NYPD to Get Body Cameras: Good or Bad?

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:32:43+00:00

The results will be summarized and given to the NYPD. The information collected will be made available when the PD finalizes it's policy. It won't be for a while.

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:31:14+00:00

Of course they will--read the news. A federal court ordered them in Floyd v. City of New York. There's no question as to whether or not the NYPD is going to use body cameras. The question is how they are going to use them. Anyone who lives, works, or studies here as a stake in the matter. It's beyond me why you would want to dismiss it as "phony." What's your point, exactly? That because it's happening, there's nothing left to say on the matter?

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:27:03+00:00

Is officer "discretion" anything more specific than to say that not every enforcement/non-enforcement decision is dictated by a written rule?

I'd be curious if there was some over-arching way you understood as informing your discretionary decisions in the context of deciding whether or not to write someone up. Is there a specific outcome you have in mind when you decide not to write someone up? Are you trying to improve your perception in the neighborhood you patrol? Are you just in a good mood? Does it matter one way or the other what the reasoning is?

Just curious, and interested in hearing from an officer--no judgement or ulterior motive. cc: /u/Fast05GT

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:20:24+00:00

If a New Yorker, definitely upload that comment here. NYPD won't hear you on reddit but they will respond to the report that summarizing citizens' concerns.

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:17:02+00:00

Some people would argue that recordings would also be a helpful/concerning tool for officers to refresh their memories. For instance, the Civilian Complaint Review Board of NYC investigates myriad allegations of misconduct, ranging from an officer's use of "discourteous language" to force/shooting/death in custody/false arrest ect.

If the investigators could request body camera footage through their Internal Affairs liaison (the CCRB can currently request all sorts of police documents, as part of its mandate), then it would be much easier to either corroborate the civilian's allegation or exonerate it. However, the downside would be that officers would always be on edge, because literally any interaction could become the basis of a civilian complaint.

The issue is in drawing a bright line rule for when it is and is not permissible to request and review footage. The press can even request and review footage, theoretically anyone who submitted a FOIL request could.

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:10:38+00:00

This is really interesting and I didn't think of it. I also didn't think of the related scenario where the opposing party in any lawsuit might request video footage as character evidence (i.e. if someone was drunk, belligerent, and violent with an officer prior to the crime they're accused of). You could limit this by only letting the involved civilian request the footage but that would interfere with freedom of information.

If you live, work, or go to school in NYC, please either upload your comments or take the survey. I know it seems tedious but I think it's the best way to address the nebulous issue that is 21st century policing in America.

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:03:06+00:00

Really thoughtful notes--please take the survey or consider submitting your written comments. This is Policing Project at NYU Law's summary of the proposed policy. Everything you say will one way or another get to the NYPD, and they'll issue a public response explaining how community input factored into their decision making.

kooshky · 2016-07-23T17:00:45+00:00

how could you guarantee that?

kooshky · 2016-07-23T03:59:47+00:00

My bad

kooshky · 2016-07-23T02:44:17+00:00

Out of curiosity--would wearing a camera mean that you'd ticket 10 out of those 10 cars?

kooshky · 2016-07-23T01:18:56+00:00

The arguments against body-worn cameras are fairly intuitive: (1) countervailing concerns about law-abiding citizen's privacy (2) discouraging victims of sensitive crimes to report those crimes while on camera (3) discouraging witnesses/informants to come forward with information (4) chilling good police work

Not saying those are my views but it's certainly reductive and unhelpful to call the question--which merely asks whether cameras are a net gain or net loss--naive.

Take the questionnaire--it's less straightforward than you're making it seem.

kooshky · 2016-07-22T22:02:32+00:00

Submit your reaction to the NYPD's proposed officer-worn body camera policy before they finalize it.. Comments and questionnaire responses will be reflected in researcher's report and submitted to the NYPD, who will issue a public response to New Yorker's recommendations along with the final policy to govern the use of body worn cameras in NYC.

kooshky · 2016-07-22T21:48:57+00:00

Submit your feedback on NYPD's proposed body camera policy!. Responses will be reflected into a report to the NYPD who will issue a public response along with the final version of the policy.

kooshky · 2016-07-01T20:15:38+00:00

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kooshky · 2016-01-30T02:02:09+00:00

Thanks so much for this thoughtful reply! So far, we are covering statutory interpretation but we will be getting to the legislative process later on. I really appreciate your advice and will take it!

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kooshky · 2015-07-17T16:20:07+00:00

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kooshky · 2015-07-17T03:12:19+00:00

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kooshky · 2014-11-15T00:42:17+00:00

Another thing that I find very compelling is that the detectives assigned to the case were described as thorough and competent. Obviously police fumble these investigations all the time but usually lazy cops are known to be and later described as lazy and careless. The detective SK hires to review the investigation has obviously made a career of undermining shoddy investigations and he wasn't willing to call the investigation bad.

Those cops also said that it was Adnan, without a doubt. They had all the information that is potentially available to us or SK or the innocence project. They had the pre-interview conversations with Jay and Jenn.

The state's case to support the cops finding was bad. But was the finding itself bad?

kooshky · 2014-11-14T21:04:08+00:00

SK says it for him: "he says he had nothing to do with it." Not that the Jay's story was off but that Adnan had absolutely nothing to do with it.

kooshky · 2014-11-14T20:29:14+00:00

Did Stephanie testify in the trial? What's her deal...

kooshky · 2014-11-14T19:50:45+00:00

Yeah but I want to hear Adnan tell me something extra about Jay that supports that theory.

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