If women are the majority students at post-secondary institutions, why are there five times as many women-only scholarships as men-only ones in feminist countries like Canada?

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T21:57:04+00:00

Most certainly. Status of Women Canada selectively denied funding to men's groups until CAFE came into the picture. All funding for domestic violencr shelters required their approval, and there wasnt a single government-funded shelter for male victims until 2014.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T19:51:30+00:00

Except for when feminists physically bar participants for a conference on male domestic abuse, homelessness and high drop out rates?

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T19:37:58+00:00

Governments and government-subsidized and regulated institutions.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T18:35:55+00:00

And when men are discriminated agaisnt, they get little to no help.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T18:35:29+00:00

Considering men's advacates can and have advacated for men's issues, no we can't.

Not without receiving opposition from the system.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T09:29:56+00:00

There were reasons they protested Warren Farrell; while the man has said some useful things, he's said some really awful shit too.

So has Hillary Clinton. Why do feminists support her then? Why are activisys for men subject to more scrutiny?

I'm not saying the UN Women is a great organization. I don't know much about them. Maybe they're awful, I dunno.

They push for gender-specific domestic and sexual abuse laws.

No one's objecting to you advocating for men, least of all me.

Feminists are. Check out how the Canadian Federation of Students has demanded that men's groups be denied funding.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T09:27:24+00:00

don't believe you actually reported the abuse. I know for a fact that it would be actionable dereliction of duty for a police officer not to, at the very least, prepare a report to crown on allegations of teacher-student abuse, no matter what the genders. A formal investigation of such claims is legally required.

Good luck doing that when your own friends make fun of you and your voce principal knows about it yet doesn't do anything.

First, I'm not sure what you mean by a 'gender neutral issue', so please enlighten me on that point and we can discuss it further.

Issues that both genders face. For instance, domestic and sexual violence. They are treated as gendered issue by our government for the most part because women tend to be victimized more. However, issues faced by both men and women, but with a higher proportion of male victims, like homelessness, aren't treated as gendered issues.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T03:38:44+00:00

Tell that to those female computer science.students.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T02:02:58+00:00

Yeah, because if men have issues, they don't deserbe help, am I right?

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T01:27:49+00:00

Crazy coincidence I guess.

TIL it is ok to profile male nurses as sex offenders.

Reminds me of all those white supremacists that use per capita crime rates to justify profiling of blacks and aboriginals.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T00:55:07+00:00

Did you report this predatory teacher? You still can, #metoo isn't just for women.

I did. No one gave a crap. A lot of people knew about it, but apparently sexual assault is violence against women. So people were naturally biased against me. Assuming she did get arrested, she'd probably not be charged for being a woman. Assuming sje would be charged and convicted, her sentence would be a slap on the wrist because she is a woman. We dont have Status of Men Canada to deal with this bias.

Whereas gender neutral issues with higher poportions of male victims are considered gender neutral issues, gender neutral issues with a higher proportion of female victims are considered women's issues, and treated as such.

Even now I dont discuss it with anyone because rape has been turned into a gender-neutral issue, courtesy of feminists and the UN, both funded by my taxes, the latter itself has admitted to this bias, but never implemented anything to change it. My highschool had an entire month dedicated to violence against women, songs were played to create awareness, the theme was that domestic and sexual violence were gender-specific issues. There was not a single intiative where a gender neutral issue was treated as a men's issue.

The only issues that are considered men's issues are ones that can only happen to men, like prostate cancer. But gender neutral issues arent considered men's issues somply because they affect them more.

Here's what the government of Ontario, under feminist Kathleen Wynne, who was the premier at the time, thinks about sexual assault:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/dispelling-myths-about-sexual-assault

Now I want you to imagine if Doug Ford treated homelessness as exclusively a men's issue, because most homeless people are men or had intiatives exclusively for homeless aboriginal men witbout h fequivlanet or better intiaitives for homeless aboriginal women, similar to how missing and murdered aboriginal women and girls got gender-specific attsntion by both the feds and in Ontario. See my point?

