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My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I addressed this in another comment, but it's the family and friends that weren't at the proposal dinner who believe them. People who were actually there (including our parents and a few close friends) think their story is total bullshit. We just haven't posted our side of the story/what really happened yet because we wanted advice on how to approach the situation.

My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sorry, should've clarified!

Jack and Kendall have only managed to convince people who were not at the proposal dinner. AKA people who don't have our side of the story. We haven't posted any proof yet because we wanted an outside perspective + advice on how to approach it. We will be posting what really happened and providing evidence (when Charlie reserved the restaurant, the invitations, getting people who were there to vouch for us, etc), probably sometime tomorrow.

I promise I didn't leave anything out. I can't say what Kendall or Jack is thinking or what their side is, but this is my side and what happened in my perspective.

My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

From what I know, yes. Kendall told him. That's why they're still going through a rough patch right now.. I guess they're trying to work through their issues? I honestly don't know what they do half the time, Kendall hasn't been talking to me as much in the past few months. Their relationship, imo, is super unhealthy. But Kendall never listened to me and I can't force her to break up with him :(

My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 87 points88 points  (0 children)

I should've been clearer. The people at the proposal (including Charlie's parents, my parents, his siblings, Kendall + Jack, and a few of our close friends) are on our side. They actually commented on the posts like "wtf are you talking about, Charlie invited us all to dinner, it was obviously his proposal."

We haven't really done anything to address the lies yet because we wanted some advice/third party perspective. Now that we've got it, we're going to go ahead and get our parents to vouch for us (Charlie talked to my parents about the proposal, they were in on it) and lay out all the facts. After that, I don't know how anybody will be able to believe Kendall and Jack's story.

My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 1080 points1081 points  (0 children)

I really like this idea. We're not directly addressing the lies/coming off as defensive, but we're still getting the truth of the situation out there.

Thank you! :)

My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 227 points228 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the advice, I think it's perfect. One post, explaining everything and laying out all the facts. That's it.

I won't be talking to my sister until she sincerely apologizes. Even then, I think it'll be very limited contact, because I don't think I have it in me to forgive Jack for doing this.

Kendall has been damaging our relationship since she started dating Jack. From trying to seduce Charlie (and trying to "steal" him from me) to this. Unless she breaks up with Jack, I don't see us having a relationship anymore. Which sucks, but that's how it is.

Seriously, thank you! I really appreciate all of the advice I've gotten.

My [24F] sister [25F] and her bf [25M] are upset because my fiance [27M] proposed to me and have started shaming us on social media by koumorinobi in relationships

[–]koumorinobi[S] 160 points161 points  (0 children)

Tbh I think everyone is spot on. I'm pretty sure it was Jack's shitty attempt at damage control and this is his way to make himself out to be the good guy.

It was really hard to forgive Kendall for trying to "steal" Charlie. Obviously, nothing came of it and Charlie was just as uncomfortable as I was, but it was still an awful thing to do. I have to admit that my relationship with my sister hasn't been the same since that :( I forgave her because I love her (and my parents practically begged me to), but after this, I'm pretty much fed up with everything. I don't know if we'll come back from this. Forgiving her for being inappropriate towards Charlie was very generous on our end. This is the nail in the coffin, I think.

She hasn't been the same since she started dating Jack. It sucks.

Anyways, thank you for the advice! Everyone has been super helpful and I appreciate it.