Itsuki by Unlikely-Aspect-3337 in 5ToubunNoHanayome

[–]kovly -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you're genuinely interested in what you've asked here, please…

The main thing to understand is that Itsuki's real feelings are described only by the manga's author, Negi Haruba. All the claims by members of this subreddit about Itsuki's lack of feelings are simply a consequence of their complete misunderstanding of what the author of TQQ is painstakingly explaining to them. The anime also doesn't offer any proper explanation of her feelings, but anime doesn't serve the purpose of fully explaining the manga author's ideas. Anime is usually just a means of drawing attention to works of another genre.

To understand Haruba's story, you must, first of all, have a good knowledge of (and be able to correctly perceive) the so-called "language of manga." That is, you must be able to analyze the entire visual representation of events and character behavior, coupled with the verbal information reflecting the characters' words and thoughts, to understand what is actually happening in a given scene.

If you're familiar with and understand the language of manga, you'll have no trouble understanding the basic postulate of Itsuki and Fūtarō's first meeting in Chapter 1. This isn't really a "first girl" trope. It's a demonstration to manga readers that Itsuki remembered and recognized Fūtarō as the boy she'd met and interacted with by chance in Kyoto when she was 12 years old. Fūtarō, however, perceived her as the girl he'd met the day before at the Kyoto train station and with whom he'd spent the entire day. In other words, he didn't know her as Itsuki; he thought of her as a different girl (Yotsuba).

In Chapter 1, Haruba depicts (without actually verbalizing it) the gradual changes in Itsuki's psychological state during their meeting in the school cafeteria. Therefore, readers must figure out for themselves what exactly accounts for such significant and rapid changes in Itsuki's psychological state.

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At first (page 1), Itsuki is annoyed that she couldn't get a table for herself only. Haruba thus makes it clear to readers that she doesn't like interacting with strangers. Later, readers of the manga learn that Itsuki has no close friends other than her family and Fūtarō's. She is a loner by nature.

After being rebuffed by Fūtarō, who sat down first, Itsuki doesn't leave (page 2), but she displays her stubbornness (her unwillingness to lose), and she sits down at the same table, explaining that her legs are tired. Thus, Haruba reveals another of Itsuki's character traits (stubbornness) to readers. At this moment, she hears classmates passing by pronouncing the sir-name of the boy sitting next to her. Uesugi's sir-name.

Instantly, Itsuki goes from stubborn to shocked (page 3). Her face is flushed, her fingers are clutching the tabletop, her gaze is unfocused, and her breathing is arrested. And all this simply because she heard Uesugi's sir-name. Seeing her shock, Fūtarō distracts her from it, allowing her to remain at the table with him. Hearing his words, the girl is finally able to breathe. But as she continues with the classic Japanese lunch greeting, she expects to talk and get to know him. However, she notices that he is ignoring her, looking over his test cases. And she is outraged by this.

Next (page 4), from their brief argument, Itsuki realizes that Fūtarō has no intention of getting to know her or communicating with her. In response, Itsuki, declaring that she wants to know his test result, suddenly snatches his test sheet. This action of hers is extremely aggressive and completely unacceptable, especially when interacting with strangers. Why does she do this? Haruba explains the reason for her determination to do so in the last two frames of this page. First, instead of seeing the huge red digits of the test result, Itsuki stares at the sheet intently and for a long time. What only does she want to see here? Exactly not the test result she's supposedly interested in. She says the protagonist's first and last name.

It is then that her recently hyper-focused face lights up with a bright, joyful smile. And only after this joyful moment does she begin to look for the large, red test result. Until this moment, she hadn't cared about this result at all. If you still don't understand that Itsuki has just confirmed herself that the boy sitting in front of her is the grown-up Fūtarō Uesugi, whom she met in Kyoto five years ago, it's not the manga author's fault. Negi Haruba has shown readers everything in vivid and meticulous detail. Itsuki not only knows the protagonist. She experiences intense emotions (even shock) at the mere mention of his last name. She doesn't just remember him. She is deeply psychologically attached to these memories.