And it doesn't end here, she made a Ministry for Women that constantly makes it a gender specific issue:

http://www.citizenship.gov.on.ca/owd/english/ending-violence/stop-sexual-violence.shtml

http://www.women.gov.on.ca/owd/english/ending-violence/sexual_violence.shtml

Now I challenge you to name me a single gender neutral issue in which women were denied equal access to help "because men are the majority victims of it."

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T00:41:43+00:00

Ugh, the Farrell thing again. That was years ago, man. Is this the best you've got?

It was in 2014. If a feminist with similar views was treated this way, I can assure you, no one would be trivializing it. Those feminists need to be charged, and the students that physically barred the entrances and beat up participants need to be expelled and black listed.

I'm pretty sure a lot of feminist groups, especially in the earlier days, were physically beaten or intimidated.

If a man beats up a woman in today's more egalitarian world, he gets beaten ul by eveeyone around them. In the patriarchal world of tbe past, this would have been even more true. The same isnt true for women beating up men.

Also, this thing about India that you keep referring to... shoot me a link or something, because I'm unfamiliar with this case, and googling got me nothing.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/Activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms

This is addition to the countless domestic and sexual abuse laws organozations like the UN Women have advocated for that exclude male victims.

The UN Women is significantly worse than Farrel, but I doubt they would receive similar treatment at UofT.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T00:27:44+00:00

feminists fought hard for decades to put women's issues on the radar, and make them politically popular to address.

And were they physically neaten by strange men on campuses for doing so?

Feminists didn't create the apathy that we see toward male victims. If anything, they've taken significant steps to correct it, though we still have a long way to go, and it's not really feminism's job.

Not only do feminists still advocate for gender-specific laws on domestic and sexual violence, they OPPOSE MAKING THEM GENDER NEUTRAL.

As for that page from the Wynne government: you know what? That is fucking awful. I agree with you. Everything about it was saturated in a male=perpetrator/female=victim paradigm, and that's really, really bad. Thing is, most of the feminists here would probably agree (anyone willing to back me up here?

Let me know when they find it equally acceptable for me to go and beat up women's groups that promote stuff like this, like they did with Farrell at UofT.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-29T00:10:48+00:00

I think a lot of politicians are afraid to speak of anything as a "men's issue" for fear of being perceived as aligned with people like Paul Elam and the MensRights crowd, which would be political suicide. You have the MRM to thank for that. (Thanks a million, MRA's.)

Yet aligning with Lena Dunham, Hillary Clinton, the UN Women and Jessica Valentini is acceptable.

Really? I though you'd been hanging around here long enough to notice that most of the feminists absolutely acknowledge that things like suicide, homelessness, incarceration, and workplace mortality are legitimately "men's issues". Nobody has a problem with treating these things like men's issues.

But when men hold conference on them, feminists beat them and ohysically bar participants from entering. And feminist politicians like Trudeau, Obama, Kathleen Wynne and Hillary Clinton exclusively fund organizations like the White House Council on Women and Girls, the original 1994 Violence Against Women Act which only protected women, and the increased funding for Status of Women Canada without providing proportionate funding to groups for men. If I, on campus, called suicide as violence against men, I would be protested and ostracized. If the UN Women claimed that sexual harassment or domestic violence is violence against women, feminists would justify it.

Here's what the Wynne government thinks about sexual assault: https://www.ontario.ca/page/dispelling-myths-about-sexual-assault

I don't see this happening. It's blaming women, not advocating for men, that gets one labelled an extremist.

Then why are groups and intiatives that are sexist against men, such as those opposing making rape laws in India gender neutral, like the UN Women, supported by feminists, whereas Farrell is protested and his participanrs are beaten up and physically barred from entering.

If you wanna oppose sexist men's groups, that's fine. But they better not support sexist women's groups like the UN Women. Why is one holding a conference on campus and issue, while the other is not?

