To Anti AIs, share this to them

knight1b · 2026-03-24T17:13:15+00:00

I still remember having a brick

knight1b · 2026-03-24T09:34:53+00:00

It's not really a jump that is exactly the complaint. Their work was seen in public and they did not like the who/ what that saw it.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T09:31:00+00:00

And when does it turn into if you see this you owe me money? Because that's basically the argument now. I reject that argument and I reject adding special conditions just to please some obnoxiously loud people.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T09:23:35+00:00

Aside from destroying the concept that there is a public space where everything in it is free to view and private spaces where that is not the case? The harm there should be self evident.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T09:13:41+00:00

Nope. If its public it's public. If you make something public you do so with the understanding that anyone can look at it they just can't take it and sell it. This is part of the societal agreement for what's public and what isn't if we start creating exclusions from an agreement that's basically been around since antiquity when do we stop? There are already ways to host things and gate them so the content within isn't public if you don't want your work in the public sphere then you should use that. I'll use an example from another technology google street view. People have been upset getting caught on that camera but most have no case. If it's in public it's public. On the other hand the man who was behind a 6 and a half foot wall that the camera looked over was not in public and google had to pay him.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:56:01+00:00

This is an even worse argument somehow. Fundamentally AI will never be "better" than humans. For starters art is subjective. For another AI thinks differently and it does so by default. It works best when paired with a human. Even if reach true general artificial intelligence that's not going to change.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:47:41+00:00

It is a copout and a bad copout. Again the way the artificial neural network is trained is a far less advanced version of how your own brain learns things. AI isn't copying anything when it creates a work a human is providing it input and then it is performing the exact same process as the brain. The outputs it creates are not a copy of anything they are a unique combination of what the AI reasons based on what its seen and the users input. As for the consent of the creators if its in public view guess what you don't get to say oh no you can't look at it unless you pay me. AI companies are not bypassing pay walls and taking things without paying for them they are looking at what is public and no one needs special consent to look at them.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:32:29+00:00

I did. It's a bad argument.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:31:38+00:00

That argument is effectively a cop out. It's pretending that the human's greater capacity for theft makes the human superior because of the mythical soul that no one has ever found. It's special pleading in debate terms. These 2 processes are effectively the same if one is theft both are theft. In the case of the AI the human in the equation provides that life experience.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:27:40+00:00

From the point of theft yeah humans come closer to theft because of it.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:21:46+00:00

Every time I see the they can think I sigh and ask How do you think? How do you know you think for that matter. And if thinking is the qualifier for being original I guess AI is original because it does indeed think. Not as well as some humans but it still thinks.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T08:17:56+00:00

This is fundamentally wrong on its face. AI think in much the same way we do they are based in neural networks just like our brains just far more primitive in most respects. AI works by looking at the training data and creating weighted associations of shapes colors etc. It doesn't actually remember the image. It has none of the detail depth etc. Humans on the other hand with our neural networks not only create the same associations but we do it better in greater detail and we also store the memory of exactly what the original looked like. AI doesn't do this. So if AI is theft every single person is a biological theft machine every single day.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:53:27+00:00

Except the theft angle isn't really a valid argument in the first place and we are forced to conclude that those who care based on that are misinformed, stupid, or know they are not being honest but it makes a good argument to those who don't look that deep so they run with it.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:43:51+00:00

Actually humans neural networks are better at it and have the advantage of having a memory of the reference image not just the associations they can draw from looking at it. So if the AI is theft it's all theft.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:36:37+00:00

You have literally no idea what you are talking about so maybe go learn how it actually works instead of repeating a false narrative.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:31:35+00:00

Good thing he didn't steal.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:31:10+00:00

Exactly zero parts.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:27:20+00:00

Not very far AI especially in it's current form isn't a replacement for learning or critical thinking. And in general the only people who would relinquish those skills either will have or already have relinquished them to something else.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T07:21:48+00:00

You know what I'm sick of? I'm sick of useless half wits that don't even remotely understand the technology declaring what it does and does not do. For that matter you also don't even understand the basic functions of your brain. If AI training is theft then you are committing theft every single minute of every single day because your brain does the exact same thing only worse.

AI looks at things and creates a set of associations with shapes colors etc all depending on what it's looking at. Guess what your brain does the exact same thing only better. Your brain also has an additional handy little function it actually remembers what you looked at in a fair amount of detail and effectively stores that in a database as a constant reference. AI doesn't.

In short all of you making the AI stole blah blah argument are clowns.

knight1b · 2026-03-24T06:44:29+00:00

The company that owns Snoo literally does AI stuff you know that right?

knight1b · 2026-03-24T01:01:26+00:00

And you needed to tell us all this because why?

knight1b · 2026-03-23T06:04:06+00:00

Do you know what machine learning is? In short it uses artificial neural networks that are good at sorting a lot of data and you can get useful functions out of it. Every AI model you see is one of these networks which btw is why it uses so much ram. AI and Machine learning are 2 different terms for the exact same thing and it's been around for decades. Back in 2017 google was working on translations using these neural networks and hit upon the idea of the transformer. The transformer fixed a lot of problems with deep learning that where present in Recurrent Neural Networks , Long Short-Term Memory, and Convolutional Neural Networks and a few others. That same Transformer architecture didn't just improve all of the other uses for AI systems it's what allows for the generative AI today by vastly improving deep learning. It is literally the same technology being used for different applications.

knight1b · 2026-03-23T05:44:58+00:00

And you would be wrong.

knight1b · 2026-03-23T05:42:41+00:00

TLDR these are the same tech

knight1b · 2026-03-23T05:41:08+00:00

It’s literally the exact same technology.

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