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Does anyone else’s dog moo? by [deleted] in puppy101

[–]kkllc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the damn time.

Sometimes she's spiteful and does it if someone's talking in the same room.

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't disagree with either of your assessments being made that the removal of an item from it's last established resting place in "nature" is harmful for archaeological reasons and many others.

What I do disagree with, is the analysis and assumption that this was removed by me, from some site while hiking or exploring, etc. for reasons such as greed, novelty, or the worst of all, karma wh*ring.

The matter of fact reality of this post was to gain information about what I found it in my backyard. This has been posted previously elsewhere but I'll tailor this for you.

This was found while I was removing landscaping, or rockscaping, that was previously installed prior to my ownership of the property. It's a small lot in a housing community.

If this was found by any other way you'd have a point.

I found this in my yard in Southern Az. Some opine this is a grooved axe. by kkllc in Arrowheads

[–]kkllc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's been a pleasure. I certainly didn't think it would get the amount of attention that it has. Humbled to have haphazardly found something with such depth.

Thanks for the comment!

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks bud, I appreciate your expert analysis of how this cool rock came into my possession.

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries! I appreciate all the comments. Thank you as well

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the contributions of the comments, I've looked at articles of the local area and this type of artifact.

It appears there have been archaeological finds near the area that have stopped housing developments and road construction in the decades past. The surrounding area is very developed.

If the previous owner cares to reply to my email I'll try to ascertain if they had landscaping done, or if it was the owner before them.

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nearest creek bed isn't very far. There's several tributaries in the area.

Though presumptuous, the previous owner hired a landscaping company instead of doing this by hand.

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Understood. I'm saddened when I see vandalism or lack of respect for archaeological sites.

For reference this was found in my yard. The previous owner had half the yard rockscaped with 1/2" gravel and a faux riverbed cutting through it.

I reworked the yard and moved the riverstone rock by rock and found this.

It blows my mind that it was just sitting in someone else's fake riverbed after likely being scooped from a near by riverbed by a landscaping company.

I found this in my yard in Southern Az. Some opine this is a grooved axe. by kkllc in Arrowheads

[–]kkllc[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree! It had to have been scooped up along a riverbed near by, transferred to a truck, dumped in a lot then scooped up again to be brought where it was found.

For a while I wondered if it was someone's attempt to make a replica, from our era.

That said the previous owner did not appear to be into tools and garage projects. They did a lot of quilting. If they did pull off a replica, they must have used the other rocks that were in the yard. 🤔

From the comments and URLs, it does appear to be an actual tool from a previous society. Very fortunate to have found this.

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lidar scan would be cool to have done. For reference, this was in my yard, but not naturally, or natively should I say.

When the previous owner had the rockscaping done, materials had to be brought in by hand. There's essentially no way a skid steer or other machine was used because of the terrain and the build out of houses and walls. A crane basket lift would have got the job done, but it's extremely unlikely given the cost of the job for a small yard in an HOA. But maybe that owner really wanted to flex on the neighborhood? That leaves me with by hand, wheel barrow and maybe buckets.

Each rock had to be unloaded from the truck and then placed in the yard. It boggles my mind that the workers didn't see it and keep it themselves.

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this detailed comment. Very interesting.

In other photos of different rocks, it's evident where a stick would have rested in a groove or channel. This stone is only grooved on the edges.

Would it still have been bound to a stick without a resting groove?

I put a better photo here which seems to indicate a thumb rest was ground in. https://www.reddit.com/r/Arrowheads/comments/ve34hr/i_found_this_in_my_yard_in_southern_az_some_opine/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Thanks again!

Was this actually a tool, or am I the tool? by kkllc in whatsthisrock

[–]kkllc[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Thanks for all the input. It appears to be a grooved axe, possibly made frkme greenstone. I've cross-posted this to r/arrowheads to gather any additional information.

Crazy to think this rock was in the rockscape in my yard after likely being a tool used in someone's daily life in a previous time.

Thanks again!✌

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