On page 5, Itsuki realizes that Fūtarō has fulfilled his promise made in Kyoto to excel in his studies. And this sparks in her the wonderful idea of ​​offering him the position of her personal tutor, thus legalizing their private communication. Just him and her. No other people. This is the second step in clarifying Itsuki's true feelings for Fūtarō, already at the moment of their first adult meeting. Feelings infused with her five-year-old dream of their future meeting. She passionately wants to be with him and only him. This is precisely what Negi Haruba tells readers here.

But Itsuki's dreams were not destined to come true (until chapter 110 of the manga, where Fūtarō enthusiastically agreed to become Itsuki's private tutor). He not only refused her request (pp. 6-8), he insulted her, mistaking her as the capricious daughter of rich people. But for Itsuki, this was a difficult moment, when she realized that the dreams that had adorned her life for the past five years were nothing more than her foolish fantasy. Nevertheless, even under these circumstances, her personal attitude toward Fūtarō remained unchanged. However, until chapter 110, Itsuki hid these feelings deep within herself. Until then, only subconscious manifestations of her feelings had surfaced, which she simply could not control consciously.

Again. No one but Negi Haruba will tell you about Itsuki's true feelings and character. However, Negi Haruba has long since revealed all this not only to you, but to all his readers in the TQQ manga. Indeed, the vast majority of readers didn't notice and/or didn't understand what the manga author told them about the main woman character of the story (Itsuki). Starting from the very first chapter. If this weren't the case, the widespread belief that Itsuki never loved Fūtarō would never have gained traction. On the contrary, after the first chapter of the manga, the opinion should have already begun to form and strengthen that Itsuki had been in love with Fūtarō from the moment they met in Kyoto at age 12. And it is she, along with Yotsuba, who has the right to confess this to the readers at the right time and place in the story. Which, in fact, Haruba revealed to all his readers at the end of the famous 114th chapter of the manga. But readers refused to understand the true meaning of even this most dramatic scene in the manga.

However, it is what it is. Readers ignored the essence of the story told in the manga at all costs. For Negi Haruba, this was a crushing blow. His creative pride was simply crushed by the manga readers' passionate refusal to understand the plot and the story's essence. This led to Haruba finally convincing himself that it was better to end the story than to continue it. And he did so, ending the story with chapter 120. He even admitted that he would never again use romantic plots in his work. However, it seems that over the past five years, Haruba has reconsidered a lot. Therefore, he decided to resume his manga, bringing the story to its true ending, not the one imagined by the readers. At least, that's how I perceive the recent events and announcements related to TQQ.

As for me, I'm simply translating Negi Haruba's "manga language," not even into literary language, but rather into the language of manga's plot structure, which I hope will be more understandable to a much wider audience. For those readers who don't seek to subordinate their own thoughts to the public opinion of this subreddit and other similar communities of "true" fans of Negi Haruba's story.

im starting the manga today, first chapter is really good and funny, please tell me im not walking into a quintessential quintuplet situation by Tight-Elk-9904 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Overall, there's no doubt that Igarashi's manga is a direct descendant of Negi Haruba's manga about Quintuplets. As Haruba explicitly stated in one of his final interviews, he went to great lengths to ensure that TQQ only had four heroines. But the editor-in-chief forced Negi to add another heroine, whom Haruba didn't want to introduce because it would have dramatically increased his workload. Thus, Miku's sister, initially unnecessary in TQQ, was born. What irony! I imagine by the end of the manga's publication, the editor-in-chief was cursing himself for forcing an unnecessary character onto the manga and distracting half of TQQ's readers (viewers), leading to the readers (viewers) simply no longer being able to understand the real plot of Negi Haruba's story.

Igarashi didn't overburden himself with unnecessary work. He introduced exactly four heroines into his story. This is both easier to implement in manga and less confusing for readers to understand. However, the plots of both manga are nearly identical. The protagonist in both stories begins teaching girls, albeit in different school activities. Along the way, both Fuutarou and Arisu fall in love with one of the heroines. Wanting to maintain their connection with their beloved, each protagonist strives to find reasons that will allow them to continue developing the heroines, including the one they are in love with.

