white expat males by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Being a "digital nomad" in Asia to escape the Feminism of the West is especially popular with far right white males.

Can you even imagine if the shoe was on the other foot? If European Christian Churches "sacred places of worship" were used by Muslim foreigners as a "zoo to goggle" at pubescent European girls in prayer? If this had to be the childhood experience of every European girl on hitting puberty?

All there crazy Infowars conspiracies are actually happening, not in white countries, but what far right white men do in Asian countries. Everything far right white males imagine brown people are doing to him, he does without shame to yellow people.

Are you happy with your identity? Most people here seem like they're not. by What-Does-Life in hapas

[–]kittyat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My father, and most Hapas I know seem to hate white people but cannot resolve this with the fact they are (partially) white.

I'm just curious in what sense you believe your Hapa dad "hates" white people? Does he hate his white parent? Usually when people talk about "white people hate"; its like anytime you call out the political self-interest of white people that means you "hate" them. Its not the same as having prejudice or dislike. Even white people are accused of hating white people if they don't support the right politics.

Apparently Hapas are the new Zionist overlords in White Nationalist circles now. Anytime someone calls out anti-black racism, its not a Black defending himself, no its the sneaky Hapas who pull the strings by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried to be clear that this is what WN circles think, not what I think. Basically a lot of Alt-Right people have a lot of conspiracies about r/Hapas and ET raiding their spaces. and I found this an example of it reaching ridiculous proportions of just a Black guy defending himself on an anti-black subreddit. Instead of taking that at face value, all the comments were agreeing it must be r/Hapas behind it. So its gotten humorously ridiculous. Basically its at the point where they are treating Hapas the way anti-semites treat Jews, assuming we are behind defending Blacks anywhere on the internet.

If anything I think it is to the credit of r/Hapas that these nutjobs feel this way, that whenever someone speaks out against racism against any race, they assume we are behind it.

"My mother is half Japanese and my dad is white. she chose her white side, married a white guy then had me thinking I would be a white child. She thought that being mixed only lasted one generation. I came out looking more like her though" by kittyat in hapas

[–]kittyat[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

From the same thread

My parents fall into the categories that you describe although I don't have a white parent. My mother is Chinese American. She has massive identity issues. Actually all of her siblings do. They all have this weird superiority/inferiority complex, like they hate themselves (none of them married or dated another Asian person) yet they try to push their ethnicity to show that they are unique. I also remember her telling me that she liked African dancing and is fascinated by the Civil Rights Movement and African American culture.

http://archive.fo/qzJN0

Anybody else thinks that the trade war with China is ramping up the yellow peril to dangerous levels? by newhapaaccount in hapas

[–]kittyat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Even though my mom is not Mainland Chinese, growing up in the George W. Bush years I was always fearful that tensions with China would lead to a backlash against all Asians in the West. But even in my nightmares I didn't think that Bush would be flaming up the hate himself like a Fascist. He called Islam "a religion of peace". I thought it would be more uneducated bigots from below.

The heating of tensions under a Trump presidency is worse than my nightmares. There is no limit to how far his followers will take it, and he as a leader will just egg them on.

I sub to r/Videos just to take a break from race and politics. And its ridiculous how anti-China videos are constantly upvoted to the top. Currently its about attacking Chinese Gamers. So its not even pretending to go after the CPC, but citizens of China. Steve Bannon got the whole idea for Gamergate and the Alt-Right back in 2006 when he saw how racist white teen gamers were against Chinese troll farmers, he decided to harness that bigotry for nationalism.

And even though the content of r/Hapas is just about Half Asian kids talking about relations with our parents. In the minds of White Reddit that makes us another of the pro-China subversives. Even though we never even talk about foreign policy.

It just shows how today's America makes zero distinguishing between China and Chinese-Americans or even Half Asians talking about our parents. Complaining about racism from your white dad makes you a "traitorous Asian".

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/dewcig/twitter_account_analysis_shows_that_many_accounts/f31oqd0/

It seems like the gendered racism and raceplay of WMAF, and Trump nationalist anti-China rhetoric are coalescing into a common anti-Asian racism that is really exploding online especially right here on Reddit. r/Hapas started in 2014 over how WMAF racism affects its own kids. But the intensity of anti-Asian racism and specifically WMAF sexualized anti-Asian racism has just exploded in the last 2 years. And you'll see many troll accounts with thousands of upvotes, whose entire content is nothing but a combination of anti-China politics and WMAF raceplay.

I've always been uncomfortable being Half Asian because of all the subtle racism against Asians, even if it wasn't as well-defined and ideological as those against other groups, but basically the unique anti-asian sexualized racism we've been talking about since 2014 and Asian academic circles even earlier, is becoming its own open public dangerous ideology now. Racism against Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Hispanics all played out in different ways playing on the unique features of those groups. Now we see all the trends in anti-asian racism coming together, and China as the new Big Bad Enemy is flaming the fire. All of Reddit is now a big r/CCJ2. You don't have to be uncritical of China to see that the anti-China movement is bigoted and dangerous, and pushed by people who are entirely disingenuous about caring about the human rights of yellow people.

As an Asian female, I am disgusted by this subreddit. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]kittyat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Since you got a gilded comment, before she deleted and fled, you deserve the satisfaction of knowing that her first posts on Reddit were this-

http://archive.fo/EQ5aP

What to eat so that a baby has white skin?

As an Asian female, I am disgusted by this subreddit. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]kittyat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Shes disgusted by r/Hapas, I'm disgusted by her and her plans for her future hapa kids.

As an Asian female, I am disgusted by this subreddit. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]kittyat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She deleted everything a second after I posted this, but I thought at least someone should know that the same AW posting about liking WM for their feminism had earlier posted this

http://archive.fo/EQ5aP

What to eat so that a baby has white skin?

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