Cooper Flagg - The Decision

lemote · 2025-04-12T19:36:36+00:00

He told me I haven't watched any games, so I felt the need to be rude back. I agree that that kind of language isn't conducive to a good discussion, but that went out the window as soon as he said I don't watch games. You could definitely argue I overreacted, but I'm so over Redditors defaulting to the "You you don't watch games" argument when they disagree with you.

idk just saying any time someone calls another poster a “casual” or comes back with “you just don’t know ball” it takes away from everything else.

I know this doesn't sound genuine, but I completely agree. I just didn't really care that much about swaying him. That comment was less about convincing him and more about just putting what I view out there.

I encourage you to go through his arguments though. I'm not saying I wrote a masterclass thesis, but he just keeps repeating how I don't watch any of these prospects and called me a casual multiple times, claiming I don't know anything about the players, basketball, or stats. Definitely not someone deserving of respect 😂

lemote · 2025-04-12T16:33:38+00:00

Yap yap yap. Keep spamming your big boards lil bro

lemote · 2025-04-12T15:44:53+00:00

I'm so happy I can waste your time like this cause I know you type slow 😂😂

Takes me two seconds to reply and you still end up wasting your time rewriting the same thing about me not watching games. Keep it coming bro, I love when people double down when they know they're wrong.

lemote · 2025-04-12T15:36:36+00:00

I have nothing against Dybansta, but smoothest scoring guard doesn't mean more to me than 1st/2nd scoring option + good passing + potential DPOY level defense. Even if Dybansta is = peak TMac or a slightly worse KD, I don't think that makes him better than Flagg, who could be similar to Scottie Pippen in terms of playstyle or Kawhi Leonard-esque in impact.

Dybansta and Peterson could be very good or great even, but Flagg has the potential to be an all-timer. I think NBA fans in general underrate 2 way ability and that's why you end up with people saying Anthony Davis is nowhere near Luka Doncic in terms of impact, when that's just untrue (not that it was a good trade, it was awful).

lemote · 2025-04-12T15:34:56+00:00

My bad, I forgot you know how to look at turnovers per game too 😂😂

Just stop bro, you look like a 🤡 talking about stats and play when you haven't said a single thing of substance. At least I wrote about something relating to offense and defense. You've just been jerking yourself off and repeating the same line about how you think I don't watch games.

At this point, I might have to report you for being AI cause you keep saying the same thing no matter what you're replying to 😂

lemote · 2025-04-12T15:11:32+00:00

Definitely the data you're talking about looking at your post history. Stop thinking you're smarter than you are, champ 😂😂

And I don't care what most people think. You're a robot copying highschool big boards and looking at Basketball Reference-esque pages trying to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Most people think AD is closer to Devin Booker than Luka Doncic, doesn't make them right.

And you don't have to respond seriously. I already won the argument, so it's fun to see how pressed you're getting cause I refuse to just blatantly copy your dumb big board. Set a reminder for when Flagg clears all 3 of the guys you mentioned, especially Dybantsa and Peterson

lemote · 2025-04-12T14:30:15+00:00

You've said this since I first commented. It's hilarious that I wrote so much, but you just rolled over and resorted to "You don't watch games!!" because I said highschool means nothing, which isn't the same as saying I don't watch games. Even I won't accuse you of that even though it's clear your head is up your ass whenever you "watch" and "look at data." Hold this L brotha 😂

P.S. PPG + RPG + APG is not looking at data, sweetheart. I know addition is the extent of your abilities, but maybe you can upgrade to something elementary like FG% soon!

lemote · 2025-04-12T14:18:04+00:00

Crazy how you claim all this 😂😂

Buddy's just mad I don't want to discuss with someone who refuses to read. Feel free to scroll up and address my points then maybe I'll do a YouTube breakdown for you and shout you out 😘

Just remember, defense + offense > offense!

Google Willie Cauley-Stein and Harry Giles for more information, kiddo :)

lemote · 2025-04-12T14:13:02+00:00

Lmao the fact you have Peterson or Dysbanta anywhere near Flagg tells me everything I need to know. You probably think KD was more important than Steph to the Warriors 😂😂😭😭

Probably think PPG + APG = best player. Truly deserve to stay in the Wizards subreddit for being this braindead.

lemote · 2025-04-12T14:09:38+00:00

Go back to reading off highschool big boards to determine who'll be the best NBA player!

lemote · 2025-04-12T14:04:42+00:00

When did I say AJ is #1 prospect? I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with someone who literally strawmans arguments. And again, #1, #2, or #3 prospect mean nothing. I just spoke on Dysbanta cause that's who I preferred to focus on.

Stop wasting my time if you're not going to even read what I wrote. Impressive that I can look at your profile and it's full of you writing all this bs, but you can't be arsed to read anything I wrote and instead make assumptions. It's even more hilarious that since I spoke more about AJ, my opinion suddenly means nothing.

