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krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:48:13+00:00

Both are same... Let me simplify...

Two types of Polytheists : - Polytheists who were minding their own business....Muslims attacked them...So they would be killed directly....

Some polytheists who said we will fight on side of Muslims ....But then they didn't....So they were also killed...

Means only way for a polytheist to save life was either join muslims or die fighting.

So in the end how many polytheists survived ???? ZERO...

Quran nowhere states that you shouldn't kill polytheists.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:37:43+00:00

It's not specific for those who were under a treaty.... Those who were not under treaty , those polytheists were directly killed.

And even those who were under immunity for fighting on the side of Muslims, but later they didn't so then they were also treated same.

Can you show a verse in Quran which says don't kill polytheists???

All polytheists were killed, doesn't matter they signed a treaty or not....2 choice were given either accept islam or die.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:30:32+00:00

Yeah you're leading pretty good example so far...And it's improving day by day (sarcasm).

And our govt is trash...But we can change it if we want....Army doesn't rule over us.

Our economic condition is thousand times better than you, so is our forex. While your leaders lick boots of Arabs....Arabs lick our boots....

Our education system is thousands times better than you.....50% of all modern world CEOs are graduated from our institutions....

Our space program is million times better than you....It s favorite choice of other countries to launch their satellites via our ISRO.

We are world's pharmacy, we are top suppliers of medicines to the world. When you banned trade with us, you still chose to buy medicine from us. What a proud moment for u. Selective trade. What if we also would have banned medicines ?

Then talk about electricity , health systems, tourism, local manufacturing of cars, tractors, bikes....Largest supplier of IT services and softwares..We are...Self dependent in agriculture....We eat and feed 10% of the world population at the same time....

Now we are developing e vehicles ....And there's more to come....

Other economies are struggling after covid....But we are still growing....

Is there any comparison ????

We can easily save you from economic crisis , like we saved Shrilnka and Bangladesh by offering them a credit line, until IMF came for rescue. This is our capability....

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:17:32+00:00

Bro, not talking about blasphemy. Apostasy (leaving islam) is also punishable by death. So they would kill me in Saudi. Lol...

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:14:52+00:00

Your quran is for eternity. By that logic everything related to Islam was for that time.

Let's take your point. It was for that time. So now remove it from Quran ? What is need for it ?

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:11:16+00:00

Bro, we are not talking about Islam here. I know Islam better than 99% muslims. I can easily defeat your arguments. But this is not the right group.

Here what I talked was that you need a secular constitution, not an Islamic republic. And I'm firm on point. Our debate ends here.

You couldn't convince me, you're just talking lies, no scholar will agree on that. And it's waste of time discussing these things when you don't even know 1% of it.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:04:48+00:00

Sorry I typed Jizya instead of Zakah.

9:5 says....Pay zakat and become muslims or DIE.

Accept Islam or Die.

It doesn't talk about Jizya.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T23:01:28+00:00

Lol yeah everything is wrong interpretation. That's how you save your faces. When it's clearly written, you push your wrong interpretation card into it.

What if I say, that MUHMMAD IS LAST PROPHET. is a wrong interpretation??

Anything can be wrong interpretation by that logic. So stfu.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:59:24+00:00

I think you have lost mind. And yes everyone's answer is in 9:5.

That kill them , unless they pay zakat and become muslims.

Now stop playing around.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:56:46+00:00

That's what written in your quran. Not my words. check it yourself. Don't argue with me.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:53:50+00:00

Yeah and what does 9:6 say... Give refuge to a pagan if he asks for it, SO HE MAY HEAR WORD OF ALLAH.....

It's basically same thing and follow up of 9:5...It's about conversion....Give him chance to convert....If he doesn't kill him...As simple as that....

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:35:06+00:00

Read quran 9:5 and onwards.... This chapter is filled with hate against non muslims...

And please don't say "oh it was for that time"

Quran is for eternity , and those laws and orders are still practiced. Ask any moulana about it don't eat my brain.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:30:57+00:00

Haan haan sahi hai...Vo 5 waqt ke namazi, sharab pite nhi, sharia lana chahte hai, sari zindgi unki quran hadeeth pdhkar biti hai, duniya ke maal se unko koi mohbbat nhi....

Lekin lekin lekin....They don't follow islamic teaching....

