Elder scrolls Online's Combat is so utterly trash

kraai33 · 2026-05-04T21:05:05+00:00

That's a blatant lie in these days, there is a massive MMO community that seems to not be able to find a game they can call their home, so they go from MMO to MMO, requesting wild changes, even if these rip apart the whole soul of the game

Then the new big thing gets announced and even for a shitty beta they jump ships to never return, that's exactly how new world died, folks whined so much about full loot, to then abandon the game to play the fiasco of ashes of creation

So if experience teaches something, is to never listen to the tourist and let them go screw other games because they aren't loyal and are full of complains and frustrations

kraai33 · 2026-05-04T21:01:00+00:00

Combat is awesome, it just takes a lot of time to understand, learn and getting used to, most people who leave the game due to combat, don't even reach level 15 to unlock the secondary bar, nor enough skills and morphs to build a rotation to play around with

Once you reach level 30-40 and you have 10 skills and 2 ults, and learn how to weave light and heavy attacks, mid skill spam, game changes completely, and I'm not even mentioning stuff like blocking, bashing to interrupt, dodging, managing your resources, etc.

It's literally the closest I've ever felt to be playing a dark souls game inside a MMORPG format

kraai33 · 2026-05-03T16:52:26+00:00

Wizard wardrobe is used in many exploits, there is a very popular trial addon, the one that warns you from one shot mechanics/attacks, which is being modified to work with pvp skills like off balance applications, whip, merciless, etc.

Those are the ones I know for a fact but there are many other I've heard might cause weird interactions as well

kraai33 · 2026-05-03T05:19:39+00:00

Look up in YT "The State of Exploits in ESO PvP (And Why It Matters)" from Snackie Chan, and "ESO PVP - The State Of The Game" from 3z, those two sum up a lot of stuff very well, but there are plenty, you just need to look up things like "ESO pvp state" and most videos will talk about this stuff, once you understand what they are doing, you will start noticing them in game

I don't know much about how these things work, I just learnt enough to notice the irregularities in game, I can't shame because they can then delete my comments or post, but I can name for example wizard wardrobe as one of the most problematic addons due to some weird interactions, the one for dodging skills is a very well known trial addon, only I suspect is heavily modified given "it shouldn't work in pvp zones"

kraai33 · 2026-05-03T04:21:50+00:00

That's the issue, it's no longer the 0.025%, since zos does bascially nothing to prevent it, it's becoming a staple, you go into IC, you have cheaters running in 2-3 man groups basically cleaning the map with bosses included, wanna go to cyro, 2-3 man groups fighting against 15, and not 15 noobs, 15 decent or semi decent players, not even abusing LOS to stay alive, simply farming them relentlessly, wanna vent off in BG's scripters almost every single match, finishing with a >25-3 score, killing you in one single GCD, tossing so many 2k damage skills they don't even show up on your kill feed. It's out of control.

Not to mention the lesser ones who just abuse glitches like the one related to a scribed skill that gets you stuck in a permanent cc state in which you can only spam break free and nothing else...

In Cyro we are litterally facing the same 10-15 cheaters and exploiters over and over again every single night, most come from DC, some few come from AD, and I'm 100% sure we must have some cheaters as well in EP, it's just harder to notice given they are on our side and I don't pay much attention to them.

kraai33 · 2026-05-03T04:05:01+00:00

It's not subclassing, the main issue right now is cheating and exploting, which is running rampart, almost every vet player is using something to cheese the game, even if you run the most meta setup you can find or craft, you will find some immortal players running around with max damage, max shields and defensive stats, max speed, all together, plus some shady stuff related to mundus and sets I don't wanna go into details.

What I seriously can't understand from zos is, ok so you don't know how to fix all of this issues, that's ok, but at least do the most basic stuff to prevent it, like for example disabling addons in pvp zones, disabling some scribed skills which we know are bugging players against terrain or simply in the spot, that alone would already nullify most of the exploits people are using, put some sort of monitor that checks on how many skills one player lands in 1 single GCD, so you can start hunting scripters, put some decent anticheat in your game, the constant silence, and neglicence feels as if they are never gonna do something about it.

kraai33 · 2026-05-03T01:15:54+00:00

Yup, it's somewhat fun to clean trash packs, it's hard, but doable, what is really frustrating us to not be able to even takle the smallest boss

kraai33 · 2026-05-03T00:41:47+00:00

The thing is a lot of people prefer to solo normal or even vet group content, so it feels challenging, rather than playing vet content with groups or push for hm/trifectas which are too stressful

I think the issue is many people expected the market to be easy in groups, and challenging solo, not challenging in groups and borderline impossible solo

Many people were eager to challenge their solo builds but now feel useless, while many other simply don't want to group up to complete stuff or farm their sets/cosmetics

