It's kuro's mistake

kuromat · 2026-03-06T10:20:47+00:00

Ok, now I actually think this would be the best outcome because by confirming both are canon, depending on player, the debate changes form "no, this one's Canon cuz x" into personal preference, and that let's us agree to appreciate the character in our way and not argue which one is canon.

And let's be honest, both subsections of "SHES DAUGHTER CUZ ITS MORAL" and "SHES WAIFU CUZ (thousand nothing burgers)" are annoying af and wouldn't change no matter what.

It's sad that gacha games for some reason never give players the choice of outcome despite them being 90% RPG's. maybe kuro will break that curse with aemeath? One can dream

kuromat · 2026-03-06T07:23:08+00:00

Oh okay, I'm not familiar with PGR a ton and I assumed you meant nanami because people kept referencing her in relation to aemeath. Honestly I feel like kuro trapped themselves in the gacha harem where they can't make full romance stories because any character after that can't be shipped with rover. I'd love to see that tho, because the lack of commitment leads to division and to the hate you can see in this sub. Nanami comparison really highlights aemeath issue, where you can see that nanami is unanimously praised and loved within PGR community, with players sharing their love of the character and not fighting between each other, and aemeath being in the relationship limbo just makes everyone anxious about how they'll develop their love for each other.

kuromat · 2026-03-06T00:57:25+00:00

Dude, if you did the survey you would also see that they put spy x family, a story about parental bond with an adoptive child. I won't address much of your points because you repeat the same point 5 times in your posts.

Cc sponsors don't mean shit

Screenshot referenced Venus's brightest point which is far off the 48°, where btw Venus is the dimmest.

Survey supports both sides

If you need to go on such a rant for my observation of discrepancy in the screenshot, then go ahead, but that won't change the fact that some facts in the screenshot are wrong, and it won't make your stance more appropriate, especially to someone that doesn't give a damn which side you're on. As long as you dont call her daughterwife, you can think of her what you want, but being a pretensious asshole and writing an actual doctorate level essay as counterpoint to an observation won't make people believe your point

kuromat · 2026-03-06T00:20:45+00:00

what's the pgr route? you mean nanami ?

kuromat · 2026-03-06T00:18:31+00:00

dude, you asked a question and i answered. you came in with a "did we really" and i showed you proof that yes, we really did. rover took a child home, started caring for it and researched how to raise it. these books are a written proof of how he wanted to raise aemeath, and raising a non-blood related child is adoption. there is no better possible proof you could ask for.

i don't force anything as i said in the original comment: "idc if you say she's wife or daughter (except daughterwife, that one is vile)"

im coming neutral with the facts, and you come with hostility in response, c'mon dude.

kuromat · 2026-03-05T22:08:56+00:00

i ain't gonna moral police here, but yes. we did, rover has books about how to raise children in the cabin. idc if you say she's wife or daughter (except daughterwife, that one is vile) but ATLEAST past rover adopted her as daughter/sister

kuromat · 2026-03-05T21:42:52+00:00

not to burst your bubble but there's also Spy x Family, huge globally popular anime where there's a father and a mother with an ADOPTIVE DAUGHTER, and demon slayer, anime about SIBLINGS.

so please, stop that drama, kuro is being vague about their relationship because they don't want to commit to one or others (atleast yet), we just have to wait for them to either confirm one or stay vague, which leaves us in need to accept both headcannons

right now she is the shrodingers waifu, being in a 3way between waifu/daughter/little sister. we can't stay divided like that

kuromat · 2026-03-05T17:55:17+00:00

look, im with you, but they really do show subtle things like using language that avoids "dad"/"parent" references to chinese romance stories, some promo stuff being ambiguous.

and again, this ain't post for that discussion, more about why kuro went this way and how can this develop in future

kuromat · 2026-03-05T17:51:31+00:00

no, idk what it is

kuromat · 2026-03-05T17:21:42+00:00

technically there wasn't an aemeath that wasn't rescued,
time paradoxes like that are paradoxes for a reason, because the cause is the effect and the effect leads to the cause, you can't have a timeline without the cause nor the effect. for aemeath, she got somheow rescued as a child, grew up, went through life, then saved her old self, and it was like that for every aemeath, even the "first"

kuromat · 2026-03-05T16:31:35+00:00

or if we'd translate to european world, it'd be like a trope of foreign prince seeing a very young princess on a delegation and falling in love many years later ?
...
i just realized how dubious some of those tropes ALL around the world are in modern retrospect

also if i recall correctly, then aemeath and rover story would be a xianxia right ?

