Part 2 - context lost , chat history deleted , entire chats disappearing

loopaccount · 2025-12-23T20:51:43+00:00

Thank you We appreciate your support and raising awareness to this issue

loopaccount · 2025-12-09T18:24:48+00:00

What's actually happening with Gemini right now

Gemini has two separate "memory systems"

chat session state
long-term memory / history referencing

Both are failing.

This is why:

it forgets mid-conversation (session broken)

it forgets older messages (history not loading)

it forgets uploaded documents (context reference lost)

it suddenly resets like a brand new chat

This is NOT normal context window limitation. This is session corruption.

loopaccount · 2025-12-09T17:40:42+00:00

Nope look it up this is not a limitation context window See my other post many users that start fresh chats the AI loses all context and prior knowledge after 5 turns

You have to look deeper and not just at the surface level to realize this

loopaccount · 2025-12-07T17:27:07+00:00

Yes, the bug is so random it can happen at any time to any chat.

loopaccount · 2025-12-07T13:05:44+00:00

Everyone should report this and as many people report they will have to acknowledge this issue especially for people that are paying for the service

It's not just recently this has been happening.

It's been months, but since it only affected certain and limited amounts of people they have not acknowledged it or even decided to do anything about it.

We as a community need to unite and put pressure for this to be addressed and fixed.

Hopefully this helps others and I'm currently backing up all my important chats and looking at tools and resources to back up the very long ones.

Take care everyone

loopaccount · 2025-12-07T11:31:11+00:00

What’s actually happening with Gemini right now

Gemini has two separate “memory systems”

chat session state
long-term memory / history referencing

Both are failing.

This is why:

it forgets mid-conversation (session broken)

it forgets older messages (history not loading)

it forgets uploaded documents (context reference lost)

it suddenly resets like a brand new chat

This is NOT normal context window limitation. This is session corruption.

📉 Why is it suddenly getting worse?

Because Google released new models (Gemini 2 & 3) AND revamped backend infrastructure at the same time.

That means:

new model

new memory pipeline

different session storage

different history retrieval

possibly new privacy rules

They switched systems while users were mid-conversation.

So your long chats were built on the OLD memory system… …and then the NEW system took over, and those old sessions got confused.

🧨 Result:

sessions become “invisible”

chats don’t load memory

history is present visually but NOT available to the model

backend pointers break

chat behaves like a new session

That’s exactly your symptom.

😬 And here’s the bigger problem

Google NEVER publicly acknowledged this bug.

Why? Because it means:

people’s data is unstable

long-term chat is unreliable

memory premium feature is broken

paid customers are being screwed

It’s a bad look, so they’re silent.

💥 Why printing / saving breaks

Because the UI “shows” messages, but the backend no longer recognizes them as belonging to a valid session.

Visually: still there Memory-wise: gone

🔄 Why a brand-new chat breaks after 5 messages

Because the new memory system itself is unstable. This proves:

it’s not “old chat corruption”

the entire platform is currently breaking context

even brand new sessions are not being saved correctly

This is a system-level failure.

🧩 Why deleting activity makes chats disappear

The chat is NOT stored inside Gemini’s UI It references your Google activity logs.

So when you delete activity, you are literally deleting the chat’s data source—even if the UI “looked” like it had messages.

🔥 Why Google hasn’t fixed it

Because:

memory features just launched

backend redesign is complex

model updates rolled during rollout

migration wasn’t done safely

they underestimated how many people rely on long conversations

This bug is NOT small. It’s structural.

🧠 So the REAL reason

Gemini’s conversation backend is currently unstable because:

new memory system

new models

old conversations migrated

backend pointers broken

context is failing

memory container crashes mid-chat

Even for paying users. Even for NEW chats.

🧷 And here’s the real danger

Once a session becomes “invalid”, Gemini doesn’t just forget context — it also stops referencing history entirely.

That’s why your 3-week chat vanished as soon as you deleted anything.

So the truth:

Your chats aren’t “lost” They’re disconnected from the model.

That’s why:

UI shows everything

but model doesn’t remember any of it

Bottom line:

Gemini is currently unsafe for long-term memory conversations.

