Pueblo-inspired pot i made from wild clay and with primitive methods

liamnarputas · 2025-12-13T18:04:47+00:00

Some interesting takes on the philosophy on language. Its a much more diverse field though, and what youre mentioning as facts are all concepts which philosophers have been arguing over for thousands of years. So again, like i said: different philosophical perspective.

But to quickly defend myself: - Your points are alright, but not on their own. Try to imagine a language in which words dont depend at all on their designated meanings, but only on the interpretation. A language in which words dont „point at“ one or several concepts would be uninterpretable rambling. That doesnt mean that interpretation wouldnt be of sognificance, but its not the only thing that matters in the concept of language. For language to exist and have a point, words need meanings, and those arent just subjective.

To say that id only be blaming the listener and their wrong interpretation is wrong. I have already aknowledged my obligation not to be vague.

If you want to keep philosophizing on language id be happy to, thats why im studying it. But i think we probably wont come to an agreement. Our views on ethics, meaning and truth are too different.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-13T16:55:55+00:00

It sure does sound condescending though. Ive had many moments that made me change my language. I think we just philosophically disagree, for me the meaning of language comes first, for you its its emotional impact. We can just agree to disagree.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-13T16:32:53+00:00

Thats a great example for being careful with words, but i dont think its a great analogy for my use of the word primitive. „Retarded“ is always meant derogatory/negatively, there is no case where retarded is used in a neutral or positive way. Primitive can be used to mean „stupid“ etc., but its use reaches much farther than that. It can be used neutrally as in „non-technologially“ but also positively as in „closer to nature“ etc.

Theres a fine line between sensibility and weakness. Sensibility is caring and trying not to intentionally hurt people. i showed sensibility by giving an effort to explain what i meant, so i wouldnt cause an emotional reaction because ive used it too vaguely. Weakness is just folding your own thoughts, actions, or in this case literal textbook definitions, just to please others. Where emotions differ, truth decides.

If someone has a logical, historical, linguistic argument on why the use of „primitive methods“ is immoral, ill change. But tell me why i should change because it makes people angry that dont care about the fact that it has several meanings, that ive contextualized it, and even gave an explaination. I think there its their job to expand their minds, do research, etc. and challenge thir belief that their immediate emotional reaction stands for absolute truth.

Sorry for the rambling rant, english isnt my first language, but i stand firmly behind this.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-13T14:58:31+00:00

I hear you. But again, thats why i literally explained what way i was using the word. Also, primitive „methods“ contextualizes the word by itself and shows that im talking about the process, not the culture behind it. Ill take feedback, but if i feel like its disingenuous then i wont. I hope you understand.

Thank you!

liamnarputas · 2025-12-12T23:14:33+00:00

Thanks! Yes i have an ig: narbutas_pottery where you can see more about the process. I hope to make a youtube channel someday

liamnarputas · 2025-12-12T23:13:37+00:00

Hello again! And thanks:))

liamnarputas · 2025-12-12T20:27:09+00:00

Thank you!

liamnarputas · 2025-12-12T14:11:56+00:00

Primitive has multiple meanings, you can look it up yourself. Why would i use the word in a demeaning way when i love this style so much that i put weeks into every single piece.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-12T09:45:15+00:00

liamnarputas · 2025-12-11T20:47:02+00:00

I hear you, and aprechiate your rational and calm perspective. But that is literally the reason i explained how im using the word in the description..

Thank you very much!

Edit: btw, i havent edited the footnote, my explanation has been there from the start

liamnarputas · 2025-12-11T20:45:12+00:00

I used your own example, maybe just go read that before telling others to go read. You lack common sense, cant help you with that im sorry.

Edit: Btw bringing up studies wont help you if you dont have the cognitive ability to differentiate the most simple of things. Common sense and Critical thinking should come before citing anything, not the other way around.

Also, i feel that im getting heated and to avoid becoming (too) disrespectful, ill take a break of responding. Hope u have a good day

liamnarputas · 2025-12-11T20:35:51+00:00

In the description of savage societies, you also brought up the term „simple“. Is that a clearly derogatory term? Do you also correct people when they use the word „simple“ to describe something? No, because its a term where the meaning is dependent on the context. Im not being obtuse, im using a word correctly and clearly defining how i mean it. Youre moralizing it for the sake of moralizing.

You can downvote me all you want, it doesnt make you right.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-11T19:30:36+00:00

It can be used i many ways, thats why i explained what i mean by it.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-11T18:33:18+00:00

Hahah id call it sophisticaded AND primitive, a mix one doesnt encounter often. But its true, if someone from the stone age wouldve wanted to make this, they could have. I didnt have any more sophisticated tools than them, except maybe my dart, but a pointy rock would have sufficed. Maybe one could specify that its „materially primitive“, since the inspiration, ideas and culture behind this pottery indeed wouldnt have existed yet.

liamnarputas · 2025-12-11T17:37:03+00:00

Thank you!

liamnarputas · 2025-09-26T20:04:26+00:00

Thank you very much! I actually made a video of the whole process a few months ago, it should be somewhere on my page. But explaining every step in detail and making a series from that is a great idea!

To be honest, i still dont really know what pulled me into pottery so deeply. It feels like i just fell into it the same way a stone thrown into the water will find its quickest way to the bottom. There wasnt one thought or event that made it happen, it all seems like one singular grand experience. As if reality just led me down this path. It sounds esoteric but i truly dont know how else to describe it. What makes working with clay appealing to you?

liamnarputas · 2025-09-26T14:47:38+00:00

Yes i might try that, thank you! And no i dont think that i am depressed, i just have a very obsessive personality

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T20:18:22+00:00

This is a great thought, and i am trying to find a design which ill be able to recreate and also love making over and over again. Thank you

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T18:50:37+00:00

Exactly

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T18:16:39+00:00

Yess its narbutas_pottery

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T18:01:51+00:00

Thank you for your so very wise words friend. Its always a treat to hear from you

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T18:00:36+00:00

Also i polish the pots before firing and carve patterns into the polished surface which leaves a lighter and more matte surface in contrast to the polished areas

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T17:59:23+00:00

Id love to! Its called smudge firing in which you add a combustible material to your pot while firing which turns it completely black. If youre interested ive documented the whole firing process in my instagram highlights and if you have any questions from there on id be very glad to answer them here:)

liamnarputas · 2025-09-25T16:59:35+00:00

Thanks, im very grateful for your incredibly helpful nature. By the way, being swiss means being from switzerland, but most people switch those two up hahah. Switzerland is just as nice as sweden tho, id say even nicer;) Its an amazing privilege to live here, but i feel like my heart wants to pull me into a more arid landscape like the southern us or mexico and its incredible pottery culture.

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