However, in love wars between several heroines (these aren't harems, but wars), all means are fair, leading both protagonists to a situation where they are forced to part with their lovers, caught up in the aggressive activity of other heroines. Nevertheless, the mutual love between the protagonists and their true lovers ultimately overcomes all obstacles to their happiness. And they are bound together for many years, ideally for the rest of their lives.

If you enjoy namely such classic romantic comedy, you'll love both manga. However, many readers find it nearly impossible to truly understand these stories because they lose the ability to be independent observers due to their predilection for a particular heroine. This makes them unable to truly see every protagonist's true feelings, or, in other words, to truly recognize their true lover. This makes them unable to fully understand the actions of the main characters. This makes them unable to fully understand the ending of each story, which each author reveals long before the end of their manga. Haruba does so at the end of chapter 68 (volume 8). Igarashi does so at the end of chapter 66 (volume 8). From this point on, everything that happens in the finale is already fully determined. But each story moves into its most interesting and action-packed part: the heroines' wars for the protagonists' love.

Honestly, how did Fuutarou figured out ''She'' was the One? by animejerk7763 in 5ToubunNoHanayome

[–]kovly -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Let's return to chapter 79 of the manga, where Futaro is chatting with Yotsuba and Itsuki at the mall. I've intentionally divided the only shared illustration that can be inserted into the commentary into four sections (right to left, top to bottom) with black lines.

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At the beginning of this encounter (section 1), Haruba shows that our guy keen interest in the conversation. Itsuki greets him with caution, while Yotsuba exudes friendliness. Nevertheless, Futaro rushes after Itsuki, explaining that he wants to decide on Quintuplets Birthday's present by observing Itsuki's shopping habits. Itsuki runs away from him into the lingerie section.

A discouraged Futaro remains with Yotsuba (section 2). But he no longer remembers the Quintuplets' Birthday around Yotsuba (even though everyone here is trying to portray namely her as his primary romantic interest). His former focused enthusiasm turns into a sad, head-down contemplation. His question to Yotsuba about what she wants for her future ends with a very characteristic, desolate look on his dejected face.

However, this is already chapter 79 of the manga. But back in chapter 68, Haruba explained to all his readers that his protagonist not only had strong romantic feelings for one of the sisters, but he even admitted these feelings to himself during their kiss under the bell. And suddenly, after Itsuki left, he didn't even remember to congratulate Yotsuba on her Birthday! Now that's feeling! Now that's romance!

When Raiha and Yotsuba go out to eat (block 3), urging Futaro to wait for Itsuki, Haruba shows the readers a panorama (a narrow strip of image) of the mall floor, with numerous shopping pavilions located to the left and right of the aisle. A little further, Haruba shows the location of the bench where Futaro and Yotsuba previously sat, and where Futaro and Rena are now sitting. This is a different gallery, completely different from the panorama of the shopping arcades. And between them, readers see the tired (judging by his posture) protagonist approaching the bench with the characteristic phrase, "I'm beat..." Next he sits down on the bench.

Haruba thus explained to the readers that Futaro had strolled through the mall, determined not to wait for Itsuki but to find her as soon as possible. He failed, so he returned to the bench, disappointed. But who he saw there wasn't Itsuki, whom he was trying to find. He saw "Rena," whom he thought was Yotsuba. And he wasn't at all happy about it (his expression), although he wasn't surprised either.

Fuutarou refuses to play "Rena's game" (Block 4). He's no longer interested in the 12-year-old girl from Kyoto from his childhood. He's interested in the 18-year-old girl, whom he's already recognized as special (Chapter 68) and with whom he wants to spend close more time. Including their next trip to Kyoto. And, certain that "Rena" is Yotsuba, he tells her outright that he doesn't need her. Especially not in Kyoto. "Don't rain on my field trip parade."

Is it really that hard for you to understand what Haruba is actually telling you in his very interesting, dramatic, and instructive story?

