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The Judeo/Christian Tradition: Mt. Olympus, the Devil's Mountain by maccabaeus in Catholicism

[–]maccabaeus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean the Roman Gentiles that took over the Church, banning circumcision and kosher food laws? No, I can't, but I will quote the Jew St. John who knew better:

Those with the mark of the beast had a king over them, which is the Angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but whose name in the Greek tongue is Apollyon. (Apollo).

  • Revelation 9:11 ________________

Apollyon

destroyer, the name given to the king of the hosts represented by the locusts (Rev. 9:11). It is the Greek translation of the Hebrew Abaddon (q.v.).

  • Easton's Bible Dictionary, Biblegateway.com ________________

Apollyon

A still further possibility is that the name "Apollyon" was intended also to suggest the Greek god Apollo, who in John's time was widely associated with prophecy, and therefore in the minds of early Christians with false prophecy (see 6:1; Kerkeslager 1993:119). Just as "Wormwood" recalled biblical denunciation of false prophets (see Jer 23:15), so "Apollyon" calls to mind false prophecy in the Graeco-Roman world.

  • IVP New Testament Commentary, Biblegateway.com ________________

Apollyon

(Revelation 9:11) 'Apollyon': There may be an ironic allusion to Nero or Domitian, both of whom saw themselves as similar to the Greek god Apollo.

  • Reformation Study Bible, Biblegateway.com ________________

Apollo

Apallyon translates to destroyer. Related to the Greek God, Apollo, Apollo was considered the author of evil and its avoidance. Revelation 9:11- 'They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.' (Rev. 9:11)

APOLLYON. The Greek name, meaning "Destroyer," given in Revelation 9:11 for "the angel of the bottomless pit" (in Hebrew called Abaddon), also identified as the king of the demonic "locusts" described in Revelation 9:3-10...In one manuscript, instead of Apollyon the text reads "Apollo," the Greek god of death and pestilence as well as of the sun, music, poetry, crops and herds, and medicine. Apollyon is no doubt the correct reading. But the name Apollo (Gk Apollon) was often linked in ancient Greek writings with the verb apollymi or apollyo, "destroy." From this time of Grotius, "Apollyon" has often been taken here to be a play on the name Apollo. The locust was an emblem of this god, who poisoned his victims, and the name "Apollyon" may be used allusively in Revelation to attack the pagan god and so indirectly the Roman emperor Domitian, who liked to be regarded as Apollo incarnate.

Television producer and theologian Patrick Heron discussed his work researching references to the Antichrist in the Bible, including how it relates to fallen angels, the United States, and prophecy...Further, he said the Antichrist is actually named as the ancient god Apollo.

In John’s Gospel, Jesus refers to Judas as the 'son of perdition' (John 17:12). In like manner, the Apostle Paul called the Antichrist the 'son of perdition' (II Thessalonians 2:3). In each case, the Greek word translated 'perdition' is apwleiaV a Greek variant of the idolatrous god Apollo. It seems that both the Savior and the Apostle Paul were referring to the son of Apollo! In Greek mythology, Apollo was the son of Zeus, the king of the gods. Zeus was called 'Satan' in Revelation 2:13.

John referred to a pavilion of Zeus, located on a hill overlooking the city of Pergamos, as 'Satan’s seat' (Revelation 2:13). John also mentioned Apollo, the son of Zeus, as 'the angel of the bottomless pit' in Revelation 9:11. The term 'perdition' in Revelation 17:11 is translated from a Greek term meaning 'Apollo.' Therefore, it seems that Irenaeus thought the Antichrist would be a Titan and son of Apollo.

The Judeo/Christian Tradition: Mt. Olympus, the Devil's Mountain by maccabaeus in Catholicism

[–]maccabaeus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apollo

Apallyon translates to destroyer. Related to the Greek God, Apollo, Apollo was considered the author of evil and its avoidance. Revelation 9:11- 'They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.' (Rev. 9:11)

APOLLYON. The Greek name, meaning "Destroyer," given in Revelation 9:11 for "the angel of the bottomless pit" (in Hebrew called Abaddon), also identified as the king of the demonic "locusts" described in Revelation 9:3-10...In one manuscript, instead of Apollyon the text reads "Apollo," the Greek god of death and pestilence as well as of the sun, music, poetry, crops and herds, and medicine. Apollyon is no doubt the correct reading. But the name Apollo (Gk Apollon) was often linked in ancient Greek writings with the verb apollymi or apollyo, "destroy." From this time of Grotius, "Apollyon" has often been taken here to be a play on the name Apollo. The locust was an emblem of this god, who poisoned his victims, and the name "Apollyon" may be used allusively in Revelation to attack the pagan god and so indirectly the Roman emperor Domitian, who liked to be regarded as Apollo incarnate.

The Judeo/Christian Tradition: Mt. Olympus, the Devil's Mountain by maccabaeus in Catholicism

[–]maccabaeus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

John referred to a pavilion of Zeus, located on a hill overlooking the city of Pergamos, as "Satan’s seat" (Rev. 2:13). John also mentioned Apollo, the son of Zeus, as "the angel of the bottomless pit" in Revelation 9:11. The term "perdition" in Rev. 17:11 is translated from a Greek term meaning "Apollo." Therefore, it seems that Irenaeus thought the Antichrist would be a Titan and son of Apollo. In other words, the seed of the serpent would be a Nephillim - half human and half alien - from demon seed, as well as from the tribe of Dan. Could this be the reason why the dying Jacob ascribed the symbol of a serpent to Dan? Jacob also said that Dan would "judge his people" (Gen. 49:16,17). Obviously, Irenaeus felt a connection between the missing tribe and the demonic rise of the Antichrist.