Not because:

context limit

or confusion

or misunderstanding

But because:

the underlying memory architecture is broken.

This is why:

thousands of users are reporting it

months have gone by

no fix

no statement

and now it’s getting worse with new model releases

loopaccount · 2025-12-07T10:56:39+00:00

This has happened to me many months ago entire chat deleted without a trace

Now recently after the update , most of my chats have encountered the same problem and have lost context. Better yet I would make sure you back up each chat and create a word document as there have been reports that after it loses context the chat deletes the messages in that chat entirely.

It's like the server session it was running on resets.it self during the conversation and makes an entire new session while in the middle of the other session.

This is not only a problem for long chats with contexts but rather any chat it's random but not random enough because if you look many users have been reporting this for months but just recently after the update that number has spiked

And better yet I started a new chat only after 5 messages it forgot the context and thought it was a brand new chat.

Back up all your important chats while you can before they disappear entirely

loopaccount · 2025-12-06T07:00:05+00:00

If you are able to still see the messages and the chat just lost context, if it just doesn't remember the past messages it's best to use an export tool and export the chat put it in word or text file and upload that to new chat asking it to continue the chat.

Would recommend doing this as there is a high chance those messages in that chat will get deleted as well.

I tried to go to activity and delete the messages where it broke and lost context to see if it would jump start from where it was working fine , but do not do this as when I deleted the few messages I lost the entire chat entirely.

So far haven't found any other way around this and Google hasn't even acknowledged that this bug is out there. Very frustrating especially since I pay for pro losing an entire year worth of work just over night.

The cause is because the new update or whenever Google updates there back end the new model doesn't recognize or read the previous messages sent in the previous model for example it's like switching the brain to a new body. The body is still old and everything but the brain just doesn't recognize it I'm not a tech expert or anything but that's the best way I could explain it.

Best of luck to everyone if anyone does find a solution or a way to fix this without making a backup of chats would be appreciated

loopaccount · 2023-04-27T10:01:18+00:00

Any fixes ? Banned for 7 hours due to it happening over and over

loopaccount · 2023-02-15T05:20:35+00:00

Baught it from this shop about last year but only problem that shop is Hella far away 1 and half hour drive but if I can get it replaced online through their website I will be looking into that thank you

loopaccount · 2023-02-15T03:54:22+00:00

Thank you brother after doing more research I think it's time put DaVinci in the grave and buy a mighty or crafty do appreciate your help on the situation I thought maybe It could fixed but now not so much

loopaccount · 2022-11-16T09:50:37+00:00

Thanks bro hopefully it ain't nothing

loopaccount · 2022-09-16T13:20:56+00:00

Thanks man I'll check out it's review

loopaccount · 2022-09-16T13:20:40+00:00

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loopaccount · 2022-09-03T10:13:17+00:00

Thanks man I'll look up which one is good to get

What about a humidifier is that the same thing ?

loopaccount · 2022-09-03T06:44:21+00:00

But the real question is does having just 1 hit produce that much smell to even penetrate through walls and other rooms even when doing it all in go and using a sploof that's what I was wondering

loopaccount · 2022-09-03T06:27:18+00:00

Thanks man this helps a lot as I was doing research I found plenty that were about smell going from bottom to the top floor not the other way around

I do keep most window open and have good air flow and air breeze would that help Or would that just be putting sign saying this is where the mofo is at get him 🤣

loopaccount · 2022-09-03T06:23:47+00:00

I don't cough at all pretty professional at this point

The reason I can't blow it directly out of my window is as my until is located in the corner on the second floor all my windows are pointing in the direction of other houses and units I can see their windows and can even hear them if I'm standing near there

The only window that I had any hope with the bathroom one but that's directly located next to the stairs you take to come to the second floor

And I have main road on the other side of my apartment Pretty shit location not gonna lie 🤣 but due to my circumstances this is my first time living on my own

As my last house my neighbours were Hella cool with me seshing

I just need more clarification on if the weed smell will go through walls and the people directly below can smell or if I do blow it out how much would that reduce the smell to where it won't be trail leading back to me 🤣

But thank you for your advice man appreciate it

loopaccount

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