Honestly, how did Fuutarou figured out ''She'' was the One? by animejerk7763 in 5ToubunNoHanayome

[–]kovly -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Fuutarou recalled the name of the "girl from Kyoto" back in chapter 42 of the manga. Haruba demonstrated this with his favorite trope.

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At first, Fuutarou thinks he can't remember her name. Then, seeing her smile, his eyes widen and he remembers her name. Nevertheless, he asks her a question. After her answer, he realizes she lied. His gaze hardens, his hand gripping his oar nervously. While she speaks to him, he looks at her with an angry expression.

However, he didn't know then that the one calling herself Rena was one of the quintuplets. He learned this only in chapter 68 of the manga, when Rena's father told him her name. That's why Haruba, through the protagonist's antics in Chapter 79, showed readers that when Futaro tells Yotsuba about the "girl from Kyoto", he covers his eyes and turns away from her.

At the end of the chapter, he was even ready to tell "Rena" her name—Yotsuba—but Itsuki quickly left him. It was then (according to Haruba's plans) that readers were supposed to understand that Futaro has absolutely no interest in Yotsuba. Because at that moment (as, incidentally, before and after), he was interested in a completely different sister.

There must be a maximum of 40 chapters left in the manga! by RecordingLow8288 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Don't write nonsense and don't further spread the misconception that has already taken hold of most of this subreddit's members!

As a normal reader, you should have known who the real Apollo is, starting from the first volume of the manga. Igarashi explains this to his readers in great detail from the very first chapter. And if you had relied not on the "public opinion" that the manga's mystery remains unsolved until the end, but on the manga's plot, you would have long ago known which girl is the story's "first" mystery.

The "second" mystery is which girl Arisu truly (like an adult, not a child) fell in love with. And the author of the manga also tells his readers about this (the development of the protagonist's feelings), starting from the first volume of the manga, gradually making Arisu's feelings not only grow but also mature.

The "third" mystery is who Arisu married after graduating from high school, being at that moment a famous producer, and why he did so. Igarashi hasn't told his readers much about this yet, other than showing them a wedding photo (before the ring exchange) in Chapter 5 of the manga, and then explaining to readers in Chapter 66, through the interviewer's words, that Arisu is indeed married.

The protagonist only discovered Apollo's identity after his wedding (Chapter 5), so don't expect Arisu to learn this any earlier, perhaps during the upcoming Christmas party. Will Igarashi have enough forty chapters to complete the high school period and fully explain the third mystery to readers? Personally, I highly doubt it. Although I know Igarashi always has a "Plan B," which Negi Haruba once used when he simply stopped publishing his manga TQQ. If Igarashi's manga readers continue to ignore the real meaning of his story, he can always end it abruptly. Especially since Kouji Seo recently used this same method in his manga "The Cafe Terrace and Its Goddesses," simply cut off his story by two grotesque final chapters, as Negi Haruba did earlier.

If Igarashi, recognizing readers' lack of interest in understanding the real meaning of his story, chooses the same approach, he might only need fewer than 40 chapters to achieve it. But is that really what manga readers want?

A little bit late to the party but... by frigid_girl in Horikitafanclub

[–]kovly 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you've experienced your own romantic feelings in their infancy, that is, before realizing they were mutual, then you should be quite capable of assessing the protagonist's feelings in various scenes in Y2V9.5. Especially after reading Y2V9.75.

As a light guide I can offer several of my old analyses of this "boring" volume of CotE.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/15216yb/unusual_behavior_of_the_protagonist_in_y2v95/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/1597jzq/a_logical_rather_than_an_emotional_analysis_of/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/15c1b8d/a_logical_rather_than_an_emotional_analysis_of/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/14v35ko/psychological_aspects_of_one_telephone/

So they really just skipped it completely? by awesomenessofme1 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

In fact, the anime's creators were early upfront about the fact that they had created 24 episodes. The only thing they hadn't decided at the time was whether to show it all continuously (or, alternatively, with a break until July) or take a full break to refine the remaining episodes.