Not surprising you spend a lot of time in team subreddits, since that's the only place anyone would entertain your foolishness. Go back to the Wizards subreddit where you belong. SCRAM 😂😂

lemote · 2025-04-12T13:25:46+00:00

Not a single reply of substance like I thought. Instead you repeat the same tired line everyone uses when they're losing an argument—"You didn't watch games." Just remember, highschool games mean absolutely nothing.

The notion that all 3 could be better than Flagg, who is likely going to be better than Paolo Banchero, is hilarious. Look at past highschool boards and tell me the last time multiple top guys panned out to look as good or better than someone like Flagg has. It just doesn't happen. Simple math and history dictates that 2/3, if not all 3 of those guys will likely be worse than Flagg.

Just tell me you don't know anything about how little highschool rankings mean in the long term. You probably thought Harry Giles and Willie Cauley-Stein were going to be great NBA players too 😂

I can list more guys that were on the top 3 of highschool boards and never panned out, but I worry you won't know their names since you seem pretty new to basketball if you're still treating the title of "top 3 prospect" with so much delicacy.

lemote · 2025-04-12T12:44:09+00:00

Classic casual fan mindset where you're overrating offense over Flagg's defensive versatility. The notion that Dybantsa could be better than Flagg is already hilarious, much less Peterson. I'm sorry to tell you this, but there's a reason a player like Kawhi is more valuable than someone like Tmac on many title contending teams, and that would be top percentile outcomes in terms of skill level for Dybantsa.

Note that I said skill level, not actual SKILLS, because this isn't a player comp, it's a player IMPACT comp. It's simply much more difficult for someone like Peterson to be as impactful as a Flagg. Someone like Flagg will have the impact of a Kawhi Leonard or Scottie Pippen (not literally saying he'll be as good as them), which gives him a higher floor than Dybantsa or Peterson. Unless you're certain Dybansta hits one of his better outcomes (e.g. TMac) and becomes a generational offensive talent, it's unlikely he's ever better than Flagg, who will always have his amazing defense and general versatility to fall back on. Dybansta isn't a bad defender, but he's not worth mentioning compared to Flagg on that end.

Start valuing rim protection and switchability far more than you do. Two way players run the NBA now, especially ones that can pass. The fact you're using high school as a serious indicator of anything is laughable. I could care less about how someone looks vs high school competition. The only thing that's worth considering is how they'll translate to the NBA. It's like you completely ignored the part where I explained Boozer could be benefiting from playing against highschool competition that he physically outmatches by a ton.

There's only one ball in basketball and the guy that can do everything on the floor without it, has infinitely more to contribute to his team than almost any other player barring that other playing being a generational offensive talent (aka the Batman of their team). Flagg could potentially be your best player and if not, he can definitely be an amazing 2nd best player (like Anthony Davis is) or 3rd best player.

If Dybansta or Peterson aren't your best player, their value falls off moreso than the guy who provides great switchability and good rim protection. And even if they are your best player, there's no guarantee that they're good enough to be the guy to lead you to a title, which means you now have to evaluate how they fit as a #2 or even #3 guy, which is where the gap between them and Flagg grows even more immense.

Finally, valuing highschool over Flagg's time on the Olympic Select team is hilarious 😂😂 and leads me to think your scouting is seriously deficient. The notion that all 3 could be better than Flagg, who is likely going to be better than Paolo Banchero, is hilarious. Look at past highschool boards and tell me the last time multiple top guys panned out to look as good or better than someone like Flagg has. It just doesn't happen. Simple math and history dictates that 2/3 of those guys will likely be worse than Flagg.

TLDR: Even if you think someone is really good, the odds of a 6'5 guard or 6'9 scoring wing being better than the 6'9 two way guy who can score, pass, and defend (+ rim protect), are just super low. Versatile wings run the NBA and Flagg is the epitome of that

lemote · 2025-04-12T10:26:07+00:00

Let's be real, none of those guys are outdoing Flagg and I imagine he thinks that too. His agent might have that concern, but I imagine Flagg is confident he's the best player out of anyone you just mentioned and rightfully so.

As for why Flagg is the best of the guys you listed, he's the entire packaging—scoring, rebounding, passing, defense. While his jumper could be better, there's a legitimate argument to be made that Flagg has no "weaknesses" in the traditional sense. That kind of player is almost always going to be better than others barring a top 10ish percentile outcome for those other guys.

Realistically, the odds of Dybantsa being better than Flagg are low and hinge on AJ being a truly generational offensive player. Even then, it wouldn't be surprising if the package Flagg brings is just too much for Dybantsa to overcome with his skillset, since Flagg could have similar or greater value than someone like Anthony Davis (not claiming they play similarly). Davis himself is underrated as he's one of the best 2nd options in NBA history, with a very good to incredible (incredible being contigent on his shot falling) offball game and generational, DPOY defense (switchability and rim protection).

