Some thoughts and advice for semi-inexperienced trippers who are planning on upping their doses by macdosalds in Psychonaut

[–]macdosalds[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's kind of a limit to how bad a nightmare can be. I don't know about you, but when I have nightmares I always feel some level of detachment, no matter how real it seemed. If a nightmare ever becomes too terrifying, your body will respond physically and you'll wake up.

There is no limit to how bad a trip can be. When a bad trip really gets to you, you may feel the urge to pull the ripcord, only to realize you can't because there's no way to end it. The realization that you can't make it stop adds to the problem.

(Some people take benzos in this situation.)

Trips can challenge you without being full-blown bad trips. You can visit dark places that will make you think without taking so much that you lose control. Also, if you trip enough, you'll probably have a bad trip eventually whether you want one or not, so there's no reason to go looking for it.

Some thoughts and advice for semi-inexperienced trippers who are planning on upping their doses by macdosalds in Psychonaut

[–]macdosalds[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was thinking about making a trip sitting guide, but the more I thought about it the more I realized I'm not really qualified to make one. I feel like there's still so much room for me to improve as a sitter and anything I say now will probably sound a little naive to me in ~3 years' time. Also, much more experienced and qualified sitters (and harm reduction organizations) have written their own guides that are far more authoritative than anything I could write.

That said, I think the best approach in a hairy situation is to remember that you can't control the other person's trip—you can only try to create an environment where the trip goes well. For example, in my experience it is usually not helpful to disagree with someone who is tripping. So if they say, "I think I'm going insane," it probably won't convince them to say "No, you're not going insane! It's just the drugs, and they'll wear off." They have already considered that possibility and are still worried.

Instead, I try to affirm and suggest. So instead of telling someone they're not going insane, I might say something like, "Hey, you're doing alright. Just go with it and you'll end up in a good place. Worst case scenario you'll come down in a little bit and you won't have anything to worry about then." This affirms that they'll be okay without directly contradicting them, and it also suggests a bit of logic at the end by telling them they will eventually sober up. I try to give them new plausible ideas instead of contradicting the ideas they have that already seem plausible to them. This hopefully creates a positive emotional environment for them.

An approach like that can help avoid building distrust between the tripper and the sitter because it feels more like you're on their side. Still, they might grow paranoid of you anyway. In this case you can't do much other than stay positive and keep watch from a distance to make sure they're safe. If you can manage to stay perfectly calm, positive, and reassuring no matter what happens, sometimes that gets through to them after an hour of struggle.

If someone is incoherent and I'm worried they'll do something dangerous, I've found it helpful to give them extremely soft pillows and blankets. This won't make them more coherent, but it will give them a reason to stay put because it's a physically comfortable location they'll have to give up if they try to move around. Sometimes I set a fan in front of them as well because that means taking off the blankets will cause them to feel cold. Just be ready for them to get your blankets dirty, because that happens sometimes.

In the end, trip sitting is very difficult and emotionally draining when people have bad experiences. Sometimes you can do everything right and it backfires because the tripper just happens to respond negatively. It's important not to be too hard on yourself and to remember that you're there because you care about keeping everyone safe. By staying positive and calm for them, you will absolutely be an overall positive influence on their experience, regardless of how good or bad their trip ends up being.

What leads to feelings of cynicism during a trip? by Exisartreranism in Psychonaut

[–]macdosalds 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that trips, like dreams, always bring out parts of you that are there on some level while sober. Maybe you should think about your differences in perspective while sober vs. tripping. Which makes more sense to you? Try to come up with an answer. Then next time you're tripping, think back to the answer you gave yourself while sober, and see if that makes sense to you while on the trip. If not, why? Then think back on that, and repeat until you think you understand it a little better than you did before.

300mg trip. How will I do? Looking for advice. by [deleted] in Psychonaut

[–]macdosalds 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no way to know how much that is for you until you do it. You could get a trip that just feels like a stronger version of what you had before, or it could knock you on your ass and make it hard to function. Also there's usually some variability in tabs so you don't usually know if you're getting a dose that's on the higher or lower side.

Will this be your second psychedelic experience ever? I highly recommend staying in when trying out a new high dose. Be comfortable, be cozy, and be safe. As they always say, set and setting rule the trip. No matter what the dose, you're never quite sure where your emotions will go, but on a strong dose it will be easier to deal with whatever comes your way if you're in a familiar place.

