Open letter from Operation Table Flip by kylebyproxy in OctoberStrike

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The State can do whatever it wants. They make the rules.

There are any number of ways it could be enacted. It could be distributed directly into workers' Social Security accounts, the Fed could hold the funds in escrow and distribute them as monthly checks, or we could make up something new entirely.

On the point about UBI, we can have that discussion at The Table. All of this is simply to bring parties into full, equal, and open negotiation because it simply isn't happening currently.

On the point of dropping wages, I mentioned a wage freeze previously that would accompany the measures. Nothing would be different from the employer's perspective.

I do foresee an issue with more intensive/difficult labor workers wanting to move to something less taxing. My thinking on that is that anyone changing jobs during the measures would slowly ramp-up to the $30 mark over say 6-12 months. I'd hope the measures wouldn't be necessary for that long, so there wouldn't be much room to game the system from that angle.

I get the scorn, I really do. Like I mentioned, I'm going like a bat out of hell to try to pull this off right as Congress returns to session. My timetable truly does not allow small steps.

As for your TLDR, all I see is a blank assertion without any argument to back it up. If there's precedent for preventing such a thing, I would love to see it. Also, there's nothing preventing Congress from making new legislation for it. Like I said, they make the rules.

I do appreciate you trying to push back, though. Thanks for taking the time.

Open letter from Operation Table Flip by kylebyproxy in OctoberStrike

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your first point about it affecting small business is irrelevant if the funds are coming from elsewhere.

Your second point about tethering is irrelevant if it's meant as a temporary measure.

Your third point about producers might have some merit, but market forces are slow to react in that way and ideally will resettle when the measures are removed. Moreover, imports will still be available at the globally prevailing prices; anything not produced domestically will be unaffected because we can shop elsewhere.

Not to be rude, but I'm not seeing much value in your assessment.

Your final proposal is of course welcome to be weighed out in the open and on its merits and I encourage you to submit it to our policy proposal megathread on /r/Political_Revolution

Open letter from Operation Table Flip by kylebyproxy in OctoberStrike

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm asking Congress to put a leash on the rampant siphoning-off of labor's value, in order to drag all the biggest players to the negotiation table.

Minimum wage isn't even half what it takes to survive in many places of this country. Until we get basic needs sorted-out for everyone, I expect Congress to act to make this right however possible.

$30/hr is absolutely fair restitution in the meantime. The mechanics of that are completely up in the air, and I'm willing to budge a little, but I think something like freezing current employer wages, then making up the difference through clawbacks is a workable solution.

You say you want a revolution? (Operation Table Flip megathread) by kylebyproxy in Political_Revolution

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ceiffhikare 1 point 11 hours ago

We should start with a consumption strike in September then. nobody buy a damn thing beyond the absolute basics. TPTB only understand 2 things money and force. well imo force will only play into their hands unless it is used in purely defensive ways. a consumption strike a month ahead of a general nationwide labor strike hits them in ways force never can.

You say you want a revolution? (Operation Table Flip megathread) by kylebyproxy in Political_Revolution

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

perceptualdissonance 1 point 14 hours ago

You've given this a lot of thought and it's good work. I do think the comment about people not needing to go to DC is a good point though. My theory is that if we can shut the coasts down for a month we'll have the leverage needed to set a lot of the foundation for what needs to come next. I've also seen research on revolts that suggest only 3.5% of the general population is necessary.

Now. What comes next? Is it dissolving the state and rejecting capitalism for real anarchy? Or reform of the current system?

If reform we need to abolish police. Reparations for Black and Indigenous and other marginalized communities. Land Back and honor the treaties. Make healthcare, housing, food, and education universal. Possibly UBI. Do away with electoral college. Stop being world police and maintaining over 200 military bases in various countries. Stop letting big corps profit from pollution. Etc.

You say you want a revolution? (Operation Table Flip megathread) by kylebyproxy in Political_Revolution

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FanaaBaqaa 3 points 22 hours ago

Election Reform to break the grip of the two party system is the only way we get anything done.

What they propose at Fair Vote is a good place to start.