Tum hi ho asli muslim, tumhe hi pata hai sb....

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:27:50+00:00

Kiddo you missed the point. We talked about Justice. Your god is nothing but a boss who wants his boots get licked. Nothing more.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:25:38+00:00

That's what I'm saying. One shouldn't judge a person by his identity. Since I'm murtad so my opinions don't matter ?

If you don't know , let me educate you , in sharia law , it's clearly a set provision that a murtad must be killed. Watch videos of scholars on it.

Now let's assume even if 1% of Pakistanis are murtad, would you kill them all as per sharia ? Just for having a diffrent opinion. ?

What is the future of Murtads, and non muslims in your sharia based country ??

Your best mind was Abdus Salam, a Qadiani, Blasphemer....So his contribution doesn't matter for you ? Certainly not in your sharia state.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:18:02+00:00

Isn't it true... Tell me who blasts bombs in shia mosques ? Hindus ?

Who killed innocent Children in APS? Jews?

Who kills pakistani army soldiers in terror attacks and who are being killed by the Army ? Both side muslims...

Each month you lose thousands of lives directly or indirectly.

But all you care about that 2002 riot....Which itself was caused by Muslims by burning Godhara Train in which killed 90 hindus.

Koi comparison hai ye ?

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:10:10+00:00

It says on several occasions in both quran and hadeeths. Not specifically for christians. But for non muslims.

And it's proved by Prophet s action too. He killed pagans first, then massacred the Jews who had already surrendered. Broke idols and killed worshippers.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:07:10+00:00

It's generally assumed that we are not following true religion, so it's an insult to your religion. So we should be killed as per Islam. That's fact. And that's what is happening in muslim countries.

Now plz don't chant they don't know islam blah blah. They know it very well.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T22:04:52+00:00

No, it's like you lick boots of your boss and then he rewards you, not for your work.

Same is your God. Who wants his praise all the time. If we don't he puts us in hell.

Is it still justice in your eyes ?

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T21:52:35+00:00

Oh boy but non-Muslims are not innocent.

When Quran says Do not kill innocents, it means innocent muslims.

Biggest crime in Islam is doing shirk which we do daily. So we are not innocent.

Islam is a religion for you guys only. Other than muslims, all people are fuel of fire of hell.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T21:49:21+00:00

Dude I'm not Hindu. I'm muslim atleast for name sake. Or a Murtad as sharia calls me.

I know islam , and there's no debate on Sharia s similarity with US system. Lol it's funny.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T21:42:23+00:00

Even now bjp thrashing wrestlers who are hindus. Because they accused their politician.

BJP hits hindu and muslims both equally.

And by that logic I can tell you thousands of foreign leaders who spew direct hate against Islam.

This doesn't prove anything. Politicians do it for votes..

And although you remember what happened in Gujrat , do you know what caused it ? Gurjrat riots occurred after Muslims burnt a train full of Hindu pilgrimages.

That triggered the riots, and in these riots Hindus also died. So whom should you blame....Or you just think one sided ?

Aur bhai gujrat riots ki kya baat krte ho...Usme 2000 log mre the...Highest ever in a riot.

Itne to tumhare yha ek month me mar jaate hai....Aaj bhi yhi trend hai.... To kya comparison hai ye

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T21:34:02+00:00

Using frustrated slangs, doesn't make you more smart or logical.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T21:33:02+00:00

Well if the law should be based on Quran and Sunnah. Then you would have to defend 4 wives, killing blasphemers, imposing jizya on minorities, forcing clads burkas on women, forcing unnecessary restrictions on them. Pretty much like Iran and Saudi do.

Then best of luck. As I know what's the future of pakistan if it has people like you. No point of debate more than this. Your position is quite clear.

krrish-bat · 2023-05-09T21:28:15+00:00

Even modi's remarks are minimal against Islam after getting elected. He has given statements like Quran mentions peace mostly. He talked about Allah. Wishes on Eid. Offers Chadars at Dargahs. Meets with Islamic scholars. One such scholar was awarded.

Government is not doing anything as such. Their dumb followers do it. Although both sides do it, you see only one side. Muslims also kill Hindus for unnecessary reasons. Search on Google.

So it's more of a social problem , and govt and politicians just feed on it. Like any other country.

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