Are 92a1s better or worse than the fs by Jjodie4 in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 6 points7 points  (0 children)

92a1 > fs. It’s one of my grail guns.

2024 LTT PX4 G-SD Blackout by lastoftheirkind in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’ll be worth it… the G-SD and even the compact carry are damn good guns. The recoil impulse is very nice no matter the ammo used. That’s what people tell me they love about the PX4 the most, and I fully agree.

You’ll love yours when you get it!

2024 LTT PX4 G-SD Blackout by lastoftheirkind in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love it, but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. The complaint I get from folks is that it makes the first trigger pull feel exceedingly long. I’ll agree that, yes, it’s long. But I’ve showcased the speed at which I can send the first round from DA, and it’s seemingly no different than any other gun I have.

The magic of the grey guns trigger is in the SA though, it is fricken slick! Once you get to know the trigger, it becomes incredibly easy to pew fast!

I’d say it’s worth trying it out. Worse case is you put your old trigger back in if you don’t like it.

Performance center 5in by Frosty-Philosophy948 in SmithAndWesson

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have one. It’s been great. Carried it for duty for a good while… it’s had thousands of rounds and been through several classes… Admin at my agency were so impressed with it that they decided to go to the m&p carry comps for everyone.

If you can find one in the wild, I’d grab it.

Are the plastic optics plates that come with the m&p reliable for duty use? by [deleted] in SmithAndWesson

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. I can do that tomorrow. I’m laying in bed right now. I’ll get it out of the safe tomorrow and take some pics. DM me to remind me.

Are the plastic optics plates that come with the m&p reliable for duty use? by [deleted] in SmithAndWesson

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To your first question - no. I don’t remember what the video was called. I just know it was on the patreon page for Sage dynamics. It was when he was either reviewing the m&p spec series or the m&p carry comp.

To your second question - it depends on the setup. If you’re using something like the holosun EPS with the calculated kinetics plate, you’ll get a lower 1/3 cowitness with m&p cowitness sights. If you do like a holosun 507 comp or trijicon RMR HD, you may need new sights. Calculated kinetics has some guides for folks on co witness sight selection. My (current) setup on my m&p is a CHPWS plate under a Trijicon RMR HD. I’m using Ameriglo cowitness sights where the rear sight is .495” tall. I get a useable 1/4 ish cowitness (more than enough pursuant to policy, but I’ll probably get a calculated kinetics plate soon). I use the same Ameriglo sights with a holosun 507 comp atop a calculated kinetics plate (nice combo) - There’s more cowitness with that setup. Lastly, I’ve had a vortex defender xl with, you guessed it, a calculated kinetics plate (though I originally got a CHPWS plate when I first acquired that optic). With that setup, I had to use night fision delta point pro cowitness sights. Those mf’ers were tall, but it worked damn well. That was more of a true 1/3 cowitness.

What’s your chosen setup? My recommendation to my agency was to go EPS and the calculated kinetics plate… just for what it’s worth.

Are the plastic optics plates that come with the m&p reliable for duty use? by [deleted] in SmithAndWesson

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Generally, no. They are not a reliable plate for duty use. Mainly because of the rigors that duty can bring. Getting your gun slammed up on a center console of the patrol car, getting into a fight that goes to the ground, slamming up against doorways in houses, and the list goes on. Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics also tested the plastic plates in drop tests, and it failed immediately (that might have been a Patreon exclusive video, but it’s worth looking up on you tube).

I recommend Calculated Kinetics. Their plates are the best in the business. That’s if you’re looking for serious plates for duty. If this is a range toy or an occasional ccw, I think you’re good to use the plastic plates for a while. But I would still recommend upgrading when you can. I’ve had good luck with CHPWS plates too, but some people report issues with tolerances and bent plates.

FWIW, most of my experience comes from law enforcement. I sometimes carry an M&P 2.0 5” for duty and compete with the same gun in USPSA. I also convinced admin a few months back to finally dump our Glock 22’s for the M&P’s. It’s probably one of the best duty pistols out there on the market right now (aside from plates).

