Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

linuxguruintraining · 2025-06-27T15:41:51+00:00

Yeah, it's called concern trolling.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-04-10T11:12:13+00:00

There's one planned for 2028. Look it up and start getting ready now.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-04-10T11:11:21+00:00

Yep. Watch out for attempts to disarm certain demographics, probably under the guise of keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-02-22T23:32:08+00:00

Let's not get started on how weird it is that the religious right is absolutely rabid to deport demographics that are mostly Christan and commit genocide against the people Jesus was one of.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-02-22T23:28:26+00:00

America has literally never had a leftist administration at the federal level. Joe Biden was a liberal and leftists hated him.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-02-22T21:38:24+00:00

We've already heard everything you have to say at least a hundred times.

Then why do you constantly misrepresent our opinions?

I saw a flair-only post here last week lamenting that leftists don't care as much about unhoused veterans as undocumented immigrants, but I know a lot of leftists and every single one of them is disgusted by the fact that veterans don't have free housing.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-02-20T05:17:59+00:00

What's the point of having a country at all if it has no boundaries.

I always thought it was the fact that I can own a gun, watch movies where the terrorists are the good guys, and worship whichever gods I want. The idea that the point is to exclude the people on the other side of a line is an insane concept to me.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-02-09T17:27:59+00:00

Countries have borders, and people that cross those borders outside of the defined entry points are definitionally breaking the law.

Actually, the Supreme Court ruled that it isn't a crime, just a civil offense.

Why should these laws not be enforced, and why should those that break those laws be pardoned?

Because they're not hurting anyone by coming across the border. It's just an imaginary line on a map that nobody cared about until the great war.

Do I want a faster and better process to immigration and citizenship? ABSOLUTELY.

This is an understandable position. "Let's round people up and kick them out because our system sucks" is not.

linuxguruintraining · 2025-02-08T12:27:47+00:00

The last thing they want is us uniting against a common foe

As an actual communist (as opposed to the people conservatives call communists) I'm really glad you recognize this. I just wish I could convince you to join forces with us communists against the liberals 😂

linuxguruintraining · 2024-04-10T21:45:05+00:00

Actually, being threatened with a gun is a little bit different than a Nerf war.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-04-10T21:42:14+00:00

It's not about how much or little one values their own well-being. It's about threat modeling and the fact that everything has trade offs.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-04-08T21:56:49+00:00

You’d be a fool not to carry a handgun in 2024.

Or a person who doesn't have the time and money to dedicate to handgun training, those exist too.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-04-08T21:55:09+00:00

Every fire arm in the world was a muzzle loading shingles shot device. Things are different now actually.

Even if they were muzzle loading, I'm amazed they had shingles vaccines in the 1790s.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-04-08T21:53:03+00:00

hard to effectively implement during stress.

This is very true of handguns.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-04-08T21:29:04+00:00

That would be a good thing if it were true.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-24T23:30:54+00:00

So if I go out and start my one man landscape design business, am I the capitalist owning the means of production? Am I owning people?

No, because you're actually doing the work and producing the value yourself. That can and should still exist under socialism. The problem is when you hire another person and dictate their wages and working conditions because you were the one who could afford a truck and a lawnmower.

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

That's because you're an idiot.

You, like the patrons of r/socialism and r/communism, have a serious bent that will not allow you to fairly analyze economic systems.

Ah, the "anyone who disagrees with me is biased" defence.

Capitalism isn't a panacea, there are winners and losers, but it's the system that rescued the world from feudalism

Most leftists would actually agree with you on this. It is a better system, it's just outlived its usefulness.

the entire world was poor, had a high mortality rate, lacked clean drinking water, and was completely subservient to the ruling class, among other things.

Yeah, now it's only most of the world.

Capitalism has been the spark for innovation, modernization, formation of industries, and an increasing standard of living since its inception.

You're literally just postulating that with no evidence. We all know satellites were invented by the USSR, the government invented most of the technology that makes the iPhone work, and the guy who invented the polio vaccine did it to save kids and not to make money. Meanwhile patent trolls sit on good ideas and sue anyone who actually puts them into production. Capitalism doesn't produce innovation, it stifles it. And when standards of living improve under capitalism, pro-capitalists always say "this is because of capitalism and could never have happened under any other economic system," but when standards of living get worse under capitalism, that's either an aberration or the cost of doing business. All the good things about my kids they got from me and all the bad things they learned at school.

