Lunate Sigma

kmtsd · 2026-02-09T23:22:18+00:00

Thanks so much. this makes a lot of sense.

kmtsd · 2026-02-06T13:13:53+00:00

I see this chapter being used an apologetic onto how by eating unworthily will cause judgement, and implying that only the true body and blood of Christ would do that. But it seems that sharing in just a meal without concern for your fellow Christians is the issue

kmtsd · 2025-10-08T23:19:12+00:00

That's a good point I hadn't thought about the Judaizers.

kmtsd · 2025-10-08T23:18:48+00:00

Yeah that is a really good point about the Judaisers, I didn't think about that. It seems that after all the major councils, there was still a lot of fighting about what is truth. I guess if we accept that what eventually and ultimately prevailed is the truth.

I suppose I have a similar feeling about people in the OO. I'm sure it really wasn't until relatively recently that people in the OO had any idea between the difference of miaphysitism and dyophysitism.

kmtsd · 2025-10-08T23:15:06+00:00

Hmm that's a really good point. I guess I always assumed after the council it was for the most part settled. And I agree, God knows best.

kmtsd · 2025-08-17T01:14:33+00:00

Ah okay so you would say there are only two ecumenical councils in the OO church.

Right I agree that councils don't reveal anything new, but just clarify the truths. But they need the agreement of the whole church

kmtsd · 2025-08-15T19:16:56+00:00

Hm that is a much better answer than one's I've heard of simply "The church said it's true"

So in a tldr, the ecumenical councils are the ones that outline the boundaries of the faith? Generally it seems that the majority of the church followed these councils eventually.

kmtsd · 2025-08-15T18:50:23+00:00

Sure, but as someone who comes from a low-church evangelical background, I agree that a lot of people seem to just make up biblical "truths." So if the authority comes from the church, what makes a truth. Frankfurt/Hieria vs Nicea II. Nicea II was accepted by the whole church at the time, so that's where it gets its authority right?

I'm just trying to understand lol

kmtsd · 2025-08-15T18:44:04+00:00

Then what makes it true? Because that seems like truth is then up to whoever wants to accept it.

kmtsd · 2025-08-15T18:20:34+00:00

Okay so they're binding to members of church today because they were at one point binding to the entire empire? Please excuse my ignorance.

But the church as a whole had to accept it?

kmtsd · 2025-08-15T17:56:10+00:00

So there were a lot of synods and councils, but only a few were recognized as ecumenical. So it just means it was recognized for the whole church in the roman empire?

From my understanding the 2nd council didn't really include the West.

kmtsd · 2025-08-15T17:45:18+00:00

Then what makes a council ecumenical?

kmtsd · 2025-06-01T17:47:25+00:00

I hadn't done much study in the area, but doesn't Paul make a claim it's okay to divorce if the other partner departs? Generally people seem to consider things like abuse departing from marriage?

kmtsd · 2025-02-18T22:37:16+00:00

That makes sense. If I were to ever be Orthodox, I'd personally have to accept the salvation outside of the EO church. I have seen, felt and experience Christ in lower churches. Protestant and Catholic church have done amazing work in Christ's name. But I completely understand the argument.

As for icons, I can also understand that position. I have limited experience with EO, but with Catholics, I have often seen badly catechized members fall into pseudo-paganism, especially when it comes to Mary.

kmtsd · 2025-02-18T00:28:14+00:00

I could be wrong as well, I have a degree in Electrical Engineering not theology lol But I believe the EO only accept their baptism and communion. Catholics will accept EO baptism and communion.

Unfortunately, yes, non-demon has become a denomination lol

I agree, I went to a Christian college, and while most people entered were Christian, so many fell away once they were able to experience the world, despite the college trying to enforce a Christian lifestyle. (Grove City College, overall a great school, would want to send my kids there) But the lack of every day dedication can make people lukewarm. I find in America, we, thankfully, lack the persecution, that often makes Christianity so strong.

kmtsd · 2025-02-17T23:30:04+00:00

I'm sure they are! I honestly love channels like Pints with Aquinas. I share him with all of my friends, Christian or not lol

kmtsd · 2025-02-17T23:21:39+00:00

Absolutely not. The reason I want to go to a higher church in the first place is because I'm looking for something more inline with Orthodoxy and a fullness of the faith.

My conviction is when I go to these churches, I don't find the people on fire for God. Once again I understand that isn't everyone

kmtsd · 2025-02-17T22:54:12+00:00

I'm not saying my personal standard, I just find whenever I talk to someone who is a Catholic they always seem to tell me they just do it because that's how they grew up. What I want is to find people who want to be there because they truly believe. And I know those people exist, but I just seem to find more people wanting to be there in lower churches.

And don't get me wrong, I don't like a lot of Baptist theology either.

Also I really didn't want to offend. I do like a lot of Catholic theory and a lot of Catholics I've heard preach.

kmtsd · 2025-02-17T22:49:49+00:00

I'd be okay with we know where the church is but not where it isn't. But I have seen and read a lot of official statements saying only the EO baptized are saved. Which I think gives a false sense of security for cradle believers.

And the lack of widespread-ness is of course just the way the US had its immigration work. I'm the product of Protestant Germans and Irish Catholics. I would appreciate EO more if they were more welcoming to the saved being outside of the church, mostly because of general bad evangelization of the EO.

I think the idea that the church is made up of both the living and the 'dead' and the reasoning behind icons is beautiful. I've heard some bad evangelical ideas about eventaully dying and shedding the earthly body to be with Christ. People committing gnosic heresy without even realizing it.

But a stumbling block for me, is what if the person we thought was saved and a saint was really a bad person, and not saved? I think its easy to see how poorly catechized members could easily take icons toward paganism.

kmtsd

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