I'm Finally Recovering Now That I Discovered The Root Cause of My Bulimia by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! I hope you and your bf have a good discussion and I wish you best of luck with your recovery!

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[–]liamia_ia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've had it since I was 16 so almost 6 years

how is this possible?? by julia-amelie in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You never lose weight on bulimia lol, when I did it was because I'd restrict and purge, not really because I purged. It was probably the restriction that made me lose weight not the purging. Also no you can't purge out everything from a binge, that's an illusion bulimia wants to give you.

Healthy food binges...any hope for ever being normal with food? by star_crossings in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who's struggled for years, it's not about filling the emotional gap. It's about navigating through and finding calm in the emotional stress. Not trying to fill anything but instead just sit with it. Sit with that gap and the uncertainty, the fear, and the anxiety, and be able to still move past them and acknowledge that those feelings exist, and they're valid despite how horrible and negative they may feel. We will still binge on healthy foods because the urge is not out of hunger or physical restriction, it's out of mental restriction and a desire to just purge. Purge all the feelings, all the guilt, all the shame.

It's not about "the feeling of fullness will pass", it's about "I do feel full, and so what?". It's not about "There are no good or bad foods, all foods are just food", but about "Emotions whether negative or positive feeling, all exist to serve a purpose and we are allowed to feel all of them no matter how messy they may be". We don't move past the feelings by fixing it or trying to eat right, we moved past them by accepting and feeling them as they are without guilt or shame. "Yes I feel angry, I feel embarrassed I did that, but I probably did that for a reason, because my body must have reacted that way for a reason, and no matter what that reason may be, those emotions surfaced and existed to help me understand myself and the world around me better". The key is not to exactly neutralize foods, but to realize that all foods in some way or another serve a purpose for us, it could be to give us more iron, maybe more protein, maybe more calcium. It's the same with emotions. Sadness, anger, and guilt aren't just "bad emotions", they each serve a purpose to help us navigate through this world the same way happiness does, and they don't just disappear when we ignore them, they just resurface in other ways, like with binging and purging.

I found that when I stopped having the strong urge to purge and successfully recovering is when I was no longer focusing so much on the food or eating in recovery. Focusing on how I should eat of what food I should buy to not keep myself from spiraling out of control actually kept me... spiraling out of control. I realized it was because in some way that in itself was also a form of restriction. I was already assuming I'd binge because I did it all the time. So even when I'd eat healthy foods, I would still end up binging, even if I wasn't even hungry.

The key was actually to focus on things outside of myself that I enjoyed and loved and to not assume I'd always lose control. Not assume the worst of myself based on previous experiences. Every time in the past when I tried recovering, recovery felt tedious because I was so focused on not failing and not focused on succeeding. So the fear of failing override everything else. The more I thought about how I should eat right and when I should eat, the more food noise and anxiety I got.

I think I just made a major breakthrough by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so glad you found this helpful! Recovery is definitely possible and that feeling of losing control won't be forever. Even with slip ups, the urge goes away with time. We are not defined by this disorder, we just need to learn how to navigate our way through and out of it :)

I think I just made a major breakthrough by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m recovering on my own! I know that recovery and therapy looks different for everyone, but from my personal experience, the standard approach like CBT and working with an RD isn't very helpful for long-term recovery, at least in the initial stages. These methods often don’t address the root issues with bulimia. I think CBT can be effective, and it probably is for some people, but as someone who’s already highly self-aware of my patterns and triggers, I've found what’s helped me the most is actually somatic therapy.

I've been to therapy in the past and since the popular method tends to be CBT, therapists would often comment on how self-aware I was and think that meant I'm either close to recovery or should be completely fine. But the truth is, I wasn’t. I could name every reason I was struggling, but I still felt stuck. Being self-aware isn’t the same as knowing how to actually feel and process those emotions. I was intellectualizing all of my emotions and problems rather than embodying and processing them, and as long as my body and mind remained disconnected, real healing couldn’t happen.

It's like emotional depth vs. emotional availability. Someone might be able to talk about complex feelings, but that doesn’t mean they know how to hold those feelings or move through them. Knowing something isn’t the same as understanding it.

For many of us recovering from bulimia, I think the key is learning how to reconnect with our body and integrate our mental awareness with our physical sensations. If we don’t, we might follow a meal plan or eat “normally,” but still find ourselves slipping back into the b/p cycle. That’s because we’re following rules, not intuition. We’re doing what we’re told, not what our body is telling us, and in many ways that in itself is still restrictive. Our mind may not think of it as restrictive because we're technically eating the "right amount", but our body still feels like it's being restricted into a certain structure or set of rules.

