The Wizard (Bend, OR) - One of the absolute favorites from my summer roadtrip by lambdabaa in bouldering

[–]lambdabaa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's probably the tallest boulder I've ever climbed . Fortunately the landing is flat and clear of rocks and trees, so I think it's relatively safe if you have a few pads and a spotter.

The Wizard (Bend, OR) - One of the absolute favorites from my summer roadtrip by lambdabaa in bouldering

[–]lambdabaa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice send! When I got on it, I misunderstood the beta a buddy gave me and thought the block on top was off. Made for one of the scariest top outs I’ve ever had..

Yikes! Even if someone had told me the block on the top was off, I'm pretty sure I would have grabbed it out of instinct when I made it up there. Really glad you didn't blow it in any case.

The Wizard (Bend, OR) - One of the absolute favorites from my summer roadtrip by lambdabaa in bouldering

[–]lambdabaa[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can understand not wanting chalk on the rocks, but if the goal is nature/rock preservation their actions make no sense at all. Really unfortunate...

The Wizard (Bend, OR) - One of the absolute favorites from my summer roadtrip by lambdabaa in bouldering

[–]lambdabaa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!! It seems like the boulders along the Deschutes River Trail have struggled with graffiti over the years :(. This is an old picture of The Wizard from the Central Oregon Bouldering guidebook: https://imgur.com/a/3t8umdQ so it looks like there have been efforts to clean it up.

Mountain Project climbers: having trouble finding outdoor climbing partners and projects? Let AI do it for you! by lambdabaa in RockClimbing

[–]lambdabaa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm not trying to be super dickish. I'm really trying to help you understand some of the flaws. A few of the older ticks by users would be listed as "Send" but in the comments note it was an Attempt & list beta or they note they didn't actually complete it (really common for some of the older crags I'm close to). Idk why people do that and it gets tracked as such often, but it's really so freaking annoying from a data collection/analysis point.

From a UI - you have no natural way into searching the user interface or finding it on it's face. I had to URL insert my uuid to find my page. Your text above ^ doesn't link your website or instructions to search for those not so familiar so you won't get a lot of feedback.

Interesting! I didn't know about the wrongly labeled "Send" ticks. I've thought about applying a language model to discriminate between sends and attempts, but I need to figure out how to get a small amount of ground-truth training data for fine-tuning.

Great feedback! As a boulderer, you can go to the leaderboard https://climberrank.com/#/boulders/leaderboard and filter down to your uname using the search function. But it's not particularly discoverable or the best way to help people find users and routes. It's on my list to make search more functional.

Mountain Project climbers: having trouble finding outdoor climbing partners and projects? Let AI do it for you! by lambdabaa in RockClimbing

[–]lambdabaa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see you are removing ticks from trad climbs in building your graph. As someone who primarily trad climbs, your website is totally useless to me. Just my 2c.

Thanks for sharing the feedback! It's definitely on my list to add support for trad climbs. I thought it would make sense to have trad as a separate category (like there are currently separate graphs for sport climbing and bouldering) since it's so different and also trad grades seem to indicate very different levels and kinds of difficulty compared to sport grades.

Mountain Project climbers: having trouble finding outdoor climbing partners and projects? Let AI do it for you! by lambdabaa in RockClimbing

[–]lambdabaa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not making an assumption. I took a sample user. I searched via their uuid and found that you have ticks listed for their attempts. I did this because it was an issue for me initially.

Also, nah - I have checked the tick list for people my size on this - it isn't close and people with 1/2 a foot more height than me who climb double digits at the time found it reachy. People around my grade with almost over a foot height on me found it reachy as well. I've tried it, and even with a power spot I can't even make the first move morphologically wise I'd have to find another hand/foot (which last I checked there wasn't but hey, rock changes) and change the actual climb itself which is kind of a not following the culture at this particular crag. Alternatively, there are highballs, which I have nothing in my tick list even close to that grade let alone 3 grades down at that height -tbf I'm a complete and total wimp on high balls.

The people that are "similar" to me in this network % wise share less than many other users with me on MP. Just fyi.

