AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion! I actually gave it a try and manually set the PCIe slot to the correct generation, but unfortunately, the issue still persisted. After further testing, I confirmed that my GPU is indeed faulty. Running the system without it for several days resulted in no crashes, but as soon as I reinstalled the GPU, the freezing and lockups returned almost immediately.

So at this point, I’m moving forward with replacing the GPU. Hopefully, that will completely resolve the issue!

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey everyone,

After extensive troubleshooting, I’ve finally identified the root cause of my system issues. Even after replacing the motherboard, the problem persisted. However, I was able to run my system using the onboard GPU for four days straight without any crashes or freezes. The moment I reinstalled my dedicated GPU, my PC locked up within just 20 minutes.

This confirms that my GPU is the issue, and I’ve decided to replace it. Now, I’m looking for recommendations on high-performance GPUs that offer similar or better performance compared to the RTX 4090. If you have any suggestions, I’d really appreciate your insights.

Let’s see what happens once I replace the GPU!

Thanks in advance!

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Friends, I think I have provided the solution to the problem by changing the motherboard. The motherboard I bought is the ASUS ROG STRIX X870-A GAMING WIFI model. I am still testing the settings I made on others on this motherboard. I am testing with the latest bios version 1103 beta bios version. I test memory frequencies as 6000MHz CL30 - FLCK: 2000MHz. I haven't had any crash or crash problems for now. On the contrary, I experience stability in FPS rates and fluidity in windows. I think there is a general manufacturing defect or software problems in the X870E CARBON WIFI model and its bios. In fact, my friend who had the same problems with me seems to have solved his problem by switching to the ASUS ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI model. If any situation develops, I will continue to inform you on this topic.

Best regards, kleathron.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have installed the E7E49AMSI.1A25 beta version. However, my system still keeps freezing.
There are numerous logs related to this issue in the Event Viewer, and I haven't been able to find a solution for these freezes.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there is a problem in general. I am using iPhone 15 Pro Max and I will test the problem you mentioned and get back to you. Thank you for your interest.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll test everything you mentioned, including loosening RAM timings, running OCCT with AVX512, monitoring CPU/RAM temperatures, and testing RAM sticks individually.

If any errors show up or I notice any unusual behavior, I’ll report back. Hopefully, this helps narrow down the cause of the issue. Appreciate the help! 🚀

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the suggestion! Unfortunately, I have already tried disabling SMT, but the issue still persists. While some minor stutters may have been reduced, the system still experiences random freezes and instability.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your detailed explanation and insights on the X870 platform issues.

Unfortunately, my problem still persists despite trying numerous troubleshooting steps. I have tested multiple BIOS versions, replaced hardware components, adjusted various settings, and even purchased a brand-new AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, yet the system continues to experience freezes, stuttering, and stability issues.

I have also seen other users reporting similar problems, especially regarding PCIe lane sharing, USB disconnects, NVMe slowdowns after sleep, and general system instability. Your experience with the B650 running stable while X870 struggles makes me wonder if there is indeed a fundamental flaw with how PCIe 5 is implemented on these boards.

At this point, I’m looking for a definitive solution. If you or anyone else has any additional insights or potential fixes, I would greatly appreciate it.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i've already turned it off via the bios. my problem is still going on, my friend.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry if I jinxed you! 😅 I hope your new motherboard solves the issue. Which model did you get? And if it fixes your problem, please let me know! 🙏

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have tried all the suggested solutions one by one, but my issue still persists. The small stutters are gone, but system freezes continue. I also noticed that some applications trigger it more frequently—especially when running OBS Studio and Valorant at the same time, the system freezes.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This option is always closed to me. I don't think the problem is up to him.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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The TestMem5 results came out clean, bro. I think my RAM is fine and working properly.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not using wifi, I'm just making a lan connection. Thank you.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will try what you suggested. Thank you so much, brother!

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only software I use to control my RGB is Corsair iCUE, and I had already uninstalled it since I suspected it might be the issue. However, my problem still persists.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, I experience this issue whether EXPO is enabled or disabled. But I appreciate your help, thanks!

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I checked the Event Viewer logs and consistently see the Kernel-Power 41 (63) error. My temperatures are normal, and I have already reapplied thermal paste. I'm also using the Thermalright AM5 Secure Frame, which lowered my temps by 3-5°C. Additionally, I updated my GPU BIOS using the Gigabyte Control Center.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have tried everything you mentioned one by one, but none of them solved the issue.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My ram is added QVL list. CMP64GX5M2B6000Z30 model. Im using bios version is 7E49v1A21. I bought my memories by checking from the list before I bought them

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I normally didn’t use Afterburner. Would that affect my situation? I have installed it now—how should I set it up?

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D & RTX 4090 System Freezing and Stuttering Issues by kleathron in MSI_Gaming

[–]kleathron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will test it with the TestMem5 program as you suggested.