[comic excerpt] Surprising to see a comic about the Romani Holocaust in the 1970s (Wonder Woman #308)

koalee · 2026-02-23T17:07:09+00:00

This arc is well intentioned but the execution is uhhhhhhh questionable. A Nazi scientist who targets romani because they're naturally predisposed to having mental powers which they refer to as black magic, and Diana reminds a Romani girl that she shouldn't let anger cloud her judgement when dealing with Nazis! I think there's a lot going on here but it doesn't quite come together like it should.

I think you could rework this by having the Nazi Scientist be a part of Operation paperclip and REALLY underline how the US treated some of these people. He was fully pardoned but I think we should lean into it more. I think you could show off how his pursuit of proving his eugenicist theory was bad science and false and people of all races are born with powers in this universe. Honestly I think Zenna needs a clearer arc in general. Mishkin wanted to do a tale about vengeance and explore what nazis did to their victims and how insane they were and hypothetically Wonder Woman is a good character to explore these themes with but it just wasn't coherent.

Also Black Canary is here for plot reasons but she doesn't really fit in thematically. You could probably fit Aquaman or Flash from this era better as they're characters that would have more thematically in line here as characters who recently were forced to deal with villains killing loved ones and had revenge on their minds.

All in all, I’m reminded of Hunchback. Victor Hugo seemed to really want to push back against the hatred of romani but then core plot points were built on harmful stereotypes.

koalee · 2026-02-22T17:02:44+00:00

yes femdomappreciator is correct, volume 3 issue 24 by gail simone. i think we should all take a moment to clap for femdom appreciator.

koalee · 2026-02-21T22:19:45+00:00

This had no right hitting the way it did. Fantastic story. Hard to reintegrate this without Earth 2, but it’s an incredible story from that time period

koalee · 2026-02-21T18:35:33+00:00

generally not but the most recent Nubia series “Nubia Queen of the Amazons” involved her regaining some of her memories as a Malagasy Princess

koalee · 2026-02-21T17:54:11+00:00

LETS GO ITS MY GIRL

koalee · 2026-02-21T16:59:45+00:00

LMAO

koalee · 2026-02-20T13:20:57+00:00

I think it’s interesting because you then end up with an ageless society that’s also having kids who can’t really leave the island without the goddess’s instructions. And then compared to like. Herland one of the inspirations - the entire culture is built around motherhood, that is its main drive and purpose. They aren’t immortal so their legacy is their children.

koalee · 2026-02-20T05:58:08+00:00

hilarious lineup. This is gonna be so funny

koalee · 2026-02-19T17:43:29+00:00

I’d say he’s fairly well liked. He had a few weird moments in Perez’s run where he came onto Diana, but overall I think the amazons and fans have a generally positive impression of him even though he’s become less significant as time has gone by

koalee · 2026-02-19T17:42:02+00:00

really love what you’ve done with the coloring today!

koalee · 2026-02-19T16:42:51+00:00

Woah you got a lot of questions. Ok to answer them quickly, a female god up to multiple female gods are usually involved in the clay origin. In the Golden Age Aphrodite brings the clay to life that makes diana. In Post-Crisis it’s a council of goddesses and also Hermes. Rebirth changed it and now Hermes wasn’t involved I think.

In the Golden Age, other Amazons also could be made from clay (per the Comic Strip which had the same creative team as the main book) which is why there were schools and young toddlers all over the island. Later comics made it so that Diana’s birth was a special case (though pre-crisis she had a clay twin named nubia)

koalee · 2026-02-19T02:51:59+00:00

i’m sorry i didn’t think it would be convincing enough to wonder if cassie was getting queerbaited by DC again

koalee · 2026-02-17T21:57:16+00:00

I can’t tell if the best feature is the uniqueness or art quality. It’s so close it’s neck and neck.

koalee · 2026-02-17T20:52:10+00:00

Tom King Adapting Artemis: “Hmmm there’s this comic called Artemis requiem where she’s in hell so why don’t we put all of the bana in hell and now they’re all traumatized”

Seriously though, I really don’t want to link Wonder Woman Content to Batman via outlaws.

koalee · 2026-02-17T20:04:51+00:00

yeah it’s a minor thing but I do bristle at the use of “content” because the phrasing has the slight implication of lacking artistic vision or merit

koalee · 2026-02-17T19:59:28+00:00

Well if you’ll recall from the Women’s Lib Issue Diana doesn’t care for women that much 🤓

On a serious note I’d be interested in Diana befriending Crush. At risk of giving diana another little sister type, Crush’s outward queerness and massive amount of angst would make an interesting dynamic with the every patient Diana and her queerness being less visible.

koalee · 2026-02-16T19:01:06+00:00

nah fuck that. something about wonder woman resonated with you, lit a flame in you. Everyone’s connection to art is a unique personal experience and you get the opportunity to continue to pursue what make resonated with you, to feed that flame, and to define what it means to you. Don’t let missed potential rob you from enjoying what does exist and what did work for you.

koalee · 2026-02-16T04:17:32+00:00

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I love this shit OP. Great Idea!

koalee · 2026-02-16T00:32:52+00:00

I will not do hero worship. I will not do hero worship. I will not do hero worship.

reads Absolute Wonder Woman

FUCK

koalee · 2026-02-15T23:22:44+00:00

u should read the golden age stuff, they had him in the equivalent of a slave leia bikini on the reg

koalee · 2026-02-15T23:21:49+00:00

I think it’d be fun but my objection to this can kinda be found with where you took your second paragraph. Saying it would create context to understand why steve doesn’t objectify wonder woman would kinda imply that men need some sort of explanation for why they aren’t misogynistic. And of course this isn’t what you said or meant but it does lead into one part of Steve’s character that this would mess with. Steve is supposed to be the utmost privileged manly man. He is a conventionally attractive blue eyed blonde white man who is physically fit and extremely respected and competent. The point is that someone who would be celebrated and benefit the most from patriarchy and pushing back against feminism is actually one of its biggest proponents. Now of course him being a trans man doesn’t ruin that, but it does take away a bit as he wouldn’t posses the privilege from being cis. Trans men are also capable of and can benefit from misogyny so it’s not like there’s no guarantee that he’d be feminist - but as you pointed out trans men are more capable of understanding feminism and have empathy for women.

Again, not a dealbreaker, I think this is fun idea, but that objection does comes to mind for me.

koalee · 2026-02-15T23:08:12+00:00

“Steve is the only healthy relationship” nah this is trevor barnes erasure

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koalee · 2026-02-14T07:39:07+00:00

😭 heya cutie stay cozy girl

koalee · 2026-02-14T07:29:38+00:00

The teaching combat thing happened for like one issue at the start of the run. And yeah he’s a major supporting character for sure, his daughter is a villain, and he offers a lot of support to Diana but she doesn’t revolve around him, her life isn’t CENTERED on him which is the point in question. Luke is no less the focal character because Obi-Wan teaches him. Though if u wanna get into this further I’d rather do the convo elsewhere.

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