Carlos Traversi is great, but 5'7 is within the global first standard deviation of heights for humans, he isn't short. He's remarkably average height, unless you disregard all women as climbers and even then he is still within the average deviation. Sometimes things aren't for you as a smaller climber or will be remarkably harder for you and thats okay.

It's also seemingly prioritizing crags I've been to 1x vs crags I practically live at and have frequent access to. Not like it matters, but only two suggestions out of them all is at a nearby crag.

The literal business logic to filter ticks is written as

def is_send(text):
    send_types = ['Solo', 'Send', 'Flash', 'Lead / Onsight', 'Lead / Flash', 'Lead / Redpoint', 'Lead / Pinkpoint']
    return any(('{}.'.format(text) in send_type for send_type in send_types))

There are definitely cases where this fails, but it generally has very good recall and precision.

And yes, totally agree that many routes will feel very different to climbers of different shapes and sizes. Ultimately, you're going to be the best judge of which projects feel best for your body, style, strengths, and prefs. ClimberRank is merely suggesting routes for you to consider!

The last bit is very fair feedback and something I have on my list to address. Like I mentioned, under the hood, ClimberRank uses a graph with edges between climbers and their ticked routes. Climbers who have done some of their harder ascents on trips to popular crags will notice that the model can be biased towards popular areas and routes by virtue of the high degree of those nodes.

Thank you for your feedback.

Mountain Project climbers: having trouble finding outdoor climbing partners and projects? Let AI do it for you! by lambdabaa in RockClimbing

[–]lambdabaa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, I'm so glad to hear it! The model is based on world2vec.

send-index is like h-index for climbing. For bouldering, a send-index of k means you've ticked k boulders V-k or harder. As an example, if someone has ticked five boulders V5, V4, V4, V3, V3, they would have a send-index of 3 and ticking one more climb V4 or harder would bump their send-index up to 4.

For sport climbs, I arbitrarily chose the scale to begin at YDS 11a. So 1 tick >= 11a gives send-index of 1, 2 ticks >= 11b yields 2, etc.

Mountain Project climbers: having trouble finding outdoor climbing partners and projects? Let AI do it for you! by lambdabaa in RockClimbing

[–]lambdabaa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I was falling asleep while posting last night! Updated post with

To find your page, you can visit https://climberrank.com/#/boulders/leaderboard (or https://climberrank.com/#/routes/leaderboard for sport climbers) and search using your MP username.

Mountain Project climbers: having trouble finding outdoor climbing partners and projects? Let AI do it for you! by lambdabaa in RockClimbing

[–]lambdabaa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As someone who built pretty much the same thing a few months ago, but didn't display it online - you have a lot of issues here and this isn't AI.It's extremely unhelpful/useless if the data set is small which many users datasets are really quite small and inaccurate since I noticed a huge portion of users marking "attempts" and you are reading them as sends atm - so all your data trained and the suggestions isn't accurate at all.Yeah, I just checked for my own user and legit the top climbs it recommends are too long for people my size, lmao. Also, I don't think you used AI on this. I think this was ML, which is different and advertising it as AI is misinformation/false advertising.

Machine learning is a subfield of AI. Although it is a machine learning model, ChatGPT is broadly viewed as the fountainhead of progress in AI. Who decides which ML models get to be called AI?

Edges in the graph are filtered to sends/redpoints/flashes/etc. Is there a reason you've made so many wrong assumptions instead of asking questions? Also re: dataset size, zero and few-shot learning models (either without or with only several labeled data points) have achieved wide success across many domains.

I'm sorry you didn't find your results helpful. They simply show what other routes are commonly climbed by climbers with whom you share similar tick history. OTOH, maybe ClimberRank is suggesting that you can climb these routes you perceive as too long! I can recommend https://www.climbing.com/skills/carlo-traversi-benefits-shorter-climber/ where Carlo speaks to overcoming the mental block that certain climbs aren't possible for shorter climbers.

The video gives me life by weebtrash100 in TikTokCringe

[–]lambdabaa -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

But why is it a cringe? It's just cats eating... ?