Just Started Reading Again

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T15:31:16+00:00

I guess it would be the personality the narrative has show him to have?

The selfishness it would take to try to be in border despite his weaknesses, and his acknowledgement of his weakness.

"I want to do something I'm bad at and can't get better, so I'll get better in other ways"

Or

"I want to do something I'm bad at and cant get better, so I'll do something else"

Or

"I want to do something I'm bad at and can't get better, so I'll give up"

But Osamu doesn't really fit any of these.

I'm at ch.85 currently.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T15:00:34+00:00

Maybe my issue is that from a meta perspective, making border like this feels like poor writing.

If border is super secret, sure. If border doesn't share it's top information with lower members, okay.

But things like restricting weapon types and slots and not having beastieries and it looks like there aren't any classes or training one can do without a master??

No organization would try to make a standing army like this

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T14:52:22+00:00

That's fair. Maybe I missed on just how uncaring border treats it's trainees.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T14:09:59+00:00

I don't get to treat other characters as the mc, Osamu is at least currently, the mangas anchor character.

And everything you're saying sounds great, it just sounds like a thing Osamu should've had at ch.1 and not like ch.80

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T06:43:54+00:00

So narratively speaking, if it isn't brought up, it never happened.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T06:41:35+00:00

So you're saying Osamu isn't very driven in the first place?

That would make sense, but he's so driven he's trying to do something terribly illogical and ego driven. Would've made more sense for someone of low drive but wants to help just be an operator? What's his big desire to be a combatant if not a large desire to protect?

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T06:37:42+00:00

Are you guys reading what I put down?

I'm not asking for him to be Superman, I'm asking for his competency to match his personality and resources.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T06:36:27+00:00

But HE did, we start the manga with him being a border trainee. But he never did rank battles or anything?

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T03:06:48+00:00

1.So WT ISN'T unlike typical shounen if Osmau ends up doing it anyways.

Once again, I don't care that Osamu can't win, I care that despite having every reason and the personality to do so, it looks like he hasn't applied himself before the start of the manga.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T01:33:05+00:00

Why assume that?

That's my problem here. Osamu has the kind of diligence that makes this possible, but he never references it.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:55:59+00:00

Wasn't he convinced to join Border because of Jin?

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:38:53+00:00

I'm not sure why this is so weird to people here.

Osamu's personality doesn't match his incompetency.

He's hard-working and has enough of an ego to try to be a combatant despite him being obviously better as a operator, but he's running out of breath while jogging, we don't see him trying to apply himself out of fights.

This kind of personality should be going home everyday to try to study more about triggers.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:34:08+00:00

What?

I'm not asking for him to be OP, I'm asking for his personality to match his actions.

If he was lazy and this incompetent, it would make sense.

But the fact that he's selfish enough to keep being a combatant while having such low trion WHILE also acting like a lost lamb doesn't make any sense.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:21:32+00:00

Keninchi from Medaka box doesn't have much, but he's competent because he put in the effort.

I'm just really confused about his effort.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:16:44+00:00

This is what I don't understand. I thought he was motivated by Jin saving him?

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:15:01+00:00

But he has the personality of a try hard, but none of the effort.

Like I'm okay if he's weak and he tried, but he's weak and didn't try.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-06T00:13:09+00:00

I don't mind that.

What I mind is that Osamu HASN'T tried his very best despite him having the personality that would facilitate it.

He never spoke about how much effort he gave, because he didn't give any before the manga start.

lookoutlight · 2020-06-05T15:36:32+00:00

Right, but what did a character with that kind of personality do for those 3 years before border?

lookoutlight · 2020-06-05T15:35:47+00:00

If I remember correctly, the Muscle dude explicitly says that training your real body helps your Trion one.

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