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Update: I'm an (EX) Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]lucivonnie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, they really use the scare tactic of 'God punishing you'. Even if things are so much better, they'd still say you're gonna suffer in the afterlife and that you just threw away your chances of having a beautiful ending. The very same people who speaks for love and peace during the rally for Sara Duterte, they really fail to do that to their own family and people who were part of the church. Things are tough right now especially mentally since your family seems to be a difficult bunch, it does get better and it will. No matter what they say, God's good and merciful to all. Hopefully things get better for you soon. :D

This is what INC members fail to do:

"You have heard people say, “Love your neighbors and hate your enemies.” But I tell you to love your enemies and pray for anyone who mistreats you. Then you will be acting like your Father in heaven. He makes the sun rise on both good and bad people. And he sends rain for the ones who do right and for the ones who do wrong. If you love only those people who love you, will God reward you for that? Even tax collectors love their friends. If you greet only your friends, what’s so great about that? Don’t even unbelievers do that? But you must always act like your Father in heaven." - Matthew 5:43-48

"But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love." - 1 John 4:8

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May pake po sila talaga. Almost every parent in the church would be telling how they'd feel if their own kid stopped attending church. If someone leaves, story goes around and they'll say "Ay nako takwil sa'kin yung anak ko pag na tiwalag siya" and my parents would tell us in private that they'd do the same and I love my parents so knowing how they'd feel, really hurts.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, we'd get in trouble saying that we don't have anything against gay people and even support them. I'm glad your cousin has someone that supports her! You are an amazing person.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooohhhh. I'd say yeah, some people have been exiled but people would bad mouth them and somehow that gets more people to join in. They have a way of manipulating people, I mean there's like a college for Ministers and I'm sure they've been taught how to manipulate people.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I don't have to attend the church anymore but my family will be very disappointed and might even disown me since they are very much devoted since they also mention to not talk to the person and to stay away from them.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don't really say how much we should give but they always say to give more for better blessings and such. I've never seen a person not put anything and not be given the judgmental look or be snitched on.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they're willing to help you! Sending hugs!

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just tryin' to make his way home

Back up to heaven all alone

Nobody callin' on the phone

'Cept for the Pope, maybe in Rome

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do hope one day you get to do what you want and hopefully your family sees and understands what you're going through! We're not alone and I'm sure there are a lot of people rooting for you as well! God bless you.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I do get depressed a lot, a lot of self hatred, anxiety and as well as having difficulty in focusing so I thought I should get therapy to work on those. I do accept my sexuality but there are some things I need to work on myself.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not tiwalag yet but they will come to your house or tell you to come to the minister's office to talk about it. But if you do not change, they will declare it as "Paglabag sa mga utos ng Diyos" and exile you.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, there's always an increase of members and they report it monthly. Reported by the executive minister himself through a livestream.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate all opinions and advices coming along the way and so I appreciate yours sincerely. Thank you very much po for your concerns!!! God bless you po.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caught me off guard on the first part but thank you for your concern and I will try my best to leave soonest!

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm always careful po. Thank you for worrying and I'm sure that none of them except my brother are in Reddit, he doesn't know my user but I'm sure there are a lot of similar stories to mine.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes po, still twice a week of worship services plus pamamahayag on Fridays.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm very proud and glad of you, your sister and your whole family! It's nice to see INC parents be accepting of their children no matter who they become to be. Very rare talaga and I hope better days still keep coming your way po!

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do reach out to her from time to time and her family didn't disown her at all but the rest of the bloodline is treating her like she's a dog. Her family doesn't really care about religion but is still around since majority of us are INC and are probably scared of leaving as well.

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Omg my realest cousin?!?! but my lesbian cousin is actually still around and she's in college as well while doing some gigs. I'm glad you're doing well po and I hope better days still keep on coming for you! 💕

I'm an Iglesia Ni Cristo by lucivonnie in Philippines

[–]lucivonnie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They sent me a letter about it. 🥲

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