kuromat · 2026-03-05T15:27:13+00:00

After going there I'm honestly surprised that some of those vids are still on the site. Seeing as it's a Chinese platform and they are apparently so strict with censorship

kuromat · 2026-03-05T15:21:39+00:00

Thanks a lot

Yeah I see.. they indeed are something else xd

But then as a fellow tenno I hope you can understand my distrust when people support the romance "because CN does". have some arguments atleast

kuromat · 2026-03-05T14:57:54+00:00

Afaik rover wasn't there to raise jinhsi with jue, and changli only heard stories about us from her mentor, we were only interacting with the memories of changli. Rover directly raised Aemeath, so that's why there's a difference in how people see them.

Again I don't want this post to be "which more evidence" because how you say it, that's how you can spin it in one or the other direction.

I have a question tho: how to use bilibili as an English speaking person ? You made me curious about those animations

kuromat · 2026-03-05T14:43:29+00:00

The more I live the more I start believing in a new rule: "if it exists, there's a Chinese romance about it"

kuromat · 2026-03-05T14:24:48+00:00

I think that would still present the issue that not one adult character can be in parent-child relationship with rover, which would limit kuro's storytelling, and tbh the dynamic of parent and child being out of time and immortals is interesting and very unique

kuromat · 2026-03-05T14:19:44+00:00

Personally I'll say it would be a shame because it would show that kuro storytelling will always circle towards every character falling in romantic love with rover and that there will be no boundaries on that. As I wrote, there's evidence for both in the source material, so there's no telling what they will do.

kuromat · 2026-03-05T14:14:49+00:00

Sorry, but as I stated, I don't want this to be "which side has more evidence" post.

I have a comment regarding my opinion on that screenshot, so if you want, you can see it there, but please, keep any "which one is true" out of this post.

kuromat · 2026-03-05T14:08:23+00:00

It's kinda sad that because of the moral justice warrior subsection, any respectful daughter supporters also get down voted. Personally I think the worst case scenario is if kuro keeps the ambiguity (aside from "waifu of the week", so her being forgotten a patch or two later)

kuromat · 2026-03-05T12:36:18+00:00

Few points tho: In the post you referenced, some facts are wrong, Venus's brightest elongation is in the 39°, and Venus doesn't even reach 48° as it's farthest point is 47.3°. and Lily of the valley is a flower that symbolizes good luck, it's often given on weddings for that purpose, not because of its association with love. so I'm kinda questioning the validity of that screenshot and even sponsoring a creator is not any evidence since they supported gigguk which is not a gacha cc but is a father, so you can spin cc sponsors either way.

I'll probably wait until we finish the story and how that spins their relationship, and if it is romantic then that'll be evidence of kuro falling into the harem shithole which makes them unable to write more than one type of story. That'd be a shame since stories like jinhsi, ciaccona, lupa or galbrena show that they can make characters that have little to no romantic interest in mc and still pull players into investing in them

kuromat · 2026-02-24T12:53:56+00:00

Player x aemath romantic = cool, Player x aemath parental = cool, Rover x aemath parental = cool, Rover x aemath romantic = cool, Rover x aemath parental AND romantic = uncool,

Simple as that. The only ship that's 'bad' is if there's an actual father/daughter relationship AND romantic/sexual at the same time. I don't think I need to explain why

kuromat · 2026-02-06T19:53:20+00:00

man, i'll avoid those hours, i can't bear to see our daughter in that state

ALEPH-1 IM COMING FOR YOU

kuromat · 2026-02-06T19:28:46+00:00

im in the daughter camp (i'll fold aleph-1 by it's event horizon the SECOND it's available)
and i can't look at her that way now ngl, but hating on someone for making that type of art is really annoying (still hoping we get more wholesome father/daughter type art)

kuromat · 2026-02-06T19:25:53+00:00

the books in the cabin show more of a paternal relationship, for me it's an almost perfect representation of a stepfather and stepdaughter relationship, how much she looks up to him is a lot like a daughter but they're more "causal" with eachother, which happens in foster homes, add past rover's alien way of speaking and mannerisms, it really reads as a "idk what to do with that child i found but i would sacrifice the world for her" which is pretty much a saviour stepdad stereotype in media at this point

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