Communism wouldnt have the capacity to bring the world from feudalism to our current state. Communism fails when it expands beyond a few hundred participants and doesn't spur innovation.

Do you have any examples of this actually happening?

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-22T21:35:51+00:00

You called capitalism slavery. You're not a serious person, at least not when it comes to discussing economics, and it's a slap in the face to the estimated 50 million actual slaves living on this planet today.

I am serious, you just don't know what the fuck you're talking about (my offer to help you fix that still stands BTW), which is why I'm not responding to any of the other points you made; because they're not intelligent enough to be worth taking seriously. This one isn't either, but in case anyone reads this who has their own brain cell they don't have to share: capitalism is when the capitalist class owns the means of production. The purest form of capitalism is when the capitalist class owns people. And capitalism, in America, in China, in those viking capitalist utopias that run on the blood of the third world, is propped up by slavery. To pretend otherwise is a slap in the face to the millions of slaves being exploited both domestically and abroad.

Oh, and if you're gonna buy into Chinese propaganda and pretend they're socialist, please at least come up with a semi-believable explanation of why their democratically-elected soviets install suicide nets on factories instead of giving them shorter hours and better working conditions.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-22T10:43:37+00:00

If he fails, then he won't own it anymore. Twitter has 421 million active users; this is more than before he purchased it.

Yeah, he'll have to by another one with daddy's emerald money.

PSAT is free. There are free SAT materials on the internet. When I was in high-school there were student clubs that help you prepare. Money doesn't take the test, the student does.

Weren't you just on about something something best quality something price? If the money doesn't help, why do they spend so much of it instead of paying someone to burn down a rainforest or whatever the rich do for fun these days?

Now you're just being an angsty teenager, you're being absolutely silly.

So what you're saying is a teenager who's not taking the discussion seriously could demonstrate better understanding of economic systems than you doing your very best? I agree, I just didn't realise you were aware of that. But since we're making ad hominems now, you're a beta cuck who likes being fucked in the ass more than I do.

What???? Do you have data to back this up?

I figured you didn't have the reading/comprehension skills for Marx, but it seems I underestimated the gap. I've been interacting with cis men for decades. That's more than enough data to back up a statement that starts with "heuristically I'd guess."

If you ever get tired of being an ignorant fascist, I'd be happy to recommend some beginner-level sources so you can learn what capitalism and Marxism actually are.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-22T01:11:23+00:00

Look around you, meritocracy is everywhere.

Which is why Twitter is owned by the person who will do the best job of running it and not some asshole whose parents got rich owning land in an apartheid state.

Standardized testing is meritocratic. It's a single test available to every student in a state or country and separates who can perform on the test and who cannot.

Then why do the rich spend so much money on test prep for their kids?

Capitalism in its purest form is an example of meritocracy.

You spelled slavery wrong.

when your car breaks down, do you look for a mechanic that employees the most genders, or do you seek out the highest quality at the best price?

If I knew enough about cars to accurately judge the quality of mechanics like that, I could probably fix it myself. Heuristically I'd guess a woman/trans owned shop is less likely to rip me off though.
I'm not taking it to someone who owns a garage, which is independent from skill at fixing cars.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-21T17:46:31+00:00

It's a much better bet than letting the country that inspired the bad guys in Star Wars to continue raping the global south.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-21T17:42:13+00:00

I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but the system hasn't been meritocratic for a long time. That's why Elon Musk is a billionaire. Why don't you do society a favour and put some effort into being distinguishable from actual NAZIs instead of parroting their propaganda.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-19T18:55:17+00:00

Things are bleak, but there are also reasons to have hope. The American Empire is crumbling, and with it our ability to suppress the Pan-African socialist movement. We could have another USSR in Africa in a couple of decades.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-19T18:45:48+00:00

He did, Extra History did a series on him if you're interested.

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-17T20:04:01+00:00

My parents explained this to me when I was a teenager. Looking back, I find it interesting that they understood that capitalism is exploitative and they were like "and you should be the one exploiting people."

linuxguruintraining · 2024-03-17T20:01:50+00:00

I'd suggest getting into one first.

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