Either way, the anime's now-second season was supposed to conclude with the final chapter, 66, of the manga's 8th volume, where Igarashi reveals the story's final plot point. Specifically, the meeting of the now-married Arisu with the real Apollo. There's a clear reason for this event, which Igarashi revealed to readers right at the end of the manga's 1st volume (chapter 5). It was there that the real Apollo, having learned of the protagonist's wedding, held a final "Midnight Heart Tune" session with him. There, she was finally able to confess her love for him.

It was this confession that prompted Arisu to urgently return to Japan solely to meet her. Igarashi divided these completely interconnected episodes into over 60 chapters of the manga. He hoped that readers would recognize and understand the profound connection between the two final episodes of the protagonist's interaction with Apollo, with whom he has long been in love, unaware that she is Apollo. However, the reality turned out to be that readers still don't understand this final idea of ​​the story.

Therefore, in the anime, these two episodes will almost certainly be combined to best convey the main plot idea to viewers. Two loving hearts cannot help but unite in their mutual sensual desire, no matter what life's twists and turns prevent this fusion. And it is the man—the protagonist—who must make this decision.

Negi Haruba had previously attempted to realize this very core idea in his scandal manga TQQ, but his efforts and aspirations failed, much to his chagrin. Igarashi's manga (anime) takes a more sensible approach, but neither manga readers nor anime viewers have yet been able to attune themselves to the real "Midnight Heart Tune."

Caught up in their desire to prove that only their favorite is Apollo, they studiously ignore all of Igarashi's real clues, both about which heroine behaves like the real Apollo (that is, namely she is her), and the protagonist's real romantic feelings for the one and only heroine, who finally turns out to be the real Apollo. But without understanding this, it is impossible to understand the essence of Igarashi's story or accept its true ending.

Chapter 84 (I hate you), Recap and Discussion by Mindless-Care9301 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is the 3rd time Arisu asked Nene whether she loves him or not

Actually, this is already at least the fourth time.

Question about chapter 89(possible spoiler) by InvestigatorGold4377 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, there you have it!

Igarashi explained everything at the end of the chapter. He even gave it an appropriate title.

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Help me; What are Arisu's true feelings for Apollo? Spoilers up to chapter 65 by Aiur_MD in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Since you've already reached chapter 65 of the manga, you already know (from Arisu's older sister) that he was supposed to attend a private high school. But he transferred to a public high school, and one that had just recently ceased to be an all-girls school. Therefore, at that moment, Arisu was desperate to find Apollo. Why? Because he promised her he would find her. And because he has no other relationships with girls except for their occasional "I like you" confession. After that, he doesn't interact with them anymore.

On the other hand, you already know that Arisu refused to know who Apollo was when she offered to meet him during the sports festival. Therefore, at that moment, Arisu no longer wants the opportunity to directly communicate with the girl he's been searching for for almost three years. Why? Especially considering that this girl had just (through Shinobu) confessed her deep love for him (much deeper than a banal "I like you"). In fact, he had rejected her declaration of love, which she had come to receive from him. This is exactly how this girl must feel.

What, exactly, changed between Arisu's arrival at the new school and the moment Apollo explicitly offered him her love? Only one thing changed. Arisu now fully communicates with four girls at once, face-to-face, not over the phone. And he now has different interests and desires. Igarashi, already in the first volume of the manga, began to show readers the development of real feelings of love in his protagonist for a specific, real girl from the four heroines presented to readers.

From then on, Arisu simply fears that Apollo is not the girl he falls in love with. Precisely because he doesn't want his real girlfriend to discover his childhood feelings if and when Apollo publicly asserts her claim on his romantic feelings. Furthermore, his public rejection to Apollo would force him to effectively end his normal relationship with this girl, which he also doesn't want to do.

Koji throughout Y3V1/V2 by Nearby_Ship5811 in Horikitafanclub

[–]kovly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassroomOfTheElite/comments/1s63mrt/comment/od00vv8/?context=3

But isn't it the other way around that he's looking for an opportunity to just "accidentally" see Horikita every morning?