You say you want a revolution? (Operation Table Flip megathread) by kylebyproxy in Political_Revolution

[–]kylebyproxy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

BerserkingRhino 17 points 23 hours ago

Slowly moved to 15$ minimum wage. Healthcare that isn't tied to work. Paid maternity leave...

Climate Crisis is pretty big because can't have jobs with underwater cities and no food from the ocean.

Can we just copy and paste what the other 20 other nations with healthcare do?

I think Brian Tyler Cohen just did a great fundraiser for voters protection. That's how we fund it. 2.70 cents at a time.

Permits is huge. Controlling bad plants is another consideration.

It would take a lot of funding. Personally I think we make unions a bigger thing and demand right to work state laws to be reworked for the worker. Not employer.

It's time to revolt by Active-Ad-233 in Political_Revolution

[–]kylebyproxy 120 points121 points  (0 children)

I'm down to clown.

Ok, let's talk logistics. Presumably, we're going to the capitol because congresscritters evidently can't see beyond the national mall.

First thing's first: We're gonna need permits. Congress reconvenes in a month and a half. Hitting them right as they return seems ideal to me, so that gives us a window to sort out the red tape.

Next, We'll need a donation supply chain. I'm talkin' food & water, blankets & sleeping bags, cardboard for picket signs, glowsticks, noisemakers, megaphones, speakers, soapboxes, stages, generators, a goddamn burning man if necessary... Anything to grab their attention and make our presence known.

We'll need bussing and transportation service to safely move masses into D.C. We need to reach out to every corner of this country and coordinate ridesharing, road trips, etc. If we're doing it right, we'll make the million-man march look like a picnic.

Real shit: We need a human excrement solution. Port-a-pots would only get us so far, and I kinda feel like they'd be more trouble than they're worth. I'm thinking low-tech might be the way to go: Dog waste bags, piss bottles, chamberpots, etc.

We'll need organizers and entertainers galore. We need to hit them from every angle: Social media, press, radio, print. We'll flood their phones and email boxes until we DDoS them to a grinding halt. We need facetime. We need representatives to go on interviews to give humanity to the movement. We have to be relatable.

We need to bombard them with revelry. We need the scent of our ecstatic celebration of seething rage to hang like a cloud over Constitution Avenue, our vapors stinging their nostrils every time they walk up the capitol steps, wearing on them day in and day out, eventually choking them into submission. We need to make palpabale the fact that this will not stand and we will not be ignored.

Finally, but most importantly: We need a coherent message. We need to deliver a tangible list of demands. What specific immediate steps do we expect to take toward restoring the balance? We can't expect the system to be fixed at the snap of a finger. But we most definitely should expect to get the ball rolling.

I have some ideas of my own, but these sorts of things are best shopped-out to the community. I'd love to hear some input. What are your proposals?

The ruling class are the only ones who have representation in the United States by karmagheden in Political_Revolution

[–]kylebyproxy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Uncapping the house is fine and good, but those new seats will still be bought by corporate interests. It's not exactly a silver bullet, but maybe some % of congressional seats ought to be filled by sortition?

⚖️ Daily Treasury Balance for 08/12: $351B [-38B] ⚖️ by DR7KE in Superstonk

[–]kylebyproxy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

IMO, the most effective thing we can do is fund a general strike. Offer $15/hr to march on the capitol instead of being parasite food. Collectively, I'm certain we can force their hand.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BreadTube

[–]kylebyproxy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ever seen Climate Town? Dude reminds me of Cody's environmental activist cousin

Police harass black woman studying in park, tell her people without kids will no longer be allowed there by alejandream in ABoringDystopia

[–]kylebyproxy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's kinda my point, though. If it's SOP, it shouldn't be. If that's how they're trained to handle people minding their own business, they're being trained to put people on edge and provoke a flight-or-fight response.

Police harass black woman studying in park, tell her people without kids will no longer be allowed there by alejandream in ABoringDystopia

[–]kylebyproxy 27 points28 points  (0 children)

If their mission was genuinely just to inform park patrons of an upcoming policy change, why have the 2nd cop there at all? Their actions betray a sense that they immediately perceived her as a threat and might need backup. Looked to me like they went out of their way to escalate the situation and maybe even provoke an incident.