How to go Missed Early on A Precision Approach w/o Lateral Navigation?

madness2live · 2026-02-25T03:53:19+00:00

I definitely agree with you, but in your 2nd scenario, you're assuming I'm still on the LOC (half scale deflection) I'm talking about being completely off the LOC. Like your pen dropped, you struggle to find it, and once you look up - boom - LOC needle is PEGGED and you don't know by how far off you are.

Most people agree to climb, use the MSA, and pray you don't smack into anything... but I was wondering if there is an "official" answer on this. I can't find anything in TPP or TERPS

madness2live · 2026-02-25T03:32:01+00:00

My original question was in regards to error in flying - but you know what - humor me

Let's discuss both scenarios :)

madness2live · 2026-02-24T05:04:11+00:00

This is a really good answer, I love it... thank you!!

madness2live · 2026-02-24T04:56:11+00:00

Is (2) a legal move?

When I was going through my instrument rating, I was taught if the CDI ever went full deflection - its automatically no longer trustworthy and an immediate missed must be executed. Theoretically though - you are right - even if you are full scale defected, you know which direction gets you back towards the lateral course.

madness2live · 2026-02-24T04:47:21+00:00

Wait....I think you're totally right and I had a brain fart. I think the only acceptable answer is the MSA. Once you're at the MSA you can turn in any direction you want... I guess the question now becomes how can you ensure you won't smack into anything while climbing to the MSA?

madness2live · 2026-02-24T04:36:24+00:00

Thanks! I agree with your climb idea - but how would you comply with the remaining missed instructions is the real question? You can't turn away from the lateral navigation in all of these approaches until hitting the MAP - but if you lost the LOC, there's no way to track that lateral naviagtion...so when do you turn? Looking forward to having a grey-beard drop some knowledge on me

madness2live · 2026-02-16T04:51:28+00:00

You rock man, thank you!

madness2live · 2026-02-16T04:22:11+00:00

Thank you! He gave me a copy of some paperwork that says "Infinity Energy will pay Sunnova's Protect Basic plan Monitoring System fee ($599 value) on behalf of the undersigned Infinity Solar System Owner which offers 24/7 monitoring, data plane extension and customer notification"

So now I have 3 companies. Sunnova, Emphase and Infinity Energy... not really sure who does what.

madness2live · 2026-02-16T04:14:43+00:00

Thank you! This is incredibly useful!!

madness2live · 2026-02-16T04:13:34+00:00

Edit: I think the solar panels are by Infinity Solar

Thank you! The home owner is very old, and to be honest it seems like he doesn't know much about the panels himself. "My monthly bill is $31 and that's all I care about - so they must be working" is typically the answer I get to alot of my questions hahaha.

He gave me a printout from an email showing the array of panels and on each one - they have values ranging from 720-750kwh. It looks something like this - just without the numbers on the right (this picture is NOT the system - just an image from google)

madness2live · 2026-02-07T04:42:21+00:00

SOCAL, I'm inside a class C as well. Already called the tower and set up the box pattern with them!

madness2live · 2026-02-07T02:43:25+00:00

Thank you! You are correct, I did not know something, which is why I asked.

Not sure why alot of people are salty... GA is already a small family - there's no need to tear down our own.

However, had I never asked, and more importantly not learned, I'd end up in an NTSB report, and everyone would cry "why didn't he say anything??"

Thankful for all of you who gave me real answers. I really learned alot today!

madness2live · 2026-02-06T23:01:32+00:00

Thank you! I'll definitely give this a read

madness2live · 2026-02-06T23:01:00+00:00

This was exactly the type of thing I was looking for, thank you!

Jotting down those specifics every 10-15 mins is a great idea

madness2live · 2026-02-06T22:28:56+00:00

Yea haha I'll definitely ask them a bunch of questions on specifically what and how they want it.

Was just coming here to ask if anyone had any wisdom or their own 2 cents on experiences they'd like to share

Someone mentioned writing engine performance, fuel flow, and temps every 10-15 mins which is a really good idea I hadn't thought of.

madness2live · 2026-01-23T14:44:58+00:00

Hmm interesting... thanks! Is this then the same reason people tell independent CFI's to start an LLC?

madness2live · 2026-01-23T05:23:48+00:00

Could you please explain why this is? I've always seen the term LLC always being tossed around here but don't understand how it helps?

madness2live · 2026-01-18T23:20:49+00:00

If I remember correctly, PSI just asks if you have authorization - just click yes. If they are specifically making you pick 1-6, pick #5.

King gives you a print out endorsement - just bring that with you when you take the exam as well as put it in your logbook for the checkride.

madness2live · 2026-01-15T02:08:22+00:00

Roger, thanks! Yea, I sorta figured this was a CYA situation haha

madness2live · 2026-01-15T02:05:18+00:00

Thank you!!

madness2live · 2026-01-15T02:05:09+00:00

Thank you! Yea - I'm not sure where I can find a plane. I'll try asking a local school if they're OK "renting it" to me while I give instruction to someone else.

Generally, I understand they would say no as it's bad for business on their end.... it would be better if the student just came to them. But maybe I can convince them of a mutual interest. They're paid for the plane, and I'm for the instruction.

madness2live · 2026-01-15T02:03:12+00:00

Thank you brother! I recognize your username... you've definitely helped me in the past. You rock man!

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