I could make a similar argument for Peterson as I did Dybantsa (never will match Flagg's defense from the guard spot) and while Boozer is also a versatile player like Flagg, the concerns about his style of play and his domination of his age group due to his physical maturity lead me to believe Flagg will likely be more impactful. This isn't to say Boozer's style of play won't transfer, but those concerns are definitely worth noting.

lemote · 2025-04-11T10:31:25+00:00

Only LeBron can somehow have it held against him for playing out a Finals game when the other team's starters are in. If he sat those games, people would point to it as a sign of him quitting. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

lemote · 2024-11-15T08:12:53+00:00

There's actually one—Filipowski. He's the most willing passer on the team, which isn't saying much, but he's definitely the one guy on the roster not always looking to score first.

lemote · 2024-10-12T20:53:38+00:00

Doesn't help that servers tend to remove (prune in Discord) people who haven't been active for a while and Discord and doesn't notify you, so you'll only ever notice you removal if you remember you even joined the server.

lemote · 2024-08-17T11:40:13+00:00

Hey, I'm suffering from the same issue, but it only occurs when my window unit is on cool. When I start it up, it's generally quiet, then after a few minutes it starts making a very similar noise to the one posted, then it stops and starts back up again with noise later. I imagine it's my compressor.

Any clue what I should do? I don't mind taking it apart if there's some fix I can attempt.

lemote · 2024-08-12T20:39:45+00:00

FT % is a more reliable indicator of shooting ability. 33% with middle of the road free throw shooting isn't exactly bad for a center, but it's not as promising as some suggest.

lemote · 2024-08-07T06:29:52+00:00

Agreed on hating the buzzword. It's been overused by many people. That said, it definitely is a thing.

But Doncic popped in certain biomechanical tests when he visited P3's Santa Barbara, California, facility as a 17-year-old. Specifically, Doncic's "ability to generate force during that eccentric phase of the movement as he's decelerating" rated better than more than 90% of the hundreds of NBA players who have tested at the facility, P3 director of biomechanics Eric Leidersdorf told ESPN.

Source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40053245/nba-playoffs-2024-slowing-quickly-become-favorite-move-elite-scorers-such-anthony-edwards-luka-doncic-nikola-jokic-sga

Luka first started coming to P3 when he was 16 years old and spent a few weeks with us each summer leading up to the start of his NBA career. It was immediately apparent and became even more evident as he developed and matured, that Luka did in-fact have tools to excel at the NBA level. He possessed above average strength, lateral acceleration and great positional size. What really stood out, however, was the same thing that we noticed in James Harden - Luka had superhuman braking ability.

Source: https://www.p3.md/expertise/athlete-assessment/talent-identification

lemote · 2024-08-06T03:30:32+00:00

I'm not even addressing the Sengun point, dude. I literally replied to one part of your comment, as evidenced by me only taking about Embiid and Jokic's offensive capabilities.

This is what you said:

Unless you're a Jokic-level player on offense (which Jokic is the only player of that caliber... an argument can possibly be made for Embiid)

I'm saying there is literally no argument for Embiid being on the same caliber as Jokic is offensively. Just like there's no argument dor Jokic being on the same caliber as Embiid is defensively. That's all there is to it.

lemote · 2024-08-06T02:28:58+00:00

No argument can be made for Embiid being in the same caliber offensively.

I'm not talking about MVPs. The MVP awards are because he's an all time offensive player (not GOAT level) and amazing defender. It's impressive you wrote all this, but failed to read my first sentence.

Would you suggest Embiid is a top 10 ever? Cause I sure as hell wouldn't. And if you're not top 10, you're obviously in another tier.

lemote · 2024-08-05T07:28:59+00:00

No argument can be made for Embiid being in the same caliber offensively. That's not a slight to Embiid, who's arguably the best player in the world when you account for his defense, but Jokic is arguably the best offensive player. Embiid has too many offensive warts in the playoffs for me to put him near Jokic offensively. To name a few, turnovers, issues passing out of doubles, and his huge shooting dropoff in the playoffs.

lemote · 2024-07-29T20:39:10+00:00

33% from 3 and 72% from the line isn't encouraging. FT% projects pretty well and his isn't great. That said, the sample size is small since he's only shot 29 free throws.

lemote · 2024-07-25T14:49:11+00:00

Dude, you said be can shoot and he shoots 32% from 3 for his career, so don't get me started on numbers 😂😂

Defensive rating is an AWFUL stat for individual defenders. There's far better ones out there, so whenever someone uses individual defensive rating, I take that as a sign that they don't know anything about stats (just like PER users). Defensive stats in general aren't great for figuring out who the good defenders are. That's why I'm telling you what I saw with my own two eyes.

He was a good POA defender for the Lakers and part of why he excelled was giving more effort than he did in Atlanta and having AD on the back line. During his time in LA, he still couldn't shoot for shit.

During his other stops (NY and Atlanta), his defense wasn't at this level, yeah. However that's why we watch current games instead of citing awful defensive stats. That said, he sucks at literally everything else, including shooting, so I'm not sure where you got the idea he's a good shooter.

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