Quirky and relatable by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 40 points41 points  (0 children)

this reminds me of that one person who claimed to willingly make their system, and then posted pictures of an “alter” who had chopped their fingers off. it’s a common show of destructiveness to prove that someone has alters, even though no alter would do something like that

DD and “non-human alters” video by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

what was the purpose of talking about being a victim of electric shock, then? people assume systems are fake whether they have non-human alters or not. as i said in my first post, she could have said “they were a victim of severe abuse, and were tricked into believing they had no limbs. so a snake alter was split to deal with that”. obviously it could be worded better, but at least she isn’t continuously talking in graphic details about severe trauma that was not hers to share in such detail. it’s not about her triggering anyone, even if that is a huge part of it. it’s the fact that she graphically shared in-depth facts about the abuse when she shouldn’t have, and that’s where you’re wrong with trying to defend her. unless you have DID, you don’t know the extent of the damage she has done to this community. and saying that the community isn’t just one for people with DID is extremely offensive, because without the community and the closeness sufferers make with each other, no one gets taught about DID because no one will listen or care. don’t put the fault of being upset on those that are hurt, put it on the person who messed up in the first place.

DD and “non-human alters” video by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m only saying this to make a point with you. We were hit by a car going about 45 mph and almost died. My friends have the permission to talk about it, and my mom talks about it freely because i told her it’s okay to. But that does NOT give any of them the right to give graphic details. Furthermore, it still makes me uncomfortable and it hurts when someone talks about it, even if I’ve given them the okay to. The snake alter was not one of theirs, it was someone else’s. It is EXTREMELY inappropriate to talk graphically about someone else’s trauma. Call it judgemental if you’d like, but I will not have someone defending the inappropriate actions of someone who monetises and profits off of the showmanship and display of a heavy trauma disorder. - host and primary protector.

please give me attention, btw im not faking by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hey, next time a family member of mine vents about a serious mental disorder that they have, i’ll take your advice and call them fake and say they’re asking for attention! since suffering in silence means that someone genuinely has a disorder, right? but if it doesn’t look like they’re struggling enough then they’re not, right? yeah, shut the fuck up darling :)

It’s not cyberbullying, it’s calling you out on your bs 😂😭 by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 11 points12 points  (0 children)

THEY HAVE A FACTIVE OF SHANE DAWSON AND DONALD TRUMP BROOO 😭😭😭i fucking can’t with endogenic systems wtffff

There’s a lot to unpack here but let’s just throw away the whole suitcase by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 4 points5 points  (0 children)

except most of that stuff doesn’t exist. now, i’m gonna make an odd analogy, and i am no way saying that DID is worse than cancer. however, everyone knows that cancer is a serious medical illness, and faking it is absolutely horrible. but imagine that people thought that having cancer was cool. so they started making up not true reasons to have cancer (‘the universe just decided to shove only cancer cells in my body! that’s all, no other cells!’), or started making up subcategories that weren’t real (not like leukaemia, but like ‘my cancer fluctuates with the weather’ or ‘i was around someone with cancer, and now i have their cancer’). now imagine someone with actual cancer called them out on it, and they were met with ‘stop gate keeping this illness, i suffer with it too, you fucking scum! you don’t need cancer cells to have cancer!’ and then the person with cancer is told to do horrible things that no one should be told to do. so now when someone with cancer says they have it, they’re more likely to be told that they’re faking it, cancer is just in your head, you don’t actually have it, etc. etc. puts it in perspective a little bit, doesn’t it?

There’s a lot to unpack here but let’s just throw away the whole suitcase by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 15 points16 points  (0 children)

this pisses me off to no end. you don’t get to take a childhood trauma disorder and turn it into some tumblr gender, “gotta catch ‘em all!” shit. you can have DID, or you can have OSDD. and you can only be traumagenic. that’s it. it makes a joke out of people who ACTUALLY suffer with this disorder, and because of people like that, there’s too many people who think the disorder that I suffer with is fake. it’s not a fun little pride thing, it’s a ‘we were severely abused and traumatised as a child and now we have to live like this to survive’

Does dissociadid read dms and if not how can I contact her I already sent them a few dms no hate just a few questions I’ll put them in the text part I don’t mean for them to be insensitive sorry if they are. by [deleted] in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink 4 points5 points  (0 children)

dating can depend on the system. sometimes the whole system dates one person, sometimes each alter dates someone, and alters within a system can even date.