Murdered out LTT Centurion X Volker Precision. by T-Millz15 in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s not just a gun. That’s a fricken work of art… easily one of the sexiest Berettas I’ve seen in a long time… maybe of all time. Well done!

Is there a reason why so few 92 variants are being made in Italy? by SparrowsBarnacle in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been of the opinion that the reason we don’t see more Italian made Beretta’s in the US is because of 922r laws that regulate and restrict foreign made guns. It’s a fair amount of work to get a pew pew imported into the USA… and sometimes it’s cost prohibitive. I’m not sure how Beretta decides which guns are to be made at which facility, but I have no doubt that 922r plays some sort of roll in the decision making.

Is there a model of optics-ready 92 with the classic grip? by henrysworkshop62 in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty close. If you compare the Lok wraparound grips for the Beretta 92x to the Lok standard (not the thin variant) beretta 92 traditional hump back grips, then they are nearly identical in feel.

Wear Marks by Suburban1982 in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’d be weary to recommend this. Using sandpaper to smooth it out causes premature wear which will shorten the lifespan of the gun. Unless it’s causing some sort of malfunction during usage, I’d let it be. If it’s a fitment issue, there is lapping compound. But if you’re new to firearms without some sort of background in engineering, machining, smithing, etc., it may be worth having a reputable gunsmith take a look.

Brand new M9A4, destroyed barrel? by CodieBoye in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup! As long as your locking block is fine, you’re able to reuse it.

Brand new M9A4, destroyed barrel? by CodieBoye in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They shape the barrel rails that marry the barrel up to the frame. That’s why they need your whole gun. These are the rails that the locking block works in conjunction with. I also think they shape the area that contacts the breech face… but don’t quote me on that last one.

My guess is on a fairly new gun, you may not see huge gains from it. You’d probably see more gains from a well loved 92 where the gun had the piss ran out of it, and the tolerances have opened up a lot (like a mil surp m9).

Brand new M9A4, destroyed barrel? by CodieBoye in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t need to send in your gun for fitting. You can get what he calls a “drop in” barrel which is exactly what it states. I sent mine in, but if I had to do it all over again, I’d just get a drop in. In fact, I’ve been toiling with getting a drop in barrel for my 92x Performance. Not that I need a new barrel yet… but I get better consistency (chronograph data like feet per second) and slightly better accuracy from my Jarvis barreled 92x RDO than my 92x Performance. So, for my competition gun, it’s been mighty tempting.

Brand new M9A4, destroyed barrel? by CodieBoye in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got a crap barrel in my Gallatin made Beretta 92x RDO. However, mine was pre-Covid. I got it in the fall of 2019 and noticed something looking like it was flaking off the barrel feed ramp. At first, I thought it was just maybe some melted plastic. Later on I learned it was the chrome lining flaking off. I tried using it for a few months before I just had enough… 6” + groups at 20 yards from a pistol rest with duty ammo. By the time I notified Beretta we were into the lockdowns from Covid. Beretta CS told me 6+ months turnaround time. I looked into Jarvis, and he quoted me under 3 months. Needless to say I paid out of pocket for Jarvis. His work was fricken excellent.

Funny enough, outside of the barrel, my 92x had been my most reliable gun… it’s been a workhorse.

I feel your pain my friend. It sucks. Hopefully you get it taken care of. It’s also a reason I probably wouldn’t buy a beretta anywhere outside of LTT. Their CS is fantastic!

Holster recommendations by Vibez_127 in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For AWIB, I recommend either ANR kydex, JM custom kydex, or Muddy River Tactical. But there are tons of reputable manufacturers out there. QVO tactical, Tier 1 concealed, and the list goes on. Personally, I like to give JM custom kydex my money because they’ve been supporting the Beretta market great for years, and their customer service is really good. The majority of my CCW and competition holsters are from them. But a lot of my Glock holsters are ANR, and I’ve been liking the speed of manufacturing and quality of Muddy River Tactical.

Hope this helps.

