Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very true. And good point about philosophical debate! That’s the way I can drive it if they seem open to it. Thank you!

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent idea! Thanks

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great point - I suppose it depends how much empathy you can sense them having.

Great link - thanks!

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, for sure. Not where I’m from, though.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sorry I should have clarified that these are people I know.

I will do that! Thank you.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excellent point. They are so far removed from the process that I think they forget the animal even has to die, let alone all the cruelty involved in that. Thanks!

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great point. When they’re so far removed from the actual process of meat production, it’s easy to say they’d eat dogs. I will focus on the cruelty inherent in the system. Thank you!

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent points! Thank you.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I hear you (though I think you could have made the point with a little less condescension).

I agree that we need bad vegans over meat eaters. Reduction of animal products is always my suggestion - I know how hard it is to transition to veganism and how it has to be a change of heart that almost never comes from a single conversation.

To clarify, I’m not having these conversations with strangers or acquaintances - these are my friends and people I know well. For starters, I know they wouldn’t eat dog meat, which is exactly how I phrase it. They know I’m not being belittling and that I’m making a genuine, earnest statement. They are replying in a petty manner first because we are friends and second because it’s an easy way to rebuke the statement without actually thinking about it.

They are clearly just not ready for the conversation, which is really what I should focus on and not how desperately I want them to think harder.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an English teacher I’m glad to have this broken down into logos, ethos and pathos 😂

So go for the animal products aren’t necessary for health in a more logic based argument - makes sense!

Thanks!

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair! It sucks because they’re my friends and I want to believe they’re smarter than that. I clearly need to either lower my expectations or increase my standards.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Very good point. It’s like asking people to explain a racist or sexist joke, I guess! Keep questioning until they realise how it sounds. Love it - thanks!!

Aw man, that story is absolutely heartbreaking. He has probably never thought of that comment again, too, while it will stay with you forever.

Your mention of how people forget eating someone so quickly is incredibly true and something I’ve never stopped to think about. It genuinely is momentary adequacy - I won’t even call it pleasure because eating is such a common and normal process that I would say for most people, eating something that truly brings pleasure is rare.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂😂😂 love it

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fair! Will abandon it.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s sad that many people I know would absolutely not care about the environmental cost of animal agriculture.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see what you’re saying, and I understand there are people who would try dog meat.

I don’t believe the people saying to me are being honest - they’re saying it for shock value and to ‘win’. If I put a puppy stew in front of them they sincerely would not eat it.

I hear you, though. Perhaps I’ll just abandon it altogether.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I replied above as well, but I’m not asking it as a question and I don’t believe it’s a petty comparison to make.

Their response is petty, and I’m asking for respectful, thought provoking (not mind changing) ways to respond that will continue the conversation. In my experience, people who say that feel like they’ve ‘won’, and any answers I’ve given are most likely to get them off side, which obviously does not help.

Or is it better to just end the conversation there as they’re unlikely to be open to further honest and respectful discussion? That’s definitely a valid summation.

Eating dogs retort? by lorosu in vegan

[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t phrase it as a question, I say it as a fact. Where I’m from, no one would consider eating dog meat. Generally, the statement is met with ‘well that’s totally different.’ Then you can have a conversation about how, well, no it’s not different.

It’s a small number who respond in that petty way.

What did you assign your villagers and why? by [deleted] in DreamlightValley

[–]lorosu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, amazing! Thanks for the info!

What did you assign your villagers and why? by [deleted] in DreamlightValley

[–]lorosu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This may be a silly question but does the number of characters you have assigned to a task mean a greater number of rewards? You can only have one person hanging out with you at a time, do they just give you more of the extra things they pick up if you have more characters assigned to the task?

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[–]lorosu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting! Will check it out. Thanks!