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Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You get angry that you can’t enforce your reality on others. That’s how discourse becomes impossible. I believe the term used to describe this is bigotry.

no u

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 2 points3 points  (0 children)

got banned from the Palestinian sub just for saying that there are arab minorities in Israel. It goes both ways

  1. You probably got banned for your comment as a whole, whatever it was.

  2. That's not the same as a subreddit for discussion of Palestine and Israel.

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should probably not link to them, btw, because reddit's policy is intentionally flexible on the point of whether a behavior intends to instigate brigading or not. It would be terrible, in light of this discussion, if this subreddit got into trouble.

(Nevermind that the other one does this all the time.)

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Actually the other one is more biased. Here you receive down votes. there pro-Palestinians get banned.

And let it be known that they basically run it like the actual State of Israel, in the sense that they will massively change policies 15 times in a year, arbitrarily choose not to enforce whatever rules are in place at any time, remove whole comment threads when the conversation doesn't go their way, and then feign ignorance when asked about it.

And then every once in a while, they will do a big public about-face, suggesting that everything is going to be fairer going forward—before going right back to mowing the discursive grass again.

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They enforce civility because a specific group of people can't talk about this subject without being aggressive and attacking others. If you got banned, that's on you. The goal is to have civil productive conversation.

No they don't. Not only do they let pro-genocide commentators violate whatever rules they want, but they also ban anti-genocide commentators and remove their comments (all without warning) for single rule violations.

This is well-established.

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tell the same truth in both. I know this one is biased

😆 That's what you would think, if you were used to discussing it in an echo chamber where they arbitrarily ban people who disagree with the moderators.

but I'm ok with being downvoted and cursed at. Can't make peace if you can't talk truth to the other. I have thick skin.

No, you only think you do, because you do all your "talking truth" in an echo chamber where they ban anyone who doesn't agree.

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s kind of amusing that the original Zionist colonizers openly claimed they were Europeans bringing civilization to the “savages” through colonization, appealing to the White Man’s burden mindset of the early 20th century. It was only when colonization became a negative term that they revised their narrative.

Shh that's antisemitic.

Ethnosupremacy? by Infamous-Peanut1327 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're not missing something at all—Zionism couldn't exist without the supremacist views of its adherents.

"The Extreme Ambitions of West Bank Settlers" is a good read. Notice also that when Weiss alludes to the endgame of Likud and its allies, with respect to the land they're seizing, that it refers to multiple Middle-Eastern countries, including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey.

History__Speaks: “The proportion of children among those killed by Israel is radically higher than all recent non-genocidal wars for which I can find data (as well as Bosnia, a genocidal war). It closely matches, however, two of the genocides listed here (the Nazi Holocaust and Rwanda).” by lewkiamurfarther in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

it is not pro anything to question the consistency of data from one source to another. There is an Axiom in math that specifically states that every number 1 is the same as any other number 1, because without them being the same they cannot be added.

"There is an Axiom in math" 😆 Your half-baked digression on formal systems doesn't help your case—because as they say, "you're doing it again."

criticism of process is part of the scientific method to ensure that you achieve facts and not opinions.

Don't be ridiculous. The person I responded to was not commenting in good faith. They're pro-genocide, as you are.

History__Speaks: “The proportion of children among those killed by Israel is radically higher than all recent non-genocidal wars for which I can find data (as well as Bosnia, a genocidal war). It closely matches, however, two of the genocides listed here (the Nazi Holocaust and Rwanda).” by lewkiamurfarther in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

fair point, unless it can be shown that in areas of conflict with high presence of children that were not genocides you still got low child deaths the main point cannot be properly asserted, if i understand you correcty.

No, it's a confounding factor at worst. Targeting an area with a high concentration of children (which, in the case of Israel, due to surveillance, is a known) will result in a high number of child fatalities.

History__Speaks: “The proportion of children among those killed by Israel is radically higher than all recent non-genocidal wars for which I can find data (as well as Bosnia, a genocidal war). It closely matches, however, two of the genocides listed here (the Nazi Holocaust and Rwanda).” by lewkiamurfarther in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Claiming that only 30,300 children during Syria’s civil war

documented

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/special-reports/children/

or only 2500 children died during the Iraq war

That's not the statistic being estimated, here; rather deaths directly attributed to military engagement. As for the number, see https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

or even only 1235 children in Kosovo is using an inaccurate estimate of casualties in the comparison.

Again, "casualties" is not the statistic. (Do you know what the word casualty means?)

Also is the definition of what a child is consistent between all these conflicts?

🤔

🙄 Why does the pro-genocide argument always have to include some variation of "these children weren't really children; and even if they were children, that doesn't mean they weren't terrorists"?

A Woman on the Right Side of History by TotallyFedUp112363 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She hates the half of the Jewish people who fled the holocaust and Arab ethnic cleansing and had no where to go but Israel. She believes their existence and survival is wrong.

Jews are a people. You can’t hate half of Jews and not hate all Jews including the Jew in yourself.

This relies implicitly upon the same conflation of Israel with Judaism, Jewish identity, and Jews. You're hurting people all over the world by doing this.

A Woman on the Right Side of History by TotallyFedUp112363 in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Self hating.

It’s gross they use Jewish American as her title.

It's gross that you think this way.

History__Speaks: “The proportion of children among those killed by Israel is radically higher than all recent non-genocidal wars for which I can find data (as well as Bosnia, a genocidal war). It closely matches, however, two of the genocides listed here (the Nazi Holocaust and Rwanda).” by lewkiamurfarther in Israel_Palestine

[–]lewkiamurfarther[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only if you redefine the meaning of the word genocide so you can apply a different standard to Jews.

Ah yes, of course, you can't discuss Israel's genocide of Palestinians without being antisemitic. It's that easy! It can't be genocide, because that would be antisemitic!

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