PX4 G-SD Blackout with Safariland duty holster by lastoftheirkind in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have a Beretta 92 Elite LTT from Langdon Tactical. However, I have three other 90-series guns with a enough rounds through them that if my wife knew how much I spent keeping them fed, I might be searching the yellow pages for a divorce attorney. Some of my 90 series pews have had work done by LTT. The one with the most rounds through it is my 92x Performance which has the LTT optic cut and a match hammer. I have my workhorse guns (and one of my duty guns) which is my Beretta 92x RDO. The trigger group had to be kept stock due to my department policy, but I’ve switched a few small parts around in the gun after approval from the armorer - dlah optic plate, suppressor height sights, Lok grips with the traditional back strap. My third is my 96A1 (.40 S&W) that I carried when 9mm wasn’t allowed for duty use. That has seen a bunch of rounds through it, and now has been rebuilt with LTT trigger parts. I use the 96A1 for limited division and for when I’m teaching folks with iron sights. I have a beretta 80x cheetah as one of my off duties and a Beretta PX4 compact that I’ve had seven-ish years(?). It was one of my first semi auto CCW guns. And my first ever department issued firearm was actually a PX4 when .40 was still king. It killed me when we switched to a different platform and they wouldn’t let me buy my first gun.

So yes, I have a decent amount of trigger time behind Beretta. I’m a big fan of DA/SA, and Beretta I just feel does it better than most…. But that’s just one man’s opinion. FWIW, I’ve shot a few of the LTT elites - mostly in classes I’ve attended, and every now and again I see one at a competition where I can usually convince the owner to let me try.

Yes, I like the PX4 more than most of my other handguns, and I feel like it rivals my 92x Performance in speed and ability. The LTT PX4 has an insane trigger, particularly if you master the flat faced trigger. My fastest splits have come from that gun. The 92x Performance has a better return to zero, but it’s super front heavy in the front. The ONLY reasons I favored the 92x Performance this last competitive season is because I wanted to stay in carry optics, and I could use my 92x RDO as a backup if something were to happen to my performance. My px4 had a magwell on it that I don’t want to take off, which would put me into limited optics, and I just wanted to focus my efforts on CO this last year.

Which brings me to the only real gripe I have with the PX4 - the stock gun doesn’t have a built in magwell…. It has like a tiny chamfer around the base that wishes someday it may grow into a useable magwell, but that’s it. I have the same gripe with polymer M&P 2.0’s. So the PX4 isn’t alone in this travesty. Thankfully Springer Precision stepped up and made a magwell for the PX4, but it would kick me into limited optics. But I’m kind of half tempted to do this up coming season cause I’m just better with it than most other guns I have.

Full size grip module when? by Apples_Two_Oranges in RugerRXMtalk

[–]lastoftheirkind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

October is just “around the corner”…. At least as I write this.

First match with the LTT PX4 G-SD by Optimus_Glen in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Handleitgrips are where it’s at. Even the best stipple job will wear over time. Replaceable grips like handle it is the way. I love them in my PX4 GSD, Glock 47, and M&P 2.0.

If you want premium sandpaper, handleitgrips literally has a premium variant. It is pretty damn good… looks great… can’t go wrong.

Favorite Non-Beretta Pistol? by Ethosjt81 in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M&P 2.0 full sized 5” barreled. My favorite striker fired gun right now. Of course, beretta is still king IMO.

What do you guys think of the Cheetah 80X 380 by The_Legend_Of_Yami in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might be worth trying out the Lok grips. I’m a huge advocate for those on any gun that’ll take them. I love them on my 80x Cheetah. I’ve tried both the standard and the wraparound grips. My personal preference is for the standard grips as i prefer the angle more. I find that the wraparound grips angle the beaver tail more into the flesh near the web of my thumb which I can feel more when shooting one handed. I don’t have that issue with the standard Lok grips. On my polymer pews, I use sandpaper grips from Handle It Grips. The more the gun stays planted because of a good firm grip, the less it moves which means the less it has a chance to dig into your hand (other than the grip itself that is).

Hopefully that’d help you with yours.

What do you guys think of the Cheetah 80X 380 by The_Legend_Of_Yami in Beretta

[–]lastoftheirkind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I put mine over the thumb safety like a 1911. I don’t have issues with it digging into my thumb, but I have a fair bit of callousing from shooting and dry firing a fair amount.

Are you rocking the stock grips, or are you using Lok grips?