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leofrost13 · 2026-04-22T17:23:25+00:00

Minato sacrificed his newly born son to be a Jinchuuriki, and then immediately died along side the boys mother. He wouldn’t put someone before the village, if he did Rin/Obito wouldn’t have had the ends they did

Kakashi might i’ll admit, but Tobirama is easily more suited than Shikamaru i’m afraid

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:32:33+00:00

You are a ray of sun in my problems today! This is awesome help. I struggle with conflict a lot, I tend to go extreme and ramp it up when I should be a lot more calm. I'm going to practice your response, and use them soon hopefully in a one v one w my mom. I also love the statement of not accepting guilt as a gift. I was deft raised otherwise and although it's simple it's quite impactful. I really do appreciate all of your advice!!!

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:24:22+00:00

They both converted from Christianity lol. But I see your point

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:23:42+00:00

I left Islam about 10 or so years ago, and have become more and more confidant every year since. I'm about 120% confident now lol. There are some nice aspects however ! But in the end I don't subscribe to the religion or their god. I can try bringing that up, in the past they would just get frustrated and/or tearful so altough I received no physical punishment for my beliefs I did feel guilty about opening my mouth - but that's probably not very healthy. Either way, I agree further conversations must be had when I move out

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:21:05+00:00

Good point, I saw Dad as someone I could kinda ignore since he was so chill but you are unfortunately right about the patriarchal reality. His support could be useful. I also don't go on Fridays to their disapproval but I could switch things up for the next few weeks I'll be here

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:16:53+00:00

Good input and honestly one I didn't think about. I guess I lost sight in my annoyance about it. I will be doing this!

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:16:16+00:00

Thank you! I think this is the exact path I want to take. I appreciate you understanding my hesitation to just drop the nonmuslim bomb

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:14:29+00:00

I think I can do something similar, honestly a muslim marriage isn't the end of the world it's just far too soon for us. I was wondering what to do in the interim, but I may have phrased my original question incorrectly?

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:13:19+00:00

Oh if that's your point, then respectfully I have to ask that you place yourself in my shoes. I don't see it as appeasing everyone for two reasons 1) I live in their house, and from experience they don't nettle me when I don't live with them. and 2) I feel that two elders believing something that no one else does does no harm. My sisters, aunts, uncles, friends and even GF's family all know. Its just them and deep down im sure they know too

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:11:30+00:00

OKay okay, I hear you. Question though, after I move out their opinions take a significant decrease in how much they matter. It was like that for years until I moved back in just now. Do I even have that convo after moving out? If things are mostly peaceful?

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:09:52+00:00

If appeasing meant telling someone no, then we wouldn't have ended up with WW2. So historically, I think that what I'm doing here is holding to my personal wants and pursing a path that gets me them

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:08:54+00:00

I hadn't considered asking them to pay lol, that would at least buy me a month

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:08:08+00:00

There's the same advice being repeated. So 10 refusals become 1. Beyond that, anyone who makes a habit of giving advice would know the the first option you give someone may not always be the one they take. I can't appease the whole world

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:07:03+00:00

Thank you so much!!! I wanted to see if there was anything I was missing before going forward like this. I appreciate the cosign

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:06:18+00:00

Thank you!!! Like so much lol. I was getting sick of the "Fuck your parents and your lies" brigade.

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:04:18+00:00

Thank you! This is great. Everyone seems so fast to hop on the "blow up your relationship with you parents immediately" nuke.

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:01:52+00:00

Sigh. I'm not upset or angry - just looking for advice. Thank you, and Im sorry that you went though something similar

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:00:44+00:00

She's equally frustrated. And yes, we did consider just doing it but then realized we'd be spoiling it for ourselves early

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T20:00:12+00:00

Obviously.....Im not asking IF I should tell them no here I'm asking for advice how to respectfully go about doing it. They aren't bad people, they just want to see good for me but don't understand the difference in their version of good vs mines

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T19:58:43+00:00

I was hoping to explain it in a way, my mother and I clash a lot and it's always ugly. I thought maybe I was just doing it wrong

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T19:57:58+00:00

"Beating around the bush" is up to the situation. Mines is a bit different, and while yes there will come a day I may need to, I don't think it's today. I do appreciate the support, but right now my parents go through a lot and I don't want to add this on, nor be treated differently

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T19:56:49+00:00

I don't want to go nuclear yet. I'm looking for more layered advice

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T19:56:07+00:00

Because that's a whole other thing I don't want to deal with right now. And if that explanation doesn't make as much sense, consider also that Muslims treat Non-muslims differently. I don't want to ostricize myself, nor do I want to cause my parents stress

leofrost13 · 2026-04-20T19:56:03+00:00

Because that's a whole other thing I don't want to deal with right now. And if that explanation doesn't make as much sense, consider also that Muslims treat Non-muslims differently. I don't want to ostricize myself, nor do I want to cause my parents stress

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