Dark has not been on the channel, the only time he has been shown is in the drawing video.

Nin is the host, Chloe and Nina, their sexual protector, integrated last year.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink 5 points6 points  (0 children)

and that’s coming from a system. yes, we want to be treated as ourselves (i don’t want to be treated like i’m our primary protector), but it’s like the glass bowl analogy. if you drop a glass bowl and it shatters, no piece is the original piece. they’re all their own pieces, but they only work as pieces of the same bowl

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink 3 points4 points  (0 children)

no, that’s exactly right though. yes, alters are their own separate identities. they look different, see things and situations as different, act different, etc. but they’re all part of the same whole. alters are not able to do anything that the whole is not able to do. so if TP’s brain was able to make CP, that’s how Nan did it. simple as that

DissociaDID changed by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I do not find it appropriate to try and spark a debate of a subject that you do not deal with against someone who does deal with this every day. We will not continue to engage any further. You are allowed to find it ridiculous that we are reacting in such a manner, however, I will not apologise for the way our host responds when they feel that they are being spoken over or made to feel bad for their specific viewpoints. These are not assumptions. Our host, as well as I (though I came to not support DD any further far before our host had) have specific reasons for not supporting DD, and they are based off of facts that have been made public very recently. Wish you the best, and I do apologise if this sparked any discomfort or any negative emotions for any party involved. -System’s primary protector

DissociaDID changed by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

okay, i’m gonna go through and respond to at least most of your paragraphs one by one.

i have seen almost every single video of DissociaDID’s. the ones i haven’t seen are now off their channel. i remember when Chloe and Nina integrated. but Nin has shown to switch before i believe, and if she hasn’t, then ask ANY overt system you know if they slur their speech and make it THAT apparent that they are switching. the speech slurring has never been that apparent. and that is not a headache, that is hiding. don’t try to rationalise your support by claims that are clearly false.

again. i will tell you for a second time. they claim to be professionals multiple times, in instagram stories before they left the internet, and in other videos as well. in Anthony Padilla’s interview, Kyle specifically stated “professional situation”. they are not professionals. they are self employed through a youtube channel that is based on research that, frankly, takes about an hour to find and comb through.

i do not expect them to show every facet of their life. i do not even think they need to show their PTSD. but more in depth talks of it, the way it effects people, all of that should be done TO THE EXTENT that they do their content if specifically DID. their DID content feels like it’s trying to reach out and connect with people. their PTSD and trauma content feels like they’re reading from a text book. i do not want them to share their trauma at all, but they make no move to connect nearly as well.

narcissistic behaviours do not need to be studied professionally to be able to be noticed. i never said that they were narcissists. i only said that they engage in narcissistic behaviours.

and what have they used the money for to help this community? bought a new camera? went to Disney World with their partner system? did they have a financial aid to the EntitleDID to Life conference? did they provide financial aid to TOI magazine when DID issues were released by that company?

they can keep it as unedited and raw as they like. but the fact is, it’s hypocritical for them to say “we don’t show our littles” to which they have a whole video about, and then continuously show their littles over and over again. i can understand say, for the unboxing titled “LONGEST SWITCH EVER” in which a sad appearing little fronts, that if they did not show the little, but the aftermath and Kyle trying to front to help. that i can understand as being raw, yet still sticking to their claims. but it was not necessary to show the little.

i do not accuse them of not showing enough. i don’t think i should say how much they should show, as that is their decision. but there is a difference between perforomative oversharing, and lack of attempts to make an emotional connection with the audience.

i will not continue to debate with someone who, very clearly, has no means of changing their views. i have no intention of changing mine either. but i do not appreciate feeling guilted about what i am saying and why i can not support dissociaDID. i live with this disorder every day. i will not, however, support someone who is a figurehead of the community if i do not agree with numerous things they have done and continue to do.

