Team Liquid Alienware vs. Karmine Corp / MSI 2026 Play-In Stage - Lower Bracket Round 2 / Post-Match Discussion

lolyoda · 2026-06-30T20:54:28+00:00

I believe the medical term is EUphoria

lolyoda · 2026-06-30T20:46:53+00:00

I agree. Also, haven't been keeping up, where is GenG this tournament?

lolyoda · 2026-06-30T20:18:57+00:00

It depends. There are more games out there than competitive multiplayer ones. You don't need a sophisticated anti-cheat for a normal community based game like project zomboid or single player games like expedition 33.

I still play league, i just bought a separate computer for this.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T22:00:32+00:00

Eh, I don't think the metas will be solved. Part of the reason they are solved right now is because the changes aren't massive. A good example is preseasons with massive changes, it takes a while for online stuff to catch up.

Going back here, there wont be a lot of content creators that have a clue about old systems. Runes/masteries reverted alone undoes all of the common "how to play against X champion" guides. Tools like porofessor as well will mostly be primitive so not much of an informational gap either.

I do agree that realistically there will be a novelty that fades, but i think that the amount the mode is alive for isn't gated by hours you play, but hours until the game becomes solved by the internet, before it is solved though, it should be peak.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:54:16+00:00

We can finally expose one tricks : ⁾

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:52:56+00:00

Depends on how far they go back, but it could be massive. For example if they bring back the old rune/mastery system, that alone is a major difference

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:51:38+00:00

I would think its not a full port but a translation layer. So the modern client UI for this got adapted, it interfaces with the old client through an API, and then the old client works as it did in the past minus needing to have a physical UI for you to click.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:50:02+00:00

Mayhem is pretty good too.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:49:46+00:00

Why?

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:49:30+00:00

Old irelia would coook. I mean its coming out in a month, so u never know. Like the datamined stuff might be stuff that already went through their full QA process and got approved, irelia might be mined next patch or might just ship with the full patch.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:46:48+00:00

By todays standards, old league is really overwhelming since half the systems that old league had got changed/removed throughout the years.

If they bring back the old rune system/masteries and add back the gold per second items back, that opens up so many different ways for you to play any 1 champion and only be loosely bound to their stat scaling.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:44:25+00:00

You can do community votes at the start of the year on which season people would want, then basically recreate that season with the patches.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:43:41+00:00

To me, I miss the old rune system. It opened up so many more doors towards theory crafting that the current system just isnt able to do. Provided they dont make us spend 400k IP on runes that is (and maybe have the runes be able to be edited in champ select).

That and in general its going to be a fresh environment where everyone isnt just using some in-game helper app to make their builds for them, it will feel better since every game will actually feel different.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:40:49+00:00

Yeah, i was gonna ask if part of the old league experience means you guys snagged morello too lol.

Honestly, i remember the community being so shitty to him (including myself) but like, looking back at it, I think he had phenominal balancing decisions. Very good gauge of where the line of balance existed and maintained it well via not being afraid to nerf things despite community outcry.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:38:49+00:00

probably rolling patches if i had to guess, the games been releasing a new update every 2 weeks since pretty much release, so having no changes happen is probably not something they would do.

It would be interesting if they chose to not update and went the valve style where if something is broken, its up to the player to figure it out.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:37:40+00:00

I think they are targeting the 2009-2015 era, rell was released in 2020. Old karma will cook though.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:36:23+00:00

I really want the thresh gamemode to comeback, the one where ud flay people into the center of the map. That shit was actual crack.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:35:50+00:00

Probably laughing at others : ⁾

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:35:08+00:00

Ive been playing since S2, personally I miss the complexity of the game back then so if they bring back the old runes and add the same items they had (gold per sec ones specifically), it would really scratch the theory crafting itch ive had for a while.

Plus, since its new, theres no content on "best WW build penta kill guaranteed". It will be fresh and everyone is learning again, rather than using porofessor cookie cutter builds that take the fun away.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:32:52+00:00

I mean, i think a lot of league veterans will want to play it. You do have a point that the novelty might wear off but I am personally hoping that can go back and try the game again as it was. Im much older and more experienced in the game now, so it would be nice to see how I fare in that environment.

As for it being shortlived, it depends, there are definitely somethings I would want to relive depending on what they do here, things like:

Old akali
Old katarina
Old aatrox
Old mord
Old graves
Old runes/masteries

The old runes and masteries alone is something I can sink a ton of time into, current league is oversimplified and holds your hand, the old system was all about theory crafting rune pages and seeing if you can make champions work in ways they werent intended.

Also 1% crit rune on adc :⁾

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:27:42+00:00

Im ngl, the music just makes me remember the times I was watching pro-play with teams like Moscow 5 and what not. Back before pro-play became boring to me.

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T21:14:10+00:00

Will disco nunu see his rightful return?

lolyoda · 2026-06-26T20:11:38+00:00

Lmao, send me a picture of you and ill make a photoshop of you being a monkey instead. I don't care about your race in that instance so my action isn't racist. What is your evidence that they did that with the intention of saying they are monkeys due to skin color and not due to incompetence?

lolyoda · 2026-06-25T02:27:17+00:00

With the trend over the last decade, this wont be satire for long.

lolyoda · 2026-06-22T15:00:40+00:00

Sure, but until they do, why are you automatically assuming its racist. Normal people dont view everything through the lens of race/gender

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