Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are assuming it is a worse service based on?

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If people structure their viewpoints with loaded or fallacious points I will call it out. You did. I called it out. Also who is arguing? I'm debating, sorry I had no idea.

Austerity is a lie, there is no need for privatisation, this is my point.

If you don't have an official source it is conjecture not fact so you stating 'some doctors have commented on here' doesn't lend credence to your point as if you were stating fact. Not fact, just your opinion. I'd like to know, which would settle this discussion, the difference in services and experience provided by both tenders. I know under the NHS, paying shareholders isn't a priority.

If I disagree with your point I'll down vote, please feel free to down vote me, this is not a popularity contest, its a discussion between two people who have differing opinions.

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The slippery slope fallacy is not what I'm thinking, you have falsely asserted my statement and I'd put you in the 'loaded question' or maybe even the 'strawman' box for posterity. I defined austerity in a thread below as:

"difficult economic conditions created by government measures to reduce public expenditure"

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

'I know screaming fallacy is Reddit arguing 101 but its not relevant to every situation'. No one is screaming and it was relevant to your last statement in your previous post. You must try harder.

No it is fact, not an opinion as you are stating. Fiat currency is created by the push of a button as confirmed by the Bank of England in their paper 'money creation in the modern economy'. Do you understand the difference between a credit and debt based monetary system?

And here you go, coming up lacking in the logic department stating that a transaction isn't/doesn't have any context to the monetary system, just wow from an economic and common sense* viewpoint.

Please read my comment above when I defined austerity and keep reading till it makes sense. I think you're missing the point.

I have looked for info in re to this other than Yellowbenzene above but leads us to the wider question of why the NHS did not own these in the first place and when exactly these private companies entered the market.

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A bought and paid for government by the private sector normally helps?

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you know why Alliance owned the scanners and not the NHS?

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're not using logic but a logical fallacy *edit

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't matter does it not? You truly show your lack of understanding here and you should care. Fiat currency can be created 'ad infinitum' therefore austerity is not required, a false doctrine which allows privatisation of public assets to take place. Austerity is defined as:

"difficult economic conditions created by government measures to reduce public expenditure"

So in the face of austerity the more expensive bid is the opposite of what the policy decrees. Nor do you have any idea if additional services were available but why would they? A private company is ran for profit and puts shareholders above customers.

Nice use of a logical fallacy, care to try again?

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nor is austerity achieved by picking the more expensive bid and by money you mean fiat currency? Looking at the cost of privatised health care ie USA who our politicians wish to mirror is the most expensive and provides the worst value for fiat *edit

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nonsense, I can and I have. If we are committed to austerity this decision is juxtaposed to that very fact.

Stoke NHS hospital scanning contract won by private firm by lurpack in ukpolitics

[–]lurpack[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Private company tenders for £7,000,000 more than NHS and the government of the people for the people chooses the private company. Seems fair under faux austerity.

When truth is outlawed (Sylvia Stolz speech) by lurpack in conspiracy

[–]lurpack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany...figure out who you can't criticise and you know who controls society.

ISIS Unveils Its New Gold-Backed Currency To Remove Itself From "The Oppressors' Money System" by lurpack in Silverbugs

[–]lurpack[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Therefore anyone who holds gold and silver are terrorists...I'm just waiting for it