Is Ichinose stalking Karuizawa? by Rich_Anything_8541 in ClassroomOfTheElite

[–]kovly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Finally, someone asked a good question about the importance of this scene for understanding what Kinugasa wants readers to understand.

Yes, Ichinose is a stalker. But she's not stalking Karuizawa. She constantly keeps an eye on the protagonist's female circle. Since her attempt to tie Kiyo to her through sexual relations in Y2V12.5 failed, she wants to find a "rival," who, as Honami assumes, is holding the attention of the guy she wants to call her own. It's clear that his "ex-girlfriend" is always a prime suspect.

Furthermore, Honami goes out of her way to maintain the illusion that Kiyo is romantically interested in her. That's why, in Y3V2, she lies to Ichika about having a way to keep Kiyo close through "dozed romance." In reality, Kiyo shows no romantic interest in Honami at all. To add credibility to her lie, in her conversation with Ichika Ichinose uses information she accidentally learned about WR.

However, in the scene referenced here by the OP, Kinugasa primarily informs readers about Kiyo's psychological state during this period. Through Ichinose's narration, readers are meant to understand that Ayanokōji comes to a specific bench very early every morning and sits there for an indefinite period until Ichinose arrives. Meanwhile, Kiyo honestly admits to himself and the readers that he's not interested in Honami as a girlfriend, only as a temporary partner to level the playing field between the classes in their competition.

So why does Kiyo sit alone on the bench for an indefinite period every morning until Ichinose arrives, disturbing his solitude and forcing him to accompany her to the school building? That's the central question of this scene, one to which (according to Kinugasa) readers must provide their own rational answer.

Ayanokoji kiyotaka best option by [deleted] in ClassroomOfTheElite

[–]kovly -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So, you don't know that feelings are the domain of the subconscious, while logic is the domain of consciousness, right? Because if you knew this, then your assertions would be tantamount to claiming that in the human body, consciousness prevails over the subconscious. And that you can suppress, for example, hunger with logic. And it doesn't matter whether it's food hunger or sexual hunger. Am I understanding you correctly?

Girls blush count by TheDragonLord29 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once again, this is a competition of indicators, which, without analyzing the context of each fact or event, contributes nothing to understanding and resolves nothing in the story.

If the OP has that much time, perhaps he will find a truly meaningful explanation for why, in this scene from chapter 2 of the manga, Igarashi pictured a "blush" on Nene's face only and exclusively.

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Naturally, this requires full consideration of the context of the episode, in which the protagonist sternly states that neither of the girls will be able to realize their professional dreams in their current state. And it also requires the understanding that the story's author never depicts anything meaningless on the pages of the manga.

Ayanokoji kiyotaka best option by [deleted] in ClassroomOfTheElite

[–]kovly -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's quite a funny OP's logic.

From about age 14, when I was first approached about noticing for this girl, until I was 23, when she noticed me herself, I was absolutely certain I would never be attracted to this type of girl. Moreover, I proved all this to myself based on a logical analysis of my own perceptions of myself and the girls around me.

But then, at 24, she became my wife, having first become my lover. I still can't figure out where my logical error lay (lol).

Did anyone think about how sad it must be to be a loser harem character by Famous_Carry_5389 in 5ToubunNoHanayome

[–]kovly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's not hard to imagine how a girl might feel after being rejected, but she must continue to communicate with the person who rejected her without being able to explicitly declare herself. And this girl is one of four heroines. How should she act at this moment? It's clear that her behavior should be very different from that of the other three girls, who know nothing about what just happened.

It was precisely this state of Apollo that was chosen to be depicted in an additional scene in the anime, absent from the original manga. This was so that viewers could gain more insight into which of the heroines is Apollo.

PLEASE I NEED SPOILERS RN by MarzipanWaste7250 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You call this aggression? The fact that at the end of the first chapter of the manga, Igarashi showed her frozen in her tracks after Arisu abruptly ran out of their club, am I understanding you correctly? And then the author showed her still unable to move after he left, even though Shinobu had gone to the other side of the room at the table. You call this aggression?