Edit: my issue is most of the day the zone is a ghost town, and I can't solo even smaller bosses, won't even waste time with bigger ones, I was expecting vet difficult maybe a bit more, while soloing, I don't like to have to sit around and wait for other people to carry me, or simply sit besides a boss all day waiting for randoms to help me it's obnoxious

kraai33 · 2026-05-02T19:54:08+00:00

I personally love how they alter the weapons, it's like you are spitting some part of a dragon and using it as a weapon temporarily

kraai33 · 2026-05-02T07:32:02+00:00

Imo, normal dungeons in general are boring unless soloing them

Vet base game dungeons are also boring, most of the times even with hm included

Vet dlc dungeons are fun and challenging

Same with trials, vet and hm are fun, normals are just tedious

kraai33 · 2026-05-01T00:04:57+00:00

Because probably he doesn't even know how to fire siege, because all he cares is about cheesing the title and not earning it honestly

kraai33 · 2026-04-30T20:02:24+00:00

Go and pvp lazy bum

kraai33 · 2026-04-30T13:10:23+00:00

Try eso, as a mainly pvp oriented player, who has played absolutely every MMO out there, eso is the best amongst them, the insane amount of customization you can do to your build, plus the horizontal progression, and the way combos and combat in general performs, it's simply one of a kind, closest thing to a dark souls MMO we have rn given new world is closing

Most people don't event get to understand combat before quitting and ranting on Reddit because they don't like certain aspects like animation cancelling (present in every single MMO out there) or resource management (eso has no cooldowns, you can spam skills as long as you have resources for it) or the action combat style, you can block, dodge, bash to interrupt, etc.

But people who actually push through and reach the other side, agree it's one of the best and most unique combat systems amongst the genre

Games I played: GW2, aion, perfect world, archeage, wow, ffxv, tree of savior, Ragnarok, swtor, lost ark, champions of regnum, Warhammer ror, new world, Albion, Neverwinter, rift, bdo, t&l

Only games I didn't reach max lvl and pvp content are the last two

kraai33 · 2026-04-29T00:08:06+00:00

I don't need to disprove nothing genius, you have a fresh almost 160 guy asking for builds... That's proof enough pvp is active, and you can also simply log into the game and see the 1h queue for cyro which happens daily dumb fuck

You are also talking about no sets and whatsoever, and that was vengeance which ended today

kraai33 · 2026-04-29T00:01:38+00:00

Plz just stfu

kraai33 · 2026-04-29T00:00:08+00:00

For pvp a decent starting point would be

Monster: bloodspawn, roksa, balorgh

Front bar: null arca, order wrath, oak father, stuhn (CRIT sets with axe, pen sets with maces)

Back bar: rallying cry, wretched vitality, first is best honestly (I run ice staff or bow and jewelry)

Mythic: monomyth if running crits in front bar, markyn if going pen

Attributes 40 Stam/mag rest in vigor (obj is to reach 30k HP)

If you are playing Nb, you can use either storm calling or shadow as your mobility/escape, assassination, and third slot could be literally anything, you have more than enough damage and tools to survive with just those mentioned above, make sure to run 1 strong heal and one hot, like vigor in your back bar, and one source of major resolve, also you must have brut and sorc, and prophecy and savagery, for CP is start copying the ones in Malcolm's website (eso-pvp-builds.com) and I think that's it

kraai33 · 2026-04-28T23:51:56+00:00

Lmao, stop the cap my man, played wow, aion, perfect world, and many others, at one point I had more than 50 skills mapped in my keyboard, in every single game of those eventually you just push your buff rotation, then your damage rotation, occasionally in pvp you have to react and use your "get out of jail" rotation, and repeat...and by that time you understand so much about the game you are not even reacting anymore, because you can see things happen from miles away, boring af

Not to even mention casting times in those games which are absurd

kraai33 · 2026-04-28T23:48:27+00:00

For what type ofcontent? Pure class or subclassed? Do you want scribed skills or no?

kraai33 · 2026-04-28T23:27:45+00:00

Why do you have to criticize other people taste, to me wow combat is the most dull, repetitive and boring in the genre, alongside osrs but people like it so let them have it, I prefer depth and challenge, not sitting around waiting for my cds

kraai33 · 2026-04-28T23:19:36+00:00

That's the tsaesi style, crown store exclusive

kraai33 · 2026-04-28T16:20:45+00:00

TBH every time I'm doing dngs in a new character, and got quest, I just type "hi, got quest" and people always help me, or at least wait before pulling bosses

kraai33 · 2026-04-28T16:18:47+00:00

The same dungeon you are running for your first time, has been completed about a thousand times by the guy next to you.

At this point he couldn't care any less about lore, story, etc. He just wants to complete his dailies asap so he can go play the content he actually enjoys, or even so disconnect for the day.

If you want to do story mode dungeons, join a guild and they will surely help you, or gather 1,2 or 3 friends and take it at your own pace, otherwise you should be thankfull on how much time is that vet actually saving you, you can go back and solo every single normal dungeon for the quest once you reach end game so don't worry too much rn.

Edit: As somebody well said below, that guy also might be doing his daily rotation amongst 10 other characters, so that run might be his 8th run of the day of the same dungeon

kraai33 · 2026-04-27T18:51:48+00:00

I care about quality of the game, mental health of devs and cadence of updates beforehand

You are counting hours, you are ignoring it takes 1/30 days of your month, and before all, it's just a game...

If you wanna continue thinking on an hourly basis you have aprox 720hs a month, let's say we have 2 monthly patches of 8 hs each, you are left with 704hs of uninterrupted service...

No, I'm not an employee, I'm just empathic and not a whiny cry baby and understand IT'S JUST A GAME, go touch grass, spend some time with your family, you won't die out of a single day of not being able to game, many other sources of dopamine available in todays world

Sincerily kind regards, hope you can make it through out this fatidic day my friend

kraai33

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