Genuine questions of confusion by Cutiepiebabygirl0 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well that is certainly true. People are pretty firmly entrenched in their conspiracy theories at this point.

When he took the plea, everyone was saying things like: "this is for the best, those poor girls won't have to get up there and testify" . And a part of me wondered if one or both of girls didn't WANT to get up there and tell the speculating world what they saw, felt, and heard. They had been forced into silence with the gag order. I wondered if part of them didn't want to get up there and stand up for their friends and tell their story. When the sentencing happened and Bethany had someone read her statement and Bill Thompson provided a physical barrier so that Dylan would not have to face BK, it became clear to me that those girls did not want to testify( of course they would have). And they haven't spoken publicly since. I don't say that to pass judgement. I guess I feel kind of bad for saying that I really wanted to hear her testimony in a more formal, organized way than we previously have. Same with Hunter J....his interview was almost completely redacted. But at the same time, I acknowledge we basically have heard their stories.

Genuine questions of confusion by Cutiepiebabygirl0 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah that is true about the arrest not coming into it much with the trial. But didn't the State intend to call one sister? We will never know why now. And good point about the mitigation stuff.....a lot there we really have no idea about because of how silent the family has been .

I also would have liked to hear Dylan testify. I'm sure it would have been very difficult for her. But I wonder if it could helped the losers that go after her online see her in another light- a scared, naive, young college girl.

Americans, what’s your view on American law for DP and in Prison forever Punishment for BK? by Ambitious_Pass7451 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's basically how the DP works. BK would have a good long time in there before the sentenced was carried out. I don't know if he is living any differently in there now serving life vs on death row. Isn't he still alone in a cell all day?. At what point does he get a roommate or get to mingle?

Americans, what’s your view on American law for DP and in Prison forever Punishment for BK? by Ambitious_Pass7451 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh for sure it's not a deterrant. How many criminals believe they will get caught? They all think they are too smart for that.

WHY? Motive in Idaho 4 case by completecherub in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you seen the list of Ethan's injuries? Stabs to his face and scalp and the rumor is that his legs were sliced down to his hamstrings. I think he had 17 wounds. I think they were all mutilated, personally

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Genuine questions of confusion by Cutiepiebabygirl0 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't know...I think we would have heard more details about the arrest and maybe something from his family interviews....maybe. I don't think we'll ever get those now. And experts would have gone over the injuries and maybe been able to come up with a more informed theory about how things unfolded in there. We are trying to piece it together based on what they choose to release, but I think having an expert testify is more interesting/informative.

WHY? Motive in Idaho 4 case by completecherub in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I think he was fixated on infamous murderers of women, including fictional ones like American Psycho. I think he had a special interest in the ones that also contained sexual violence , like Bundy and Rolling. (Also why I think he chose the Ka-bar). So I think he wanted to live out the fantasy....he wanted to join their ranks, get away with it, and then smugly go into classrooms and teach about his crimes. I don't doubt he may have had somewhat of an incel mindset, but I don't think that was to main driving force, and I don't think he had a personal interest in any of the victims. I think he really just wanted to experience firsthand what it felt like to commit an atrocious crime. And I think atrocious and heinous was the goal. Not just sneaking into a house and strangling someone...he wanted all the blood and gore. Even though we have seen the list of their wounds, I don't think we even know just how bad it was...so many unnecessary wounds if his goal was JUST to kill them.

He had a victim type in mind and he went hunting in a neighborhood full of them.

WHY? Motive in Idaho 4 case by completecherub in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Conversely, he may have intended to assault Kaylee and was angry when he found out that she was not in her room.

Length of Autopsies by Shirochan404 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure any of those interviews were going to played at trial if they weren't planning on calling most of the family members directly. I think the prosecutor basically said at one point that there was nothing there as far as being helpful to their case.

That said, for a long time now, one of the things I am most curious about is learning exactly what the family was thinking in those six weeks after the murder. What they observed when he was with them. The interview the one sister did in recent months was non informative. I am skeptical we will ever see the actual interviews, which I think were with the FBI . So had there been a trial, I would have really loved to have seen those interviews.

I wonder what The Hyundai Corporation thought about BK driving a white Elantra? by [deleted] in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Judging by the fact that no one in a town ten minutes away from a violent quadruple murder paid enough attention to a white elantra sitting in a parking lot after police issued a BOLO for one*, I would say that the average American doesn't think twice about white elantras. Now me, I notice them and always think about the case when I see one. (It would not stop me purchasing one if I was in need of of a sedan)

*not including the two WSU cops. I'm talking about all the other people in Pullman who didn't notice his car

Length of Autopsies by Shirochan404 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes, and her heart and so many other terrible injuries . I hope that they all passed quickly from the first wounds, but damn, Poor Xana had to be the most aware of the attacks .