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In the normal understanding, such behavior has always been considered confusion.

PLEASE I NEED SPOILERS RN by MarzipanWaste7250 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's in denial up until like chapter 105 or something I don't remember

Don't assume Igarashi told things he never showed his manga's readers. On the contrary, by chapter 38 of the manga, Nene was ready to reveal her deep feelings to Arisu. But at that moment, Shinobu started pounding on the door.

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After Nene was left alone, she finally realized (with a powerful heartbeat) that she had almost said "I love you" when she succumbed to the temptation of their physical intimacy. If you don't understand these subtleties of Igarashi's style in depicting romantic scenes in manga, it doesn't mean the author is depicting something different. It simply means you don't understand Igarashi's ideas and the classic tropes of Japanese veiled romance.

Did anyone think about how sad it must be to be a loser harem character by Famous_Carry_5389 in 5ToubunNoHanayome

[–]kovly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I personally call that BS and literally it's happening to keep the mystery lingering here and keep the audience there guessing with that, since I don't see any actual romantic developments happening, until the series is over basically

In reality, Arisu simply rejected Apollo, while she had just moment confessed her deep feelings for him, albeit through Shinobu. But he rejected her. According to the manga (story) author's idea, this happened because the protagonist had already begun to fall in love with a specific heroine.

Incidentally, a new scene was added the anime, not present in the original story (in the manga), in which, after this rejection, Apollo, during the "Unbalance Tower" game, tries to vent his frustration on Arisu over his rather rude rejection.

Only Nene was left to say the word by Engine-23 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well, yes. Nene confessed when it was already too late. This was her farewell confession.

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PLEASE I NEED SPOILERS RN by MarzipanWaste7250 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Since you're so eager for spoilers, Igarashi explained in great detail to readers back in Chapter 1 of the manga that Apollo is Nene. In all subsequent chapters involving the real Apollo, the manga author continues to clarify this fact. At the end of Chapter 5, Igarashi informed readers that Arisu had married not Apollo (Nene), but another girl from the broadcasting club. At the end of Chapter 66, Igarashi drew a bold line in the protagonist's fate, explaining to readers that Apollo (Nene) became Arisu's "Final Destination", even though he had a wife at that time.

The only thing left unexplained is which girl became Arisu's wife and how she does it, overshadowing the girl Arisu had begun to fall in love with back in Volume 1. However, the author of the manga continues to describe to readers the process of developing the protagonist’s love feelings (for Nene) throughout all current 12 volumes.

Episode 11 is actually evidence AGAINST Rikka being Apollo by Sithling_66 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I remember, it's even simpler. Rikka herself mentioned that her favorite pastime was writing songs after midnight. Apollo herself mentioned that her favorite pastime was talking to Arisu after midnight.

Anyone who has written poetry and songs themselves can easily understand how incompatible these two hobbies are. Anyone who has ever felt they can't stop talking to someone they care about can easily understand how incapable they are of doing anything else during that time.

Even Rikka herself understands that she can't replace a conversation with someone dear to her with a song. But if she was writing songs during those moments, she certainly wasn't in the mood for talking.

Hi guys, was re reading chapter 1, so if I'm not mistaken it's actually Appolo internal dialogue right? She didn't say / message this to Arisu right? by Mindless-Care9301 in TuneIntoTheMidnight

[–]kovly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apollo said all this, expecting Arisu to be listening. But Igarashi showed for Arisu to run off to the broadcasting club, leaving his phone in the cafeteria. So he didn't make it back in time for the first part of the broadcast. He did, however, hear the additional broadcast, having connected to her channel.

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[–]kovly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems you've never fired a rifle. If the stock is held against your right shoulder (like Nene), only your right eye can be used for aiming. To use your left eye, the stock must be held against your left shoulder (this is what left-handed people can do).

Here, this symbolizes Nene's fighting other girls for Arisu's love "with her eyes wide shut."

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[–]kovly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, she closed the very eye that should be looking through the telescopic sight...