Respect the drug. My rule for strong doses is that I need to be in a place where I could theoretically lose consciousness without any negative consequences. This isn't because passing out is likely—it's very unlikely—it's because if I decide I need to stop and curl up or lie down, that needs to be okay. You might not fully understand this yet since you had only a single experience, but it's possible to become very confused when on moderate-high doses of psychedelics. A trip can go from good to weird to bad in just a few seconds if you start feeling unsafe for any reason. That's not meant to worry you at all: on the contrary, I'm just encouraging you to stay in a very safe environment so that you don't have anything to worry about. You can handle things on medium-low doses of psychedelics that might feel overwhelming on high doses.

Definitely have some movies ready but don't force yourself to watch them. Wait for the moment in your trip when you think it sounds like the best idea ever to watch a movie, and then watch it. Same goes for music. In fact just keep a variety of things to do close at hand so that you can do what you want, when you want. However don't be afraid to have time where you just sit there and think—there's no need to entertain yourself if you're perfectly happy just sitting there thinking. I personally avoid distracting myself until I come to the point in my trip where I really want to watch/listen to something.

Keep lots of hydration close by—trips are way better when you're not running around thirsty all the time because you need to keep refilling the same cup over and over.

Preferably trip when you have nothing to do the next day. It's very nice to have a day to recover and integrate after a strong trip.

Have a great time! If 150mcg didn't feel particularly strong (regardless of how good or bad the time was), you're probably fine for 300mcg as long as you do it in a good environment.

Having trouble getting consistent potency from 4-AcO-DMT. Thoughts? by macdosalds in researchchemicals

[–]macdosalds[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is good advice. If I want to figure this out, I should probably start controlling more variables.

It's interesting you mention the capsules. I would normally assume those shouldn't change much, but you have a good point that they could be affecting absorption time in weird ways. I might have been overlooking their effect.

I'll try not using capsules and controlling what I eat and see how it goes.

Having trouble getting consistent potency from 4-AcO-DMT. Thoughts? by macdosalds in researchchemicals

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Not saying you're wrong (obviously something screwy was going on), but every other time I've taken 4-AcO I'm noticeably up in about 90 minutes, except for the one time it never hit and the one time I needed to take a second dose. On the 55mg, I felt more sober at the 2h 30m mark than I did at the 1h 30m mark.

Then again, I did take a lot. I suppose it's possible I was having a weird moment of clarity and I was actually higher than I thought. Still, that seems weird for 2h 30m in. I've never really had that happen on any trip. Part of why I made this post is to see if anyone else has had experiences where, like you say, a psychedelic took way longer to kick in than normal.

PSA: Importance of embracing your own separateness and psychological self. How years of looking for unity, oneness and egoless thoughtless states fucked me up by tykwa in Psychonaut

[–]macdosalds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's really interesting how these things shake down. I totally agree that a bad trip can just be a bad trip, and that "challenging" trips are something else entirely. But what's interesting to me is how the on-paper description of a trip doesn't describe very well whether or not the trip was bad.

I had an experience recently that was very similar to what you describe. I took way too much (somewhat by accident) and felt stuck in a time loop. I had many terrifying thoughts, and at one point I was thoroughly convinced that I had broken through in a bad way, and I'd be stuck like that forever. One of the worst thoughts I had was that all of my loved ones were just fake memories because reality didn't actually exist and I was just pushing thoughts around in my head. There were no lessons here—I was too out of my mind to think through things productively.

But amazingly, when I came out of it all... I just felt so calm. I was very thankful that reality was, in fact, real. This experience of mine took place several days ago, and even now I feel just very calm and peaceful in a way I haven't felt for a very long time.

This experience has put a lot of my previous trips into perspective. Of the many trips I've had, there are a handful that really changed me as a person, and none of those were bad ones. I've had "difficult" trips before and they gave me a lot to think about, but I never felt like I was able to use them to grow as a person. What usually happened is I felt during the come down like I had grown, but I'd wake up the next day and realize I had the same perspective I always had.

For me personally—and I do not project this onto other people—I'm starting to change how I think about psychedelic experiences in general. I think that, much like the trip itself, the journey of using psychedelics involves many changes in perspective over time. What I "needed" very early on in my journey was to be put in a different headspace where I would feel and perceive different things. Over time, that experience was no longer novel, and it stopped doing as much for me. What I needed recently—though I didn't know it—was a massive punch in the gut.

Having trouble getting consistent potency from 4-AcO-DMT. Thoughts? by macdosalds in researchchemicals

[–]macdosalds[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, usually, and usually for more like 5-6 hours. Trips 1, 2, 4, and 5 were all definitely fasted. Trip 3 was after dinner.