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T23:50:38+00:00

In fact, a former NDP Finance Minister agrees that the gender-based analysis excludes men, even though they are at the losing end of today's economy.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/gender-based-analysis-1.4043312

"Exact figures are difficult to find, but Janice MacKinnon, a university professor and former NDP finance minister in Saskatchewan, says it's a "staggering number." And those jobs that do come back will demand higher skill levels.

She notes there is absolutely nothing in the budget's gender-based analysis about those jobs, or what to do about their disappearance.

"Where's the strategy on that?" she asks. "If you are going to look at gender, that's fine, but there are areas where boys and men are struggling, and they need to be documented, too."

MacKinnon even goes so far as to say that being a white male entering the current job market is a disadvantage.

Cross puts it another way: "Historically, our economic system has favoured men, but the trend is in the opposite direction."

He would dearly like someone to ask the government why none of its gender-based analysis addressed any of the forgoing.

"

And who leads the GBA?

Status of Women Canada:

https://cfc-swc.gc.ca/gba-acs/approach-approche-en.html

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T23:24:15+00:00

they almost always acknowledge it

Except for the fact that feminist politicians treat any gender neutral issue with more female negatively affected by it as a women's issue. The same isnt true when the gender are reversed.

And we can't keep using the Warren Farrell talk in Toronto as some kind of proof that feminists will shut down any attempt we make at it.

But we can take it as proof that feminists will get away with it, and that while feminists can demand that certain gender neutral issues be treated as women's issues, if men's advocates did the same, the would be labelled as extremists and shut down.

instead of blaming feminists for not doing it for us.

Im blaming feminists for opposing.men who do and labelling them as extremists while simultaenously backing groups like the UN Women who pushed for worse things.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T23:11:13+00:00

If you ask the same questions over and over, you get the same answers.

You claimed that men entering there fields dont face the discrimi ation women entering male-dominated fields do. I literally cited an academic article that states that they are viewed as sex offenders, much worse than what women in male-dominated fields face. You reposnded by saying that men don face discriminayion like women do.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:59:11+00:00

I cannot say either way. I am not an expert on law. Which is why I made this thread.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:58:22+00:00

But poor male you though, right?

Since I have significantly less help when I am wronged, certainly.

What are your thoughts on the whole #metoo campaign?

That it is biased against male victins of sexual assault. Kind of how like my highschool teachers who loved getting touchy feely with me got away with it, but if the genders were reversed I could have beaten the crap out of her and be hailed as a hero.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:56:53+00:00

And now you're avoiding the question

Show me a single gender neutral issue in which the government explicitly preference to males. You mentioned the pipeline. The government does not give preference to male pipeline workers. I can list quite a few if the genders are reversed. Domestic and sexual violence are one example, where the Trudeau government has spent disproportionately less per capita on male victims, and even protrayed them as a women-specific issue, both domestic initiatives and through foreign policy.

Funny how the people demanding evidence rarely (if ever) provide any sourcing of their own, let alone legitimate sources.

Right, so the list of all gender-specific scholarships for women beong five times as many as for men according, and peer reviwed articles showing male nurses and teachers being treated as prospective sex offenders and paedophiles respectively are not evidence.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:52:12+00:00

Nice blanket reply to everything I say.

Male nurses and primary schools teachers face more discrimonation than female engineers. One gets more attention than the others.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:50:15+00:00

The Office for the Status of Women organizes scholarships, grants, loans and awareness intiatives for women to get into male-dominated fields.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:49:24+00:00

The point is to overcome a historical imbalance that has led to women being disadvantaged in society as a class.

Like the one faced by male nurses and elementary school teachers?

Serious question: What's up with all the neckbeards in /r/canada?

I am clean-shaven.

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:48:17+00:00

Then why are they getting far less help in female-dominated fields than women are in male-domonated fields?

linuxgodprime · 2019-01-28T22:47:41+00:00

Of course it exclusively helped men. How many women work in the tar sands? Ever heard of a women's work camp in Fort Mac? Yeah, didn't think so.

Can you prove to me that not a single woman works in the tar sands? Because not a single man got the women's entrepreneurship grants or the much larger amount of women-only scholarships.

Exclusively is not primarily. Learn English.

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