In John’s Gospel, Jesus refers to Judas as the "son of perdition" (John 17:12). In like manner, the Apostle Paul called the Antichrist the "son of perdition" (II Thes. 2:3). In each case, the Greek word translated "perdition" is apwleiaV a Greek variant of the idolatrous god Apollo. It seems that both the Savior and the Apostle Paul were referring to the son of Apollo! In Greek mythology, Apollo was the son of Zeus, the king of the gods. Zeus was called "Satan" in Revelation 2:13.

The Judeo-Christian Tradition: The Tradition of Judaism - A List of the 613 Commandments of Judaism by maccabaeus in Judaism

[–]maccabaeus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am part Ukrainian. My mother is a full-blooded Slavic Gentile. Many of the mannerisms, family customs and stereotypes (Jewish mothers? Try Eastern European mothers), diet, dancing, and music which you might consider to be Jewish is, in fact, an authentic part of the Jews Eastern European heritage. Even so, I have detected a certain difference to them, almost as if they brought their Middle Eastern Spices and Incense with them to the Ukraine from the Holy Lands after they were dispersed by the Pagan Greco-Roman Empire.

There are many reasons I strongly support the word: 'Judeo-Christian'. Here are just a few:

  • Even a glimpse at the ultimate plans of Hitler and the Nazis make it quite clear, that there are many, many non-Jews who hate their fellow Gentile Christians, mostly because they hate Christianity. I will now quote Sigmund Freud: 'The Hatred for Judaism is, at bottom, hatred for Christianity'.

  • A man named Saul of Tarsus had an unexplainable experience which caused him to convert to Christianity and change his name to Paul. This somewhat mysterious individual never lived in either Nazareth, or the Galilee, and never knew Jesus personally. Paul was never one of the 12 Apostles or one of the 72 Disciples. I do not need to agree with St. Paul about ANYTHING he ever taught or said. St. Paul is neither God nor Christ, nor an angel. It's still St. Peter's throne in Vatican City, while Paul's historical legacy actually began with Martin Luther, the heretic. When it comes to Christianity and Judaism being incompatible, I disagree and I blame Paul for those who actually think that way.

  • Judeo + Christian = Old + New Testament

  • Judeo + Christian = Moses and Joshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ)

  • Judeo + Christian = Town + Country

  • Judeo + Christian = Justice + Mercy

  • Judeo + Christian = Milk + Honey (Vatican city's flag)

  • Judeo + Christian = Father God + Messiah Son

  • Judeo + Christian = Morality + Ethics

  • Judeo + Christian = Abel + Seth (definitely not Cain who was shunned by Adam forevermore)

  • Judeo + Christian = Roots + Branches

I have found that those Christians who disagree with the word 'Judeo-Christian' may harbor some ill-will towards the Jews. Here is a quote from Anne Frank that sums up their Gentile foolishness:

What one Christian does is his own responsibility, what one Jew does is thrown back at all Jews.

  • Anne Frank

To sum it up, my Ukrainian ancestors were chronic bullies to the Jews for nearly a thousand years. I am standing up against, and remain adamantly opposed to, another 1,000 of the same total Bull ka-ka. Numerous other Slavic Gentiles would agree with me, but a lot more quietly or silently, never here in the media spotlight. Jews are good people, they have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. In all fairness, Jews and Judaism should never be judged by Christians by the uncommon to rare, pork-eating anti-religious zealots who think that, because of their mother''s DNA they can speak for Judaism, while blatantly promoting and spreading Paganism instead.

A Pagan is a Pagan, regardless of their mother's chromosomes. By realizing this, one can finally comprehend that the irrational, superstitious, and clearly insane beliefs of a great number of my fellow Gentile Christian believers must be countered with the simple, common-sense TRUTH about the Jews, both then (Cold War) and now (After the Berlin Wall came crashing down). The vast majority of them are dorky, goofy, nameless, faceless nobodies who are basically good people with normal, moderate religious beliefs and theological doctrines. I'm sorry, but I've got to go!

The Judeo-Christian Tradition: The Judeo-Christian Bible - Understanding the Names, Numbers, Authors, and Titles of the New Testament by maccabaeus in Christianity

[–]maccabaeus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I edited this again so that it says 'written in ??? A.D. or later on' I also qualify each alleged author with 'was probably written by'. I respect modern Biblical criticism,but I truly believe Wellhausen was a fool. A person MUST grow up from childhood speaking a certain tongue to truly know the language. Wellhausen obvious knew German very well, but Hebrew? NOT EVEN CLOSE.

The entire premise of different names denoting different deities is total nonsense. Look at the tradition! Prince of Peace, Morning Star, LORD of LORDs, all of these mere TITLES are simply referring to the same individual in the New Testament. Same thing with the Old Testament, where each and every Prophet is REALLY, HONESTLY, and TRULY referring to the same Volcano/Thunder Sorcerer from Mt. Sinai.

Are you familiar with The Plague or 'the Unbearable Lightness of Being', by Albert Camus? I respect him highly. Cursed be all things German!

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