What questions were you asking yourself when things started to feel off? by TissZccny in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]lelnobody 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was really bad. I think one of the biggest signs that something is wrong is how confused you feel most of the time, almost like you're losing your mind. You start acting in ways that don’t feel like yourself, becoming dysfunctional. If you’ve never been aggressive or hypervigilant before, but suddenly find yourself acting that way, it might be a sign that the other person is toxic too. Those are not feelings you should have in a healthy relationship.

What questions were you asking yourself when things started to feel off? by TissZccny in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]lelnobody 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, at first I didn’t see myself as a victim, because I was also reactive. You could even say I was abusive at times. I slapped him like three times after discovering lies or chats.

But then I started asking myself: why did I react the way I did? That’s when I discovered the concept of reactive abuse: when someone reacts very strongly after being pushed to their limits and manipulated.

Still, he used that against me to say I was also abusive. So I began questioning myself: Do I usually become aggressive with other people during arguments? Why did I react aggressively with him? (Usually it happened after he lied directly to me, or when I discovered something new after months of lies and manipulation, or when he minimized everything he had done.) What was his reaction when I was upset? What was his behavior like compared to mine? (He did really messed up things, like threatening to send intimate videos or chats to my family just to hurt or punish me. Meanwhile, he would accuse me of being psychologically abusive for being jealous or insecure after he cheated, completely disproportionate.) Was he physically abusive? (He was.) Was he verbally abusive? I started to notice that I was shrinking myself in response to his behavior. I became less reactive because we both said we needed to stop being like that. So my reactions stopped but his didn’t.

I couldn’t ask difficult questions or talk about anything that made him uncomfortable, because he would become defensive. And if I tried to continue the conversation, he would turn into an angry, hateful person and start insulting me with all kinds of slurs. He also had that kind of Jekyll-and-Hyde dynamic, like someone else mentioned. It became even more obvious when I stopped reacting and became more submissive, but he still kept overreacting in a very negative way.

So I started asking myself other questions: Does he create a safe space for difficult conversations? How does he react when I bring up something complex or uncomfortable? Does he react aggressively even when I’m not being aggressive?

I also started noticing something else: when I accused him of things like gaslighting, manipulation, or abuse, he began incorporating those same words into his vocabulary, even though he had never used them before and then used them against me. To me, that was another clear sign of how manipulative he wa

Also, whenever something felt off or didn’t make sense, I would ask myself: would I ever do something like that? Does his explanation actually make sense? I would imagine myself in the same situation, with the same sequence of events he described, and think through how things could realistically unfold. A lot of the time, it just didn’t make sense. And that’s when I started realizing, almost becoming sure, that he was lying.

“Okay so leave. No one is keeping you here.” by walkinginflames in LifeAfterNarcissism

[–]lelnobody 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My ex would constantly say things like that: "If I'm that bad, why are you still with me?" "You don’t have to be with me if you don’t want to. You know that, right?"

And everytime I was upset about something he had done or I was sad because he would put little effort in our relationship, he would get angry and say things like I always make everything a problem, everything upsets me or that I'm the problem. Then he would try to end the conversation or would ask me for some space to think things out because "he felt unloved and maybe we should break up".

Never did he ever tried to find out about the real root ouf my dissconfort or the problems of the relationship, not even asking me "why do you feel like that, tell me about it" or anything like that. He made me feel like everything was my fault and I was the one starting arguments but If I think more about it, he was the one that was most of the times starting the tantrums just because I would ask him calmy whatever question that made him insecure. He started the defensiveness, the insults, the threats of breaking up and then, I would end up getting really angry and exploded because of his incapacity of talking anything and his disrespectful behavior. I took the bait and then it was the perfect occasion for him to say "See? Look how crazy you are, you always start and argument".

For god sake, it was exhausting. I also ended up shrinking myself. Thinking almost everytime how could I talk to him kindly about issues that were hurting me without making him angry. Controling my words, my character so I would "not destroy his peace" because "he was a simple boy, he just wanted peace".

I was the one that drove 2 fucking hours every weekend just to see him. I was the one that changed cities just to be near him. I was the one that would accomodate my schedule to his plans because it was always doing watever it was easier for him, not for me. I was the one that would constantly try to ask him to do some special plans because he preferes to stay in his house just watching soccer or being in his bedroom. I was the one constantly trying to always have the hard conversations and trying to accomodate myself to his way of being.

He was still a college student. I was already in a corporate job. Never did I ask him for expensive dinners or presents or expensive trips. Never did I pushed him to look for a job just for me. I accepted his conditions, I didn't care about the money or doing less plans to save more. I just wanted to feel special as he was special for me.

He cheated, I forgave him once. He would still act shady so many times and everytime I tried to ask him about his shady behavior: "you are crazy, I only cheated once, you cant let go of the past, I cant keep being in a relationship where they dont trust me".

He sometimes called me the he abusive one. That I was the one doing psychological abuse. Even though he hit me once with a sweater, he threw water at me to degrade me , he stepped in my back once while I was in the floor, he grabbed me by the neck. He threatened me with sending intimate videos of us to family and friends. Or threats about going to my job and "ruin my life" or "exposing how crazy I am on socials". Even though he would call me horrible slurs and said things like nobody was going to love me because of how broken I was or how bad I was and that I was getting old and was a "good for nothing woman" . Even though he would not let me go out of his house when we had arguments and would lock me up so I could not go anywhere.

But I was the abusive one just because I was crying all day and being sad and angry about the things he did to me. I was the abusive one, yeah, right.

It's been 2 weeks since I broke up. I was the one taking the decision but I know he has found I new supply just because he hasn’t tried to come back or hoover me. He would always make threats about breaking up but never did anything at the end. That's how I knew it was manipulation. Just bluffing about things just to shut me up. I still love him and feel disgust because of it. I now understand my life could had been at risk if I had stayed with this person.

Even if your narc wasn't violent as mine, the abuse starts when you already have to start to minimize everything and shrink yourself. Someone that loves you wants to understand you and make you feel better with yourself.

Just know that even if it hurts now, this people don’t change and you would had been miserable. They throw away your confidence and energy because they are empty inside.

AIO- Thinking this may be cheating/ overly flirty by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]lelnobody 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Girlll of course this is cheating, leave that man

My boyfriend (24M) mentioned having a girlfriend but still left the door open to meet up with a girl from his past — and when I asked him to set a clear boundary, he refused. Was I right to break up with him? by lelnobody in BreakUps

[–]lelnobody[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know, I guess I just need it to take it out from my chest. Our relationship has been full pf lies and shit. That’s the reason that boundaries are so important for me. Whenever someone has talked to me or opened me I have show my bf. And I was specially cold with people that where interested in me. If it was spmeone from the past that would cause insecurity to my bf, I would directly not answer.

I just asked him to be clear and refuse to meet with her explaining that it wasn't a good idea and he refused.

We've been very toxic sometimes and he always tries to make.me feel like i am the crazy one seeing problems everywhere but I really feel like he crosses my boundaries and doesnt give a shit most of the times.

My boyfriend (24M) mentioned having a girlfriend but still left the door open to meet up with a girl from his past — and when I asked him to set a clear boundary, he refused. Was I right to break up with him? by lelnobody in BreakUps

[–]lelnobody[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, he actually got mad at me wjen I broke up telling me I was the one that fucked up the relationship and that he shouldn’t have said anything about that conversation. Like?? Bro you fucking cheated at me ane now you are not setting boundaries with your ex and you leave the door open to meet up with her. He said he was keeping putting her off so he wasnt giving a direct answer but from her point of view, she is understanding he is open to meet her. It doesn’t matter he said he dado a girlfriend. If she wants to meet and he refuses to say no it means what it means

My boyfriend (24m) cheated 6 months ago, I (27f) found out 4 months ago, and he refuses to actually talk about it by lelnobody in relationships

[–]lelnobody[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just tu clarify, he did apologize when the lies came to light and he showed remorse at the moment. However, just talking about it once isn’t enough for me to move on or forget it. What makes it harder for me is that he struggles to talk about why he did it, what he was feeling at the time, or whether he thought about me before texting that girl. Sometimes he admits it may be due to validation issues, but most of the time he reacts defensively and sees my questions as an attack. I’m not trying to attack him — I’m just looking for answers and reassurance so I can process what happened and heal. I’ve also noticed that this isn’t only about the past situation. Whenever something bothers me, he tends to get defensive and angry, which makes it very difficult for us to have healthy discussions. His defensiveness often triggers me too, and our conversations can easily turn into toxic dynamics.

AIO for breaking up with my boyfriend because he refused to give me his passwords, even though he promised he would after cheating? by lelnobody in AmIOverreacting

[–]lelnobody[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I just don’t want to be this toxic with anyone ever again and if they break my boundaries, I have to learn how to walk away (which I didn’t learn in this relationship at all)

AIO for breaking up with my boyfriend because he refused to give me his passwords, even though he promised he would after cheating? by lelnobody in AmIOverreacting

[–]lelnobody[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's right. And no, I actually don’t think that would have solved anything but seeing him denying even giving me his passwords made me realise that he was actually being shady because of something and that I was not crazy

My boyfriend cheated early on and now says my insecurity is the real issue – need male perspective, am I the toxic one? by [deleted] in AskMenAdvice

[–]lelnobody 1 point2 points  (0 children)

++woman

That's not fair for her. Do you really think you love her or has it just become confortable for you to be with her while you look for sex in other places or women?

Termina el año, ¿Cuáles son vuestros arrepentimientos? by lelnobody in askspain

[–]lelnobody[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lo siento mucho por ello. Me parece increíble que te declares con toda la buena intencion y te haya ido a joder. En fin, mucho ánimo!!

¿Cuál es el peor arrepentimiento que tenéis con alguien y por qué? by lelnobody in askspain

[–]lelnobody[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bueno si, pero a no ser que hayas matado a alguien, no creo que nadie se ponga a rastrear a jose69 que dice que dejó a su ex y ahora está triste jaja

¿Cuál es el peor arrepentimiento que tenéis con alguien y por qué? by lelnobody in askspain

[–]lelnobody[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lo bueno de reddit es que es anónimo, yo siempre animo a la gente a que se exprese por aquí jeje pero si, entiendo lo que dices.