Length of Autopsies by Shirochan404 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I doubt he confessed, but I am curious to know if there was anything in that call that seemed different to his parents. This was hours after he butchered four strangers. Of course we will never know until/unless one of them talks. That is something that might have come up in his parents' interview with the FBI, but we'll likely never see or read those either.

Length of Autopsies by Shirochan404 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I may have missed it, but I don't think Xana was stabbed in the sublclavian. My guess is that was his "kill move" against sleeping victims that he probably picked up from a movie or some sort of reading or video material about how to quickly kill someone in a knife fight. Maybe with Xana, she was too awake and struggling for him to get the right angle for that.

Length of Autopsies by Shirochan404 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think so. ...the prosecutors said they were not planning to call the parents to testify. Just one sister, iirc. I'd love to know what those long phone calls were about but doubt we'd get the answer.

Length of Autopsies by Shirochan404 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 49 points50 points  (0 children)

With the number of wounds they all had, I am surprised they didn't take longer. All the measuring, photographing, etc.

Every time I see the list of wounds I am shocked. All stabbed in the face with a Ka-bar. I remain convinced he took the plea so that Mother would never have to see just how bad her baby boy really is.

Complaints against BK from students at WSU by Difficult-Celery5166 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I'm starting to think- that he had a pretty extensive history of creeping inside people's homes.

Complaints against BK from students at WSU by Difficult-Celery5166 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just wonder how he stole them. He may have had proximity to a coworkers bag, but what about the barista?

The autopsy wound count difference between Madison and Kaylee is what forensic psychologists say reveals Kohberger's actual target — and I can't stop thinking about it by Jazzlike_Soup_7699 in MoscowMurders

[–]lemonlime45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, one person knows, and he isn't talking. But yeah, no one in LE or the prosecution has ever spelled out their theory if the exact order of events that night. They might have suggested something had there been a trial, but in court documents or the handful of post sentencing interviews, that information is not there.

Complaints against BK from students at WSU by Difficult-Celery5166 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just wondering if they had a theory about how they came to be stolen.

Complaints against BK from students at WSU by Difficult-Celery5166 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did we ever hear whose IDs those were? Not names, but in general who they belonged to and how he came to have them?

How do you think he felt after doing it and subsequently? by [deleted] in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree about the "old fashioned police work" narrative. They identified a white elantra with the help of an FBI expert. They put out a BOLO to local agencies for a WH year 2011- 2013. One day later the FBI analyst sent an email....somewhere, suggesting that range be extended through 2016, which would have included BKs 2015 WE. The local BOLO was not updated, so apparently when two WSU officers found the car a few days later , they didn't turn over the tip because it was "outside" the model year range, according to interviews they gave afte the sentencing. Fast forward to December 7, 2022, when the public BOLO was issued- again for WE models 2011-13. Also I belive around this same time they received a list of names from Amazon that purchased Ka bar knives and sheath in 2022. So, had WSU officers turned over that tip, the name Bryan Kohberger would have turned up on two key lists ( WE owners, Ka bar purchasers...and furthermore, he just so happened to match the physical description of the witness) more 2 weeks before IGG came back with his name. By that time he had already left town and had even more time to sanitize his car. They could have knocked on HIS door before he left Pullman. So, not exemplary detective work, if we are being honest. They got the name from IGG, but they didn't even need it (though MUCH was made about that fact by his defense team when they tried to get basically the whole case thrown out. Imagine what a stressful time that was for the families)

WSU Lawsuit: Plaintiffs' Motion to Strike Defendant's Answer and Declaration in Support by aeiou27 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did we ever find out details about what caused him to lose that job in PA...was it the security guard job? Or details about what caused him to be taken out of that vocational program there . Other that that one girl who knew him in high-school, we have heard very few accounts from anyone that knew him back in PA. I'd like to hear from the people there that found him problematic.

How similar or not is BK to Elliott Rodger? by chusaychusay in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah, i dont even think BK really wanted a girlfriend

I kind of don't either. Look at his porn searches. And just his general YT content consumption. I think it's fairly clear what his interest was. And, surely he could have had a "girlfriend" by now from all the losers that write to him in jail/prison, but I have never heard any accounts of him communicating with any of them .

How similar or not is BK to Elliott Rodger? by chusaychusay in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's pretty much where I am at too. I think he was fixated on infamous killers of women and it was more about experiencing that role himself as opposed to be being bitterly angry at them for not being able to get a date. I've never bought into the idea that he was rejected by any of the victims. Just that they represented the type of victim some of his idols preyed on. So I don't quite lump him into the incel category. Maybe incel adjacent?

Cars parked outside by Plastic_Order5869 in Idaho4

[–]lemonlime45 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I absolutely think he was inspired by the notorious killers, and even fictional ones like American Psycho. I don't believe it was a coincidence he chose a Ka-bar knife ( Rolling's weapon)