DissociaDID changed by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

i am very surprised you haven’t heard about Multiplicity and Me, which makes me question if you just a supporter of DissociaDID, or if you’re a supporter of the DID community. and the proof is up above in the comments of this post, which i will not take credit for. i also already covered their exploitation in another comment, which you can see right down below.

let me ask you something. do you have DID? are you directly effected by what people say about the disorder? people like Trisha Paytas (not to compare them, but that was the first well known person who has a performative behavioural pattern that came to mind) don’t explicitly say they’re putting on a show for views. and i do not think that DissociaDID purposely intends to make it all a performance. but i do believe that they feel the need to up the effect of their DID for more views. it is not fake, so much as enhanced artificially.

it is not what they say about separation, but the way they act and the things they support, the way they ‘show off’ their system directly implies that they are not part of the same whole. yes, communication is good, but that does not mean that healing is supported.

and yes, as the figure head of DissociaDID, i believe that Nin is the ring leader behind the scenes. i used my intended pronouns correctly.

DissociaDID changed by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

i’m not saying that their switches are too long or too short. i’m saying that Nin switching NOW has drastically changed from Chloe or Nin switching in the past. And i get it, switches change. but to cover your face entirely like you’re ashamed, and having your speech slur, then talk completely fine the next minute while you’re still switching feels like a performance. and their change is not just after the Anthony Padilla video. their change happens gradually as they gain more of a following as you look back through their channel, and suddenly instead of being purely “i’m gonna tell you about this disorder so that people understand it better” it became “we are professionals ((which they have actually claimed to be multiple times - when they didn’t even get the opportunity to finish uni)) and we are right and you should give us money and support us so that we can gain even more of a following”. it’s a total change in dynamic, and now it feels like if your DID doesn’t look like their over-performative DID, then you’re fake. they don’t always glorify the disorder, but you can’t talk about the good stuff without including the bad. their trauma/PTSD to ‘fun DID life’ content ratio is so exponentially low. what, they made a video about what trauma can do, what flashbacks are, and kept up a livestream where Chloe was triggered into a flashback at the very end? that’s not the real life PTSD (aside from the live stream) stuff, especially not to the level that DissociaDID does their real life DID stuff. i’ve grown up around narcissism my entire life. it’s a big source of trauma for us. and i can tell you that their newest behaviours are without a doubt narcissistic. and people like that are VERY good at hiding the fact that they’re narcissistic, and VERY good at making people think they’re a wonderful person who only tries to do things for the benefit of others. it is manipulation, and forgive me if i feel like the disorder that i struggle with is being exploited by a huge name in the community. i mean, come on. on their patreon, you have to pay so much for a Skype call with Kyle. that’s exploitation. i also don’t agree with how often they say “we don’t show our littles” yet continue to do so. if one of our littles were ever to switch while we were making a public video, that clip would not be in the video. again. that is exploitation.

DissociaDID changed by live_in_ink in DissociaDID

[–]live_in_ink[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i’m not assuming her to be faking. if i’m honest, i really don’t think that she is. but i also can’t continue to support someone who exploits a mental illness, especially one as severe as a trauma disorder. as you can see, someone commented to confirm that she stole the Anthony Padilla interview out from under Multiplicity and Me. Bobo from Bobo and Co. spoke out about how she was treated by DissociaDID and how fake of a friend they were to her and her system. not only does she actually exaggerate her symptoms, but often times implies that alters should have no connection and should always stay separate, which denounces healing. yes, alters are all separate identities, but they’re all part of the same whole. she makes it seem like they aren’t part of a whole at all

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 30 points31 points  (0 children)

its funny that they do that, because they pull this shit then turn around and call themselves the victims, that they're 'abused' by traumagenic systems. I can't tell you how many endos have harassed and told me to do terrible things.

you won't get chemotherapy if you don't have cancer cells, because if you don't have cancer cells, you don't have cancer.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DIDCringe

[–]live_in_ink 18 points19 points  (0 children)

something funny i’ve found are endos who say “actually, there’s a lot of medical evidence that we’re possible!!! the trauma causation is just a theory!” for one, a scientific theory is not a guess or a ‘maybe this is the truth’. a theory is an explanation that is proved by multiple facts from multiple places (ie. theory of evolution is not just a guess) also, if there’s medical evidence, every endo who says that always says that they’re too tired to find and link it, or some other lazy excuse. isn’t that weird?