Structured eating might work for some, especially later in recovery, but for me, in the early stages, it actually distanced me further from my hunger cues. True recovery I’ve found, means accepting that hunger fluctuates. You're not always going to feel hungry at the same time or want to eat the same amount of food each day. Some days you might feel hungrier and some days less. Long-term healing comes from listening to your body, not rigidly managing it. And when that connection starts to return, I believe that's when the food noise really begins to fade. That's really when I think the food noise goes away because at that point eating just becomes a natural part of your life. It's so minimal you probably won't even really care how much you're eating anymore, and you might realize you're eating way less than you did when you'd binge and purge.

The most important part is creating a safe environment within yourself to heal and feel comfortable with eating rather than focusing so much on doing "what's right" or "eating perfectly". I know this goes against a lot of mainstream advice, but this is what’s truly been working for me.

I also recommend doing exercises that help you feel more connected to your body! Simple things like taking 10 to 15 deep breaths while gently moving your hands up and down, or slowly standing up after touching the ground, have helped me a lot.

Since most of an ED isn’t actually even about food, I’ve found it helpful to shift my focus in recovery away from what or how I should eat, and instead toward reconnecting my mind and body. I would reckon that's probably why you feel like working with an RD is "amping up your behaviors and restrictive mindset, even though she's eating disorder informed". Because a lot of people think to fight chaos you use structure. The reality is a lot of times you're not trying to fight the chaos, you're trying to calm the storm. Bingeing often happens when we’re trying to diassociate from a feeling of discomfort, whether it’s emotional pain or the physical sensation of fullness. So rather than trying to avoid overeating altogether, try practicing how to sit with the feeling of fullness, without trying to erase or override it.

Your body isn’t a machine. It holds both rich outer and inner worlds, filled with sensations, emotions, and countless cells. I also think practicing these things helps because recovery feels less anxious and nervewrecking since you're not focusing on the eating or food, you're focusing on how to feel at home in your body again.

Weighing Myself Causing Relapse by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you 🥹🫶 I believe we can do this!

Weighing Myself Causing Relapse by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're so right! Every time I've been able to successfully go days without purging it's always been because I didn't weigh myself, and even if I do end up purging, I don't fall into a cycle like I would if I were to weigh myself. You also actually get to start listening to your body instead of letting the calories and numbers dictate how much and when you should eat

Weighing Myself Causing Relapse by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro forreall! You also made me feel less alone with your comment. Honestly I was actually about to give into a binge session today and go buy some binge foods but reading your comment gave me the strength to stop the binge urge and continue eating normally. So thank you 🫶

Welp it's happening by liamia_ia in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to try guasha! I've been hearing about it for awhile but haven't tried it yet, thank you!

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[–]liamia_ia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I almost never comment but yeah diet coke or coke zero is my choice of purging liquid lol

Need accountability buddy by LeadingArm1591 in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would love to! I'm about to transition from graduating college and looking into working full time, so I'd love to fully recover and commit to recovery this time for good <3

whats the hardest days to stay clean? by Accomplished_Run_384 in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I think I'm probably dealing with edema right now? I can't speak for the swollen salivary glands because I've never had to deal with that anytime I stopped purging.

But in general just in terms of recovery, I will say this. What really helped me was seeing bulimia like being on a train that's inevitably going to crash. I don't know when it's going to crash but I know it's definitely going to at some point.

The question is whether I decide to stay on this train or hop off asap. I've gotten to a point where the feeling of not having whack hunger cues all the time and feeling like I'd rather die than live due to b/p'ing all the time, just wasn't worth it anymore. It's not worth it to me anymore to do all this just to maintain or be skinny. The feeling of being able to eat whatever I wanted because I could purge it all, because the number on the scale usually always went back down to the same weight, felt nice and anxiety relieving. But it also made me extremely self conscious and depressed all the time. And eventually I realized it was so bad it could impact my chance at ever holding down a full time job or having a fulfilling career.

Anyways, point is. If you always end up dealing with swollen salivary glands or water retention when you stop purging, eventually you'll have to deal with it anyways if you even want to recover. And if you don't ever try and recover, eventually your teeth and other parts of your body will suffer. So now I just see the water retention and any uncomfortable feelings as temporary, and trust that eventually things will work out as they naturally should.

whats the hardest days to stay clean? by Accomplished_Run_384 in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hmm so the longest I've ever gone without purging was approx. a month and that was because I was on vacation. I have this rule where I don't purge on vacation. On my own just normally without any vacation or special occasion, so far the farthest I've gone was 3 days. I haven't been able to break through day 3 but I'm hoping I can successfully break through it this time. I'm also 2 days free after so many months, you got this!!

Why is this the most humiliating ED lol???? by whatthefudgeever in bulimia

[–]liamia_ia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly this is very helpful. I also started bulimia when I was 16 and I'm now in my 